Class doesn't include being a sanctimonious busybody either.
Some people like pierced ears on young children, some don't. Neither group is better or more admirable than the other, it's just that one group thinks it is.
Not sure why you posted this, unless you're just going for contentious.
I sat and thought of friends and/or relations that I know, whose daughters have pierced ears, I thought of at least twelve.
None of them have chavs for parents, two Dads are plasterers, one a sergeant in the police, one a black cab driver, one an architect, one an owner-driver trucker, two are civil servants, (one Dad, one Mum), another Dad a naval officer, the remainder are all well dressed working people with nice houses.
All of them own homes that are worth between £750,000 and £1,000,000, don't see too many chavs in that bracket.
I'm in a similar league, but I have no children.
I hate seeing babies and very young children with pierced ears. I don't think children should have their ears pierced until they're old enough to make the decision themselves. It is their body, after all.
so you don't think rich kids get their ears pierced
Class and wealth aren't necessarily connected.
I associate babies and young children with pierced ears with traditional working class culture, at least in the UK.
That was my observation growing up many years ago (not backed up by any research, so just a guess). Nowadays it seems to be more associated with the 'chav' element. Again, this is just the case in the UK. It may well be a different case in other countries and cultures.
Class and wealth aren't necessarily connected.
I associate babies and young children with pierced ears with traditional working class culture, at least in the UK.
That was my observation growing up many years ago (not backed up by any research, so just a guess). Nowadays it seems to be more associated with the 'chav' element. Again, this is just the case in the UK. It may well be a different case in other countries and cultures.
I think you see young American kids with their ears pierced..
Class and wealth aren't necessarily connected.
I associate babies and young children with pierced ears with traditional working class culture, at least in the UK.
That was my observation growing up many years ago (not backed up by any research, so just a guess). Nowadays it seems to be more associated with the 'chav' element. Again, this is just the case in the UK. It may well be a different case in other countries and cultures.
I was/am what I think would be termed 'middle class' when I got my daughters ears pierced as a baby which was 28 years ago.
I just asked her about this and she said she would love to get her daughters ears pierced if she has a girl but will not as she does not want any hassle off her friends etc.
Her partner has made it clear to her that he does not want any child of his to have her ears pierced.
I think you see young American kids with their ears pierced..
You may well do. There's a lot of different cultural groups and influences in the USA, so opinions may vary there.
It is becoming much less popular in the UK though, certainly as far as babies and toddlers go.
I was/am what I think would be termed 'middle class' when I got my daughters ears pierced as a baby which was 28 years ago.
I just asked her about this and she said she would love to get her daughters ears pierced if she has a girl but will not as she does not want any hassle off her friends etc.
Her partner has made it clear to her that he does not want any child of his to have her ears pierced.
Why would she 'love' to get her daughter's ears pierced? In what way does she think it would benefit her?
Just asking, because I personally can't think of anything more pointless.
A debate on “Victoria Derbyshire” currently where some parents are arguing they should have the right to be able to pierce their babies/children’s ears. One just argued it’s better as a baby because they don’t fiddle with it as much and it heals quicker.
It's the same argument trotted out for male circumcision.
chav behaviour is not about wealth, it is about lifestyle choices..
Are you SURE!
She mentioned a police sergeant, a naval officer, an architect and a couple of civil servants, among others.
And you think that because they have daughters with pierced ears they are all chavs?
I don't really have a dog in this hunt, as I only have sons, but I know a lot of parents of daughters that have had their daughters ears pierced, and none of their family walk around in track suit bottoms, ball caps, and a pit bull on a piece of rope.
You couldn't make it up, oh but hang on.
It has constantly been said that money can't buy class, it would appear that intelligent reasoning is in short supply too.
I had my ears pierced as a baby (as do most Asians) and my parents were/are the most un-chavvy people imaginable. I looked very cute with my little gold, ruby and sapphire earrings in.
Personally I think babies who have their ears peirced in our culture look quite tacky and cheap- also, seeing as it's purely superficial I find it an odd concept as when they're tiddlers you tend to try and eliminate any possible exposure to unnecessary germs. But of course that's only my opinion.
It doesn't really effect me though so who am I to preach to someone how to raise their kid? I'm sure some of my parenting techniques rustle a few jimmies (omgz baby reins amirite???)
I think we should all just carry on living our lives and not dwell on the parallels between parenting styles.
Personally I think babies who have their ears peirced in our culture look quite tacky and cheap- also, seeing as it's purely superficial I find it an odd concept as when they're tiddlers you tend to try and eliminate any possible exposure to unnecessary germs. But of course that's only my opinion.
It doesn't really effect me though so who am I to preach to someone how to raise their kid? I'm sure some of my parenting techniques rustle a few jimmies (omgz baby reins amirite???)
I think we should all just carry on living our lives and not dwell on the parallels between parenting styles.
Babies and young children are beautiful and perfect. Do people who have their babies ears pierced look at them and think 'hmmm, somethings missing...I know, I'll put tacky jewellery on them!'
Personally I think babies who have their ears peirced in our culture look quite tacky and cheap- also, seeing as it's purely superficial I find it an odd concept as when they're tiddlers you tend to try and eliminate any possible exposure to unnecessary germs. But of course that's only my opinion.
It doesn't really effect me though so who am I to preach to someone how to raise their kid? I'm sure some of my parenting techniques rustle a few jimmies (omgz baby reins amirite???)
I think we should all just carry on living our lives and not dwell on the parallels between parenting styles.
Nobody really knows what they're doing anyways
The only people you should worry and care about are your own family .
A debate on “Victoria Derbyshire” currently where some parents are arguing they should have the right to be able to pierce their babies/children’s ears. One just argued it’s better as a baby because they don’t fiddle with it as much and it heals quicker.
Am I the only one who thinks this is madness that parents are even considering this?
Heres how I see it. Getting a piercing is a statement/choice. It serves no purpose. Dressing up a child at least serves a purpose in that they're wearing clothing that they require. But a piercing has no purpose. So the parent(s) are effectively making a decision to pierce their child and put some metal there purely for the reason of how they will look. It's the parent decision. The child has no say and they're not old enough to make a judgement even if they did have a say.
I genuinely believe parents doing this is shameful and an utter disgrace. Causing pain in an innocent child for vanity purposes is unforgivable and feckless. A member of my family did this and I was really annoyed about it.
I genuinely believe parents doing this is shameful and an utter disgrace. Causing pain in an innocent child for vanity purposes is unforgivable and feckless. A member of my family did this and I was really annoyed about it.
You are of course entitled to your beliefs, genuine as I am sure they are. However you are not entitled to impose them on anyone else. Have your own children and treat their ears as you see fit. Beyond that mind your own business.
(This comment is directed at many on this thread not just you greg - just to be clear)
You are of course entitled to your beliefs, genuine as I am sure they are. However you are not entitled to impose them on anyone else. Have your own children and treat their ears as you see fit. Beyond that mind your own business.
(This comment is directed at many on this thread not just you greg - just to be clear)
I don't agree with it and think it is very chavy as well. When the girl is old enough to want to do it herself then it is ok NOT before. And don't get me started about boys with earrings it is ridiculous.
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One of the idiot mothers actually admitted that she views her baby as her new designer handbag.
Can't buy class.
A person's opinion is defiantly not fact lol.
Clueless
Class doesn't include being a sanctimonious busybody either.
Some people like pierced ears on young children, some don't. Neither group is better or more admirable than the other, it's just that one group thinks it is.
Just shows that money can't buy class.
There's an echo in here...
so you don't think rich kids get their ears pierced
Class and wealth aren't necessarily connected.
I associate babies and young children with pierced ears with traditional working class culture, at least in the UK.
That was my observation growing up many years ago (not backed up by any research, so just a guess). Nowadays it seems to be more associated with the 'chav' element. Again, this is just the case in the UK. It may well be a different case in other countries and cultures.
I think you see young American kids with their ears pierced..
I was/am what I think would be termed 'middle class' when I got my daughters ears pierced as a baby which was 28 years ago.
I just asked her about this and she said she would love to get her daughters ears pierced if she has a girl but will not as she does not want any hassle off her friends etc.
Her partner has made it clear to her that he does not want any child of his to have her ears pierced.
You may well do. There's a lot of different cultural groups and influences in the USA, so opinions may vary there.
It is becoming much less popular in the UK though, certainly as far as babies and toddlers go.
Why would she 'love' to get her daughter's ears pierced? In what way does she think it would benefit her?
Just asking, because I personally can't think of anything more pointless.
It's the same argument trotted out for male circumcision.
Are you SURE!
She mentioned a police sergeant, a naval officer, an architect and a couple of civil servants, among others.
And you think that because they have daughters with pierced ears they are all chavs?
I don't really have a dog in this hunt, as I only have sons, but I know a lot of parents of daughters that have had their daughters ears pierced, and none of their family walk around in track suit bottoms, ball caps, and a pit bull on a piece of rope.
You couldn't make it up, oh but hang on.
It has constantly been said that money can't buy class, it would appear that intelligent reasoning is in short supply too.
Sorry OP, I'll not be signing the petition.
It doesn't really effect me though so who am I to preach to someone how to raise their kid? I'm sure some of my parenting techniques rustle a few jimmies (omgz baby reins amirite???)
I think we should all just carry on living our lives and not dwell on the parallels between parenting styles.
Nobody really knows what they're doing anyways
The truest thing on the thread
The only people you should worry and care about are your own family .
I genuinely believe parents doing this is shameful and an utter disgrace. Causing pain in an innocent child for vanity purposes is unforgivable and feckless. A member of my family did this and I was really annoyed about it.
You are of course entitled to your beliefs, genuine as I am sure they are. However you are not entitled to impose them on anyone else. Have your own children and treat their ears as you see fit. Beyond that mind your own business.
(This comment is directed at many on this thread not just you greg - just to be clear)
I don't agree with it and think it is very chavy as well. When the girl is old enough to want to do it herself then it is ok NOT before. And don't get me started about boys with earrings it is ridiculous.