In that case VM are offering 200Mbps but only in Ashford and Coventry
I'm glad BT are sorting themselves out and getting some decent 20MB+ speeds in places people might not be able to get VM
Indeed it's good to see that BT (Openreach) and VM seem to be competing on the broadband front.
Some of the exchanges announced for the FTTC rollout will in fact have FTTH installed, like at Ebbsfleet, but Openreach hasn't said what exchanges they are. Fibre is better in the longer term than VM's network because it can scale to speeds of 1Gbps whereas VM will run out of steam around the 400Mb mark.
once all the exchanges bt decide are worth upgrading will other isps be able to use the fibre to the cabinet ?
as i wouldn't mind Be/O2 doing a version of the 40mbps as there adsl2+ has been excellent
They're able to use it now on exchanges already enabled. It's best contacting BE to find out if they have any plans to launch/trial such a product in the near future.
BE/O2 currently have no plans to implement the FTTC service. They are currently putting a lot of resources into getting ADSL line bonding ready, not to mention the extensive investment in ADSL2+ kit to LLU exchanges. I doubt they will offer it in the near future.
BE are the best ISP i've ever had, but I will probably leave them when FTTC is RFS in this area (April 30th), and I will definitely not be ordering it from BT themselves.
Traffic shaping, and that stupid BRAS profiling they use? No thanks! I like the throughput at 100% of the sync rate, minus overheads of course.
Andrews and Arnold will be my choice of FTTC provider. Now if only I could find out which PCP I was connected to, as there are several new cabinets installed in this area, but I don't know if mines one of them.
BE/O2 currently have no plans to implement the FTTC service. They are currently putting a lot of resources into getting ADSL line bonding ready, not to mention the extensive investment in ADSL2+ kit to LLU exchanges. I doubt they will offer it in the near future.
BE are the best ISP i've ever had, but I will probably leave them when FTTC is RFS in this area (April 30th), and I will definitely not be ordering it from BT themselves.
Traffic shaping, and that stupid BRAS profiling they use? No thanks! I like the throughput at 100% of the sync rate, minus overheads of course.
Andrews and Arnold will be my choice of FTTC provider. Now if only I could find out which PCP I was connected to, as there are several new cabinets installed in this area, but I don't know if mines one of them.
Pop your house number and postcode in here (checker is on the left. click 'I'm not with BT') and see if comes back with a result for Infinity. If it doesn't, your PCP hasn't been upgraded.
Indeed it's good to see that BT (Openreach) and VM seem to be competing on the broadband front.
Some of the exchanges announced for the FTTC rollout will in fact have FTTH installed, like at Ebbsfleet, but Openreach hasn't said what exchanges they are. Fibre is better in the longer term than VM's network because it can scale to speeds of 1Gbps whereas VM will run out of steam around the 400Mb mark.
Don't know where you get that from, Virgin have already stated that they will be able to go all the way to 1 gig on the network. Ok so they won't for several years but they can do it.
I doubt many will have FTTH unless they are new customers with no spare "pairs" from the cabinet. It would cost too much when copper already availble.
Also don't forget Virgin are testing in Woolhampton (for rural customers not urban) with FTTH hanging the fibre from telegraph poles. They expect 50 meg BB plus HD TV etc from the same fibre. Best part of it is Virgin say they could connect up to a million extra homes without needing money from the government etc
Don't know where you get that from, Virgin have already stated that they will be able to go all the way to 1 gig on the network. Ok so they won't for several years but they can do it.
I doubt many will have FTTH unless they are new customers with no spare "pairs" from the cabinet. It would cost too much when copper already availble.
Also don't forget Virgin are testing in Woolhampton (for rural customers not urban) with FTTH hanging the fibre from telegraph poles. They expect 50 meg BB plus HD TV etc from the same fibre. Best part of it is Virgin say they could connect up to a million extra homes without needing money from the government etc
I got it from information from other FMs and knowing that the coax would struggle to take such high speeds. It's correct of course in theory that it could handle 1Gb, but the coax would need replacing with fibre because it would be too volatile to work efficiently.
Openreach will be installing FTTH in Milton Keynes (an area that could really do with it; many of the properties are miles from the exchange) and are surveying other areas to determine if it would be viable to rollout such a service (space in the ducts, amount of properties passed etc.).
I have read about Virgin's trial of FTTH; whether it will be successful is another question. The installation costs will be relatively high (but low in comparison to underground installs) and I suspect there's not that many people in Woolhampton that would be interested in such a service. Rural areas usually have a disproportionate amount of elderly people; who, in turn, will be less likely to be willing to try new technology.
I got it from information from other FMs and knowing that the coax would struggle to take such high speeds. It's correct of course in theory that it could handle 1Gb, but the coax would need replacing with fibre because it would be too volatile to work efficiently.
Its already been reported that Virgin will change connection to FTTH for 200 meg service so thats sorted.
Openreach will be installing FTTH in Milton Keynes (an area that could really do with it; many of the properties are miles from the exchange) and are surveying other areas to determine if it would be viable to rollout such a service (space in the ducts, amount of properties passed etc.).
But this is for a brownfield site, in other works a new housing estate not homes already built.
I have read about Virgin's trial of FTTH; whether it will be successful is another question. The installation costs will be relatively high (but low in comparison to underground installs) and I suspect there's not that many people in Woolhampton that would be interested in such a service. Rural areas usually have a disproportionate amount of elderly people; who, in turn, will be less likely to be willing to try new technology.
Come on, the rural areas have plenty of business's crying out for better broadband.
Also the idea that rural areas are full of old people and they wouldn't sign up for a cable service rather than have a satellite dish and slow broadband is plain wrong.
Lets be reasonable about this, BT Infinity are only looking to cover 90% of homes by 2017. If Virgin can offer better quicker and where BT arn't due for years if ever then they will sign up most people they can reach.
Its already been reported that Virgin will change connection to FTTH for 200 meg service so thats sorted.
But this is for a brownfield site, in other works a new housing estate not homes already built.
Come on, the rural areas have plenty of business's crying out for better broadband.
Also the idea that rural areas are full of old people and they wouldn't sign up for a cable service rather than have a satellite dish and slow broadband is plain wrong.
Lets be reasonable about this, BT Infinity are only looking to cover 90% of homes by 2017. If Virgin can offer better quicker and where BT arn't due for years if ever then they will sign up most people they can reach.
I like the way you state things without backing them up with hard facts. Reported where, figures showing rural areas have an even age distribution? I'd like to see such a thing.
Also with Virgin saying they'll be able to serve a few million homes at best with their FTTH product, it isn't going to increase coverage massively is it?
And the FTTH roll out in Milton Keynes will be to existing properties, which is well documented on the Openreach website.
My area is due to get FTTC in August, and I hadn't really considered getting it untill I realised that Option 2 (with BT) is the same price as BT total BB option 3, £24.99.
Would I be right in thinking one can upgrade for free? Providing they sign a new minimum contract?
What about if someone is taking a Package? Such as TV, phone and BB? (Which I have) could Infinity be taken with no extra charge? Anyone know?
Where can I find out if I am getting this? Just that theres alot of work going on in my street and down the road in terms of diffing stuff up! Thought maybe this was it?
Where can I find out if I am getting this? Just that theres alot of work going on in my street and down the road in terms of diffing stuff up! Thought maybe this was it?
How would it be installed though?!
The BT checker will give you a speed estimate if it's due to be installed soon.
If it is available to you, an Openreach engineer comes to your house and makes some changes to your master socket and installs the VDSL modem and connects your router to it.
Because the fibre is going to the cabinet, there is no need to dig roads up etc. because the existing cabling ducts will be used.
Quick question: I know my exchange is due to be activated by the end of this year for FTTC. When I put my postcode into the BT checker linked above, it tells me I'll be able to get BT Infinity by Autumn 2010. However, when I put my phone number in, BT Infinity doesn't appear.
In the areas where they're installing FTTC, are they running it to all cabinets? I'm a couple of miles from the telephone exchange, so I wonder if we're being omitted.
Quick question: I know my exchange is due to be activated by the end of this year for FTTC. When I put my postcode into the BT checker linked above, it tells me I'll be able to get BT Infinity by Autumn 2010. However, when I put my phone number in, BT Infinity doesn't appear.
In the areas where they're installing FTTC, are they running it to all cabinets? I'm a couple of miles from the telephone exchange, so I wonder if we're being omitted.
+1
I'm in exactly the same situation. 30th June is my live date but no sign of the new cabinets yet.
Looking at the speed test earlyer in the thread from current BT infinity customers, it looks like a very sizable increase in both up and download speed.
My only concern is once more people are using BT infinity, they will start imposing tighter and tighter restrictions via their so called fair usage poilicy.
As a long term customer of BT's upto 8meg BB I have suffered the throttleing and traffic shaping which, I wouldn't be prepared to accept on BT infinity should I upgrade. Having to sign a new long term contract is also a big turn off.
If the heavier usage users are such a small percentage as BT claim, surely it would be better to scrap the unlimited plan and define the bandwidth limits. Then the heavier users would be deterred, BT wouldn't have to traffic shape and the remaining users would have a much better service.
The unlimited label must bring ISP's a lot of buisness, they should be made to honour that claim instead of being allowed to get away with it in the smallprint.
Sorry if that was a bit ranty, it just does my nut.
On the infinity site I was going to be updated in Feb then March then it disappeared. Just out of frustration I applied for it and got it.My nearest cabinet wasn't the one being updated it's a old NTL one, my Bt cabinet is 500 metres away.3 roads down the hill.
Been on for 2 weeks now http://www.speedtest.net/result/788869985.png
Haha BT won't be rolling out its Infinity-Fibre to the Cabinet until way passed 2012 in my area near Central London,by then I will be sitting blissfully at my laptop with Virgin Broadband.
The service i've recieved from BT has been disappointing,when the contract is up I shall be in a new house not to far away and will use Virgin Media cable.
When I do the search using my phone number, it says its available now where in doing the search using postcode and house number just tells that it is coming soon... confusing!
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Please show me a house with this...
AFAIK, none of these house have been built yet.....
i overlook the hole in the ground they are going to be built on...
Springhead Park.
http://www.springheadpark.co.uk/index.php?public/springhead-park/fibre-to-the-home
http://tinypic.com/r/14w934g/5
Some of the exchanges announced for the FTTC rollout will in fact have FTTH installed, like at Ebbsfleet, but Openreach hasn't said what exchanges they are. Fibre is better in the longer term than VM's network because it can scale to speeds of 1Gbps whereas VM will run out of steam around the 400Mb mark.
as i wouldn't mind Be/O2 doing a version of the 40mbps as there adsl2+ has been excellent
BE are the best ISP i've ever had, but I will probably leave them when FTTC is RFS in this area (April 30th), and I will definitely not be ordering it from BT themselves.
Traffic shaping, and that stupid BRAS profiling they use? No thanks! I like the throughput at 100% of the sync rate, minus overheads of course.
Andrews and Arnold will be my choice of FTTC provider. Now if only I could find out which PCP I was connected to, as there are several new cabinets installed in this area, but I don't know if mines one of them.
Don't know where you get that from, Virgin have already stated that they will be able to go all the way to 1 gig on the network. Ok so they won't for several years but they can do it.
I doubt many will have FTTH unless they are new customers with no spare "pairs" from the cabinet. It would cost too much when copper already availble.
Also don't forget Virgin are testing in Woolhampton (for rural customers not urban) with FTTH hanging the fibre from telegraph poles. They expect 50 meg BB plus HD TV etc from the same fibre. Best part of it is Virgin say they could connect up to a million extra homes without needing money from the government etc
Openreach will be installing FTTH in Milton Keynes (an area that could really do with it; many of the properties are miles from the exchange) and are surveying other areas to determine if it would be viable to rollout such a service (space in the ducts, amount of properties passed etc.).
I have read about Virgin's trial of FTTH; whether it will be successful is another question. The installation costs will be relatively high (but low in comparison to underground installs) and I suspect there's not that many people in Woolhampton that would be interested in such a service. Rural areas usually have a disproportionate amount of elderly people; who, in turn, will be less likely to be willing to try new technology.
Its already been reported that Virgin will change connection to FTTH for 200 meg service so thats sorted.
But this is for a brownfield site, in other works a new housing estate not homes already built.
Come on, the rural areas have plenty of business's crying out for better broadband.
Also the idea that rural areas are full of old people and they wouldn't sign up for a cable service rather than have a satellite dish and slow broadband is plain wrong.
Lets be reasonable about this, BT Infinity are only looking to cover 90% of homes by 2017. If Virgin can offer better quicker and where BT arn't due for years if ever then they will sign up most people they can reach.
Also with Virgin saying they'll be able to serve a few million homes at best with their FTTH product, it isn't going to increase coverage massively is it?
And the FTTH roll out in Milton Keynes will be to existing properties, which is well documented on the Openreach website.
Ahh thats not Ebsfleet, the 7500 homes due to be built there have not started yet.
Those flats are build on an old industrial area, some distance away.
interesting though..
Would I be right in thinking one can upgrade for free? Providing they sign a new minimum contract?
What about if someone is taking a Package? Such as TV, phone and BB? (Which I have) could Infinity be taken with no extra charge? Anyone know?
How would it be installed though?!
If it is available to you, an Openreach engineer comes to your house and makes some changes to your master socket and installs the VDSL modem and connects your router to it.
Because the fibre is going to the cabinet, there is no need to dig roads up etc. because the existing cabling ducts will be used.
In the areas where they're installing FTTC, are they running it to all cabinets? I'm a couple of miles from the telephone exchange, so I wonder if we're being omitted.
I'm in exactly the same situation. 30th June is my live date but no sign of the new cabinets yet.
Looking at the speed test earlyer in the thread from current BT infinity customers, it looks like a very sizable increase in both up and download speed.
My only concern is once more people are using BT infinity, they will start imposing tighter and tighter restrictions via their so called fair usage poilicy.
As a long term customer of BT's upto 8meg BB I have suffered the throttleing and traffic shaping which, I wouldn't be prepared to accept on BT infinity should I upgrade. Having to sign a new long term contract is also a big turn off.
If the heavier usage users are such a small percentage as BT claim, surely it would be better to scrap the unlimited plan and define the bandwidth limits. Then the heavier users would be deterred, BT wouldn't have to traffic shape and the remaining users would have a much better service.
The unlimited label must bring ISP's a lot of buisness, they should be made to honour that claim instead of being allowed to get away with it in the smallprint.
Sorry if that was a bit ranty, it just does my nut.
Been on for 2 weeks now
http://www.speedtest.net/result/788869985.png
galdana, would you mind running a pingtest? http://www.pingtest.net/
The service i've recieved from BT has been disappointing,when the contract is up I shall be in a new house not to far away and will use Virgin Media cable.