Pes 2017
ScousingScowler
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Anyone else looking forward to this?
I thought the last one was quite good, if they can fix the dodgy keepers for the next one I'll definitely be getting it.
PES 2017
I thought the last one was quite good, if they can fix the dodgy keepers for the next one I'll definitely be getting it.
PES 2017
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I don't like the shooting on Fifa and the slight sloppiness of PES makes it feel less clinical. They should reduce the scripting on both though,
So as long as its competent, day 1 PES purchase for me.
2016 was a joke with the refs as they never whistled for free kicks.
However . . . . the level of 'gaming' that the AI engages in is really frustrating, even on single player. I'll start up Master League on one day and will be winning matches at a stroll, the next day i'll turn it on and I can't even score against bottom of the table sides. There's no logic to it - often when I start losing i'll just reset the machine and low and behold i'll destroy them the next time round.
Also the lack of free kicks is ridiculous. The refs don't blow up for anything!
I have to agree, it just didn't seem to flow like I thought it would defo fifa for me this year
I prefer the 'clunky' gameplay in PES over Fifa, the players in PES feel heavy and realistic whilst the ones in Fifa feel too light as if they are ballerinas on skates.
I also like the way the players in PES feel different to one another and more like their real life counterparts. In Fifa all the fast players feel the same and all the tall players feel the same, it's like they have used different heads for the same bodies.
I can't say I disagree with what you say there about FIFA, but its ballerinas over robots for me haha. One thing I did really like about PES is that the pitch felt the right size, the players have room but not too much space, it was just right. FIFA pitch seems too big.
I do prefer the game modes on FIFA tho so that clinches it.
Goalkeepers look much improved. Seems like you're going to to have to work to beat them. And some nice new physics on the ball.
Things it does better than FIFA:
- Your defenders actually DEFEND! I've never been a fan of FIFA's "tactical defending" nonsense; great idea, but as far as I'm concerned it's four years on and it still doesn't work. Far too common for the AI or another player to dance their way through your defence while they stand and look on. Great to see PES actually has a proper defensive system in place. Slide tackles are nice and meaty as well
- Crosses actually form a useful part of attacking play and you can indeed score from them more than once in a blue moon
- Graphically superb
Things it doesn't:
- It is too slow and sluggish. Not a fan of the input lag which is far more pronounced than FIFA
- The same applies to replays, menu system etc. Konami will never get the hang of it.
- Attacking gameplay needs a lot of work. I was setting my teams to all-out attack and still only having three players in the top third of the pitch
- Goalkeepers are absolutely awful. I beat Czech with two shots from outside the box (not finesse shots either), and two of the three goals I conceded over the three games were because my goalkeeper made a moronic decision EG. Flying out of his box, clattering my defender in the face and leaving an empty net for the attacker to score.
It's a solid effort but, as I've said before, PES needs to be exceptional in the gameplay department, rather than just good. This isn't because FIFA is exceptional - it isn't - but because FIFA does so many other things that PES just doesn't. If you want to play as "Man Red" rather than "Man United", then the gameplay needs to make you forget about the licensing. It did ten years ago, but just doesn't any more.
If you go to players to join attack you can pick about 4 that will carry on and it does make a noticeable difference, i used Barca and put the wider midfielders to join and got far more possession and shots than before. A big problem i thought they got rid of is when you send a player on a run for a through ball he stops sprinting just before he gets to the ball, you think that your perfectly planned attack will leave you 1 on 1 with the keeper then your player goes to the walking animation and a defender catches him.
I wonder what goes through the minds of these people when they test their game and stuff like this happens. I would be fascinated to hear the reasoning for this especially as it has always been marketed as realistic, real players put extra effort into getting on the end of a through ball not less.
Kits/files already up. It takes about a minute at most to import the kits/names which you can do in one huge lump for anybody that's interested in that side of stuff.
I'm a life long PES fan but I did make the switch for the version before last (FIFA 15). I was surprised by how decent the gameplay was and the game mode is just in a different league (pardon the pun). However I went back to PES for the '2016' version and it was easily the best football game i've ever played.