that's a big cop out, its an example of forgiving 24 for anything, which has added to its decline. yeah it can be forgiven for some timing errors etc but there is a limit, as with other aspects. there comes a point where 24 becomes unbelievable its its own universe. that's where its dangerously close to farce.
I'm sure if a few folk on a forum whine loud enough the producers will change *everything*.
Belcheck was an interesting character. Doesn't seem to have been much discussion of him and yet he's very unusual when you think about it. Introduced right at the beginning and there right to the end. We don't get told any of his back story but Jack trusts him absolutely. It's the first time Jack has had a partner - he usually works alone. Or people he's temporarily working with either turn out to be traitors or else they end up dead. He seems to be as good as Jack at kicking ass.
I thought he'd either get killed (coz he seemed expendable) or he'd turn out to have "another agenda" but neither of these happened. Would have been interesting to know his story - there must be a reason why Jack trusts him implicitly. He even trusts him to be alone with the President in a car at one point which is about the most trust Jack could ever have in another person.
Just binge watched the whole series over the past couple of days and enjoyed it immensely. Classic 24 silliness but a lot tighter, focused and action packed due to the reduced episode number which worked so much better.
It was a nice touch to adhere to 24 tradition and give Audrey the silent pip send-off
Would be nice to see one more go around to tie things up I suppose, but I won't hold my breath. It would be nice to see Jack finally get a happy ending but then with the sort of show it is, i equally wouldn't be surprised if they did finish it with him dying some kind of heroic death.
Belcheck was an interesting character. Doesn't seem to have been much discussion of him and yet he's very unusual when you think about it. Introduced right at the beginning and there right to the end. We don't get told any of his back story but Jack trusts him absolutely. It's the first time Jack has had a partner - he usually works alone. Or people he's temporarily working with either turn out to be traitors or else they end up dead. He seems to be as good as Jack at kicking ass.
I thought he'd either get killed (coz he seemed expendable) or he'd turn out to have "another agenda" but neither of these happened. Would have been interesting to know his story - there must be a reason why Jack trusts him implicitly. He even trusts him to be alone with the President in a car at one point which is about the most trust Jack could ever have in another person.
I LOVED Belcheck. No idea why I just did.
I was quite relieved there was no heel turn or death. It was the only defining this about the time jump that he was there at Jack's side until the very end.
Reading through these comments its got me wondering: Am I the only who thought Charles Logan was a horrendously shit character played by a shit actor?
I was quite relieved there was no heel turn or death. It was the only defining this about the time jump that he was there at Jack's side until the very end.
Reading through these comments its got me wondering: Am I the only who thought Charles Logan was a horrendously shit character played by a shit actor?
Take that kind of language back to the WWE thread!
Agreed with you on Belcheck, I thought he was a very interesting character - presumably from Jack's time in Serbia that was mentioned all the way back in season 1.
I disagree with your take on Logan though, Gregory Itzin was fantastic with his channelling of Tricky Dicky Nixon. It was almost refreshing in a way to have a baddie that was an old-fashioned slimy, snivelling villain rather than just the usual Middle Eastern / Russian / Chinese adversary for Jack.
Next season Jack will learn info from someone else in Russian prison about a terrorist attack in Moscow. He'll get free somehow and repay his debt to the Russians (really the only way to end his Russian problem is if they just pardon him).
Why did he kill those russian diplomats anyway? Were they dirty like this season's lot?
Why did he kill those russian diplomats anyway? Were they dirty like this season's lot?
The Russians killed (or at the very least, allowed to be killed by hit men they were working with) his main squeeze and a lot of his friends, and due to political shenanigans were going to get clean away with it. Jack went rogue, disavowed his allegiance to the US, stormed the Russian embassy and killed them all to death.
The Russians killed (or at the very least, allowed to be killed by hit men they were working with) his main squeeze and a lot of his friends, and due to political shenanigans were going to get clean away with it. Jack went rogue, disavowed his allegiance to the US, stormed the Russian embassy and killed them all to death.
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I did watch it originally, I just have a terrible memory for these things!
The Russians killed (or at the very least, allowed to be killed by hit men they were working with) his main squeeze and a lot of his friends, and due to political shenanigans were going to get clean away with it. Jack went rogue, disavowed his allegiance to the US, stormed the Russian embassy and killed them all to death.
I loved how they did that too, they didn't show it at all, they just had one tracking shot afterwards following one guy along the trail of destruction! Perfect!
I think it was episode 11 that had the president and one of his military advisors say "nuke-u-lar" about 3 or 4 times. Lol.
It happened a few times - and always from the same people. The worrying thing is that it was always characters who really ought to know how it's pronounced.
The even more worrying thing is that this might be the most "real" aspect of the show - the American nuclear command not knowing how to spell or say "Nuclear"...
The very worst of all is that Jack used to say it properly in s2, but mispronounces it in subsequent seasons.
...did someone tell him to start saying it wrong in some kind of dumbing down exercise?
Maybe Jack did it by accident (unlikely I know - everything Jack does is for a reason!), someone overheard him and thought that "new-kew-ler" was the correct pronunciation simply because they'd heard it from Jack?
If Jack Bauer told me that grass was pink and water was dry, I'd believe him!
Belcheck was an interesting character. Doesn't seem to have been much discussion of him and yet he's very unusual when you think about it. Introduced right at the beginning and there right to the end. We don't get told any of his back story but Jack trusts him absolutely. It's the first time Jack has had a partner - he usually works alone. Or people he's temporarily working with either turn out to be traitors or else they end up dead. He seems to be as good as Jack at kicking ass.
I thought he'd either get killed (coz he seemed expendable) or he'd turn out to have "another agenda" but neither of these happened. Would have been interesting to know his story - there must be a reason why Jack trusts him implicitly. He even trusts him to be alone with the President in a car at one point which is about the most trust Jack could ever have in another person.
I thought he was woefully underdeveloped and largely forgotten for most of the series, just what was the point of him?
I thought he was woefully underdeveloped and largely forgotten for most of the series, just what was the point of him?
Feel the same way. It seemed to me that he was wasted, and as has been mentioned previously in that Jack trusted him more than his own governments professionals.
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I'm sure if a few folk on a forum whine loud enough the producers will change *everything*.
I thought he'd either get killed (coz he seemed expendable) or he'd turn out to have "another agenda" but neither of these happened. Would have been interesting to know his story - there must be a reason why Jack trusts him implicitly. He even trusts him to be alone with the President in a car at one point which is about the most trust Jack could ever have in another person.
It was a nice touch to adhere to 24 tradition and give Audrey the silent pip send-off
Would be nice to see one more go around to tie things up I suppose, but I won't hold my breath. It would be nice to see Jack finally get a happy ending but then with the sort of show it is, i equally wouldn't be surprised if they did finish it with him dying some kind of heroic death.
I'm not asking them to change anything, I'd sooner they stop personally.
I LOVED Belcheck. No idea why I just did.
I was quite relieved there was no heel turn or death. It was the only defining this about the time jump that he was there at Jack's side until the very end.
Reading through these comments its got me wondering: Am I the only who thought Charles Logan was a horrendously shit character played by a shit actor?
I think so, yes.
Take that kind of language back to the WWE thread!
Agreed with you on Belcheck, I thought he was a very interesting character - presumably from Jack's time in Serbia that was mentioned all the way back in season 1.
I disagree with your take on Logan though, Gregory Itzin was fantastic with his channelling of Tricky Dicky Nixon. It was almost refreshing in a way to have a baddie that was an old-fashioned slimy, snivelling villain rather than just the usual Middle Eastern / Russian / Chinese adversary for Jack.
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Why did he kill those russian diplomats anyway? Were they dirty like this season's lot?
The Russians killed (or at the very least, allowed to be killed by hit men they were working with) his main squeeze and a lot of his friends, and due to political shenanigans were going to get clean away with it. Jack went rogue, disavowed his allegiance to the US, stormed the Russian embassy and killed them all to death.
And again, all it takes is a quick post on this forum and I'm pretty sure Fox will pull the plug.
The power is in your hands!
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I did watch it originally, I just have a terrible memory for these things!
I loved how they did that too, they didn't show it at all, they just had one tracking shot afterwards following one guy along the trail of destruction! Perfect!
It happened a few times - and always from the same people. The worrying thing is that it was always characters who really ought to know how it's pronounced.
The even more worrying thing is that this might be the most "real" aspect of the show - the American nuclear command not knowing how to spell or say "Nuclear"...
...did someone tell him to start saying it wrong in some kind of dumbing down exercise?
Maybe Jack did it by accident (unlikely I know - everything Jack does is for a reason!), someone overheard him and thought that "new-kew-ler" was the correct pronunciation simply because they'd heard it from Jack?
If Jack Bauer told me that grass was pink and water was dry, I'd believe him!
Maybe Americans complained that he wasn't pronouncing it properly, cuz I mean jeez, if George W says 'nuke-u-lar' then by golly that must be right.
I'm not trying to start a revolution lol. Its called expressing an opinion, I'd rarely expect anything to change from it.
Yvonne Strahovski ( Kate Morgan ) just did a live chat with fans and talked a little about 24, but mostly Chuck and Dexter.
A Conversation with Yvonne Strahovski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjISCMOnvvc
all done for charity so good on her
I thought he was woefully underdeveloped and largely forgotten for most of the series, just what was the point of him?
Feel the same way. It seemed to me that he was wasted, and as has been mentioned previously in that Jack trusted him more than his own governments professionals.
Perhaps in the next one? (He said hopefully
Oh yes it has!
It was never exclusive to a character death.
It was used at the end of Day 2 Day 6, and Redemption and of course LaD, even though no-one actually died.