I'm not convinced they're compatible although there's certainly been some sexual tension. But then there would be, stuck in a house for weeks. So it'll be interesting to see if it was just a drunk snog and a lustful convenience thing or if there's genuine romantic interest.
But Christopher, telling someone your breath stinks? Not very romantic as foreplay goes.
I'm not convinced they're compatible although there's certainly been some sexual tension. But then there would be, stuck in a house for weeks. So it'll be interesting to see if it was just a drunk snog and a lustful convenience thing or if there's genuine romantic interest.
But Christopher, telling someone your breath stinks? Not very romantic as foreplay goes.
It was 6:10 in the morning so not a drunken get together.
I feel the same way. If the whole forum is going to be outraged about Steve and Kim, then why all the fluffy stuff with these two?
Mark is quite well liked by a lot of the GBP and same for Christopher. Well not Christopher for me personally, I think he's been unnecessarily cutting at times with some of his comments but there's been a little bit of harmless flirting and teasing between the two of them since Matthew left. Contrast that with controlling Steven and Kimberly who seems to just obey his every wish. I know which two I'd prefer to watch. I'm actually really disappointed in Kim. I liked her a lot even when people were calling her kim-bot and cold, I saw her as just a rather reserved and guarded person. I honestly thought she had more about her than to allow Steven be so bossy.
What makes Steven and Kimberley awful viewing isn't because they are a couple, it's their awkward self obsessed and damaged personalities.
I like Christopher but don't particularly like Mark. But how Mark behaves is often a mirror of who he is spending time with. So perhaps being with Christopher will do him good.
I think we have known for a couple of weeks that Christopher "liked" Mark and I think they way they are getting closer to each other without people noticing is rather sweet.
I feel the same way. If the whole forum is going to be outraged about Steve and Kim, then why all the fluffy stuff with these two?
Neither Christopher nor Mark are scary control freaks nor are they created in a lab that had no idea how to program emotion.
Unlike He who shall not be named & the Kimbot, they are both widely liked. Not necessarily by the same people, but both are well liked. And relatively normal compared to the control freak and his willing victim/co-conspirator/faulty fembot.
Ok, look, I don't really get the outrage about Kim and Steve, nor Mark and Christopher. Was only pointing to some double standards in terms of the sex itself.
Ok, look, I don't really get the outrage about Kim and Steve, nor Mark and Christopher. Was only pointing to some double standards in terms of the sex itself.
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But there are no double standards. Steven and Kimberley have openly and very visibly had full penetrative sex in the house on multiple occasions. Mark and Christopher might have kissed. Not the same at all.
But there are no double standards. Steven and Kimberley have openly and very visibly had full penetrative sex in the house on multiple occasions. Mark and Christopher might have kissed. Not the same at all.
How sure can you be it was that! it might have been something else not penetrative. We need further proof. lol
I don't believe what I am typing..:o:D
But there are no double standards. Steven and Kimberley have openly and very visibly had full penetrative sex in the house on multiple occasions. Mark and Christopher might have kissed. Not the same at all.
Well we don't know, do we? However if found out to be true, I have a feeling it will all be brushed away as true love in some kind of fluffy way because they are liked.
If the act itself is disgusting, then what's the difference between the two, is what I'm asking?
But there are no double standards. Steven and Kimberley have openly and very visibly had full penetrative sex in the house on multiple occasions. Mark and Christopher might have kissed. Not the same at all.
They were getting abuse when they were barely even kissing,and lots of it.
The double standards strike again seemingly on this forum.............for around the 20th time this series;-)
How sure can you be it was that! it might have been something else not penetrative. We need further proof. lol
I don't believe what I am typing..:o:D
What do you think was happening when Steven climbed on top of Kim and banged up and down Then again Kim looked a bit perplexed herself so I suppose there is some doubt
Well we don't know, do we? However if found out to be true, I have a feeling it will all be brushed away as true love in some kind of fluffy way because they are liked.
If the act itself is disgusting, then what's the difference between the two, is what I'm asking?
I don't understand what you're saying. We didn't see any frantic hand or arse movements under the bed. In fact their bodies seemed far apart. So they're getting the benefit of the doubt from me. Just like other HMs who kissed under the covers have had the benefit of the doubt. It wasn't a big deal.
The difference with Kim and Steven, unlike all those other couples who've got away with an overnight fumble, is they made NO attempt to be discrete on not one but 3 occasions. Absolutely no attempt. In fact they seemed at best, to think "sod it" and at worst, to be actively doing it for airtime. And to cap it off, he openly discussed it next day.
Plus we're having their noxious toxic romance shoved down our throats now in every HL show. There's nothing unpleasant about Mark and Christopher's whatever-it-is.
For me, there's no comparison or double standard whatsoever.
I don't feel queasy at every hint of human contact...It's not the concept that's always the turn-off.
It's about who it involves - their dynamic, their behaviour, which determines how I feel about it.
There's a lot wrong with the Steven/Kimberly 'relationship' and there has been from day one. I knew when I heard the '119 countries' boast that Steven was gonna be cringeworthy (or "cringe")...I've had my head in my hands ever since. What makes it worse is Kim's lack of awareness/reaction/reciprocation. So when they end up having sex, that it all kinds of eww...I haven't 'believed' in them, and I certainly don't now.
Anybody else can kiss - and I can evaluate them separately. It is not the kissing. It's not even the sex, necessarily...Though sex is obviously more serious than kissing or so my wife says.
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But Christopher, telling someone your breath stinks? Not very romantic as foreplay goes.
I don't, it's no better than Kim and Steven. I don't think they are cute at all. I thought that they were both gay?
It was 6:10 in the morning so not a drunken get together.
And the breath thing - it is so Christopher:D
He is rather strange but if it keeps him quiet I am not cpmplaining
I feel the same way. If the whole forum is going to be outraged about Steve and Kim, then why all the fluffy stuff with these two?
Well they appear to only be kissing unlike Kimbot and Steven, and they are such a cute couple I can't help but like them
Yes and isn't Christopher guilty of selling his friends out, knocking on the door of the dark side ;-)
Probably not exactly like Steve and Kim...
Mark is quite well liked by a lot of the GBP and same for Christopher. Well not Christopher for me personally, I think he's been unnecessarily cutting at times with some of his comments but there's been a little bit of harmless flirting and teasing between the two of them since Matthew left. Contrast that with controlling Steven and Kimberly who seems to just obey his every wish. I know which two I'd prefer to watch. I'm actually really disappointed in Kim. I liked her a lot even when people were calling her kim-bot and cold, I saw her as just a rather reserved and guarded person. I honestly thought she had more about her than to allow Steven be so bossy.
I like Christopher but don't particularly like Mark. But how Mark behaves is often a mirror of who he is spending time with. So perhaps being with Christopher will do him good.
I think we have known for a couple of weeks that Christopher "liked" Mark and I think they way they are getting closer to each other without people noticing is rather sweet.
Neither Christopher nor Mark are scary control freaks nor are they created in a lab that had no idea how to program emotion.
Unlike He who shall not be named & the Kimbot, they are both widely liked. Not necessarily by the same people, but both are well liked. And relatively normal compared to the control freak and his willing victim/co-conspirator/faulty fembot.
Keys everybody
But there are no double standards. Steven and Kimberley have openly and very visibly had full penetrative sex in the house on multiple occasions. Mark and Christopher might have kissed. Not the same at all.
How sure can you be it was that! it might have been something else not penetrative. We need further proof. lol
I don't believe what I am typing..:o:D
Well we don't know, do we? However if found out to be true, I have a feeling it will all be brushed away as true love in some kind of fluffy way because they are liked.
If the act itself is disgusting, then what's the difference between the two, is what I'm asking?
They were getting abuse when they were barely even kissing,and lots of it.
The double standards strike again seemingly on this forum.............for around the 20th time this series;-)
What do you think was happening when Steven climbed on top of Kim and banged up and down
I don't understand what you're saying. We didn't see any frantic hand or arse movements under the bed. In fact their bodies seemed far apart. So they're getting the benefit of the doubt from me. Just like other HMs who kissed under the covers have had the benefit of the doubt. It wasn't a big deal.
The difference with Kim and Steven, unlike all those other couples who've got away with an overnight fumble, is they made NO attempt to be discrete on not one but 3 occasions. Absolutely no attempt. In fact they seemed at best, to think "sod it" and at worst, to be actively doing it for airtime. And to cap it off, he openly discussed it next day.
Plus we're having their noxious toxic romance shoved down our throats now in every HL show. There's nothing unpleasant about Mark and Christopher's whatever-it-is.
For me, there's no comparison or double standard whatsoever.
It's about who it involves - their dynamic, their behaviour, which determines how I feel about it.
There's a lot wrong with the Steven/Kimberly 'relationship' and there has been from day one. I knew when I heard the '119 countries' boast that Steven was gonna be cringeworthy (or "cringe")...I've had my head in my hands ever since. What makes it worse is Kim's lack of awareness/reaction/reciprocation. So when they end up having sex, that it all kinds of eww...I haven't 'believed' in them, and I certainly don't now.
Anybody else can kiss - and I can evaluate them separately. It is not the kissing. It's not even the sex, necessarily...Though sex is obviously more serious than kissing or so my wife says.