Would seem a bit extreme. I usually make do with pinching myself, but neither of us can be sure that 'doing' either is actually any more than running a purely mental sequence which gives rise to the expected feeling. Can't think why it would be like that, unless...
Doesn't our pesky nervous system have a very minor role to play?:D Oh am I now clever? lol
Do you remember that challenge your English teacher used to give you 'Describe a spiral staircase without using your hands?' How about an atheist thought for the day that doesn't mention God?
That helps explain why I don’t define myself as an atheist any more than I define myself as not being a Van Morrison fan.
It's "Thought for the Day" not "Faith of the Day".
I'm sooo tempted to do a mushy, but it grinds my gears that the programme uses human tragedy as an excuse to preach. >:(
What about a programme like Channel 4's "4 thought"? which features views from all sorts of people on religion, race, orientation, atheism.
I'm not sure what point was raised in "Thought for the day" as I don't listen to it but Radio 4 does do a fair but for religious programming and I think it's just the sort of programme in which you just won't be able to please everyone.
I'm quite sure that of offence was intended in any broadcast on a show like TFTD.
It's "Thought for the Day" not "Faith of the Day".
I'm sooo tempted to do a mushy, but it grinds my gears that the programme uses human tragedy as an excuse to preach. >:(
Its the pretend inclusivity of the title that gets me. At least Songs of Praise and all the rest of the religious broadcasts honestly declare the nature of their content.
Why? If I said that being able to create nuclear power or invent the wheel was only possible with a big complex brain would you regard that as elitist or a simple statement of fact? No difference.
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Richard, are you writing stuff in a foreign language at all?
I've only seen it on two of your posts including this one.
Like what? Pain is merely what we call the occurrence of what you've described. However it happened we'd call it something. It needn't feel like pain, I guess, but then - like what? Sadness?
Are you just playing games with this?
Not so much these days. Since object oriented programming the interrupts are below the units higher processing, but they still exist. Some interrupts are more maskable than others and; as they can be annoying, by distracting from the main task, if your computer could talk about its experience - it might call them pain.
I was talking about these days: the present day laptop I actually have right here in front of me. In any case, OOP doesn't make any such difference; and it doesn't matter what a computer might call it.
First you need to make one that feels, but before you can do that you have to know what 'feel' means. Maybe it just means - the "what it's like" of an experience from the pov of the feeling entity. A computer intelligence trying to work out how we work in terms of what it knows about itself, might say our pain is like its NMIs.
So do non-believers. How many hours do we get devoted to promoting secular or humanist views? Zilch.
Secular includes everything not religious.
I do agree that there could be more in-depth discussion programmes on TV and Radio.
But would they get much of an audience? Most today seem to thrive on light programmes where they don't need to think so much. Dumbing down caused by our media, I think. They need to up their game imho.
I was talking about these days: the present day laptop I actually have right here in front of me. In any case, OOP doesn't make any such difference; and it doesn't matter what a computer might call it.
I think all of that is mostly beside the point.
Certainly not playing games.
You brought in the 'pain' angle, I suggested it wouldn't lead anywhere, from the start, but gave some thoughts anyway. I've asked you to say what you think is wrong with my answers, but all you say is that I don't understand the question, or that what I'm saying is beside the point. I ask you to express the question (or the point) in the way you understand it, but get nothing.
Do you know the answer you want?
You can use your laptop/pain example if you want, but it's only a function. So, 'easy'.
Eta Perhaps try to describe a different way information about the external environment would be usefully available to an aware animal, than by a rich internal representation of same.
I do agree that there could be more in-depth discussion programmes on TV and Radio.
But would they get much of an audience? Most today seem to thrive on light programmes where they don't need to think so much. Dumbing down caused by our media, I think. They need to up their game imho.
I am sorry I complained obviously us secularist/non-believers should be grateful for the Archers and Drive.
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How much boiling oil do you keep in your kitchen .... and how big is your .... chip pan?
Chip pan? I have an industrial sized beer vat. That's upstairs above the front door. Devil Smilie!
I forgive you my child.....
Doesn't our pesky nervous system have a very minor role to play?
Yes but well worth the investment. BOGOF at Sainsbury's for this week only. Only for the masochistic.
That helps explain why I don’t define myself as an atheist any more than I define myself as not being a Van Morrison fan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icmRCixQrx8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8rhIZJAdd0
(To be viewed sequentially, couldn't find a single clip of the opening 3 minutes!)
What about a programme like Channel 4's "4 thought"? which features views from all sorts of people on religion, race, orientation, atheism.
I'm not sure what point was raised in "Thought for the day" as I don't listen to it
I'm quite sure that of offence was intended in any broadcast on a show like TFTD.
Its the pretend inclusivity of the title that gets me. At least Songs of Praise and all the rest of the religious broadcasts honestly declare the nature of their content.
Religion Not Just For Easter Or Christmas, Welby Tells Broadcasters
Very good article from Archbishop Justin.
I agree wholeheartedly with him on this.
Richard, are you writing stuff in a foreign language at all?
I've only seen it on two of your posts including this one.
Not sure if it is a bug or not.
Are you just playing games with this?
I was talking about these days: the present day laptop I actually have right here in front of me. In any case, OOP doesn't make any such difference; and it doesn't matter what a computer might call it.
I think all of that is mostly beside the point.
Archbishop asks for more public funded religious broadcasting. I certainly did not see that coming.
Welcome back to the fold anne.
I wondered what had happened to you.
Religious people pay their TV licences too you know.
There is a huge lack of religious programmes compared to the myriad secular ones.
So stop complaining... before you start.
So do non-believers. How many hours do we get devoted to promoting secular or humanist views? Zilch.
If you can name one programme devoted to presenting secular views I would be most interested to hear about it.
Secular includes everything not religious.
I do agree that there could be more in-depth discussion programmes on TV and Radio.
But would they get much of an audience? Most today seem to thrive on light programmes where they don't need to think so much. Dumbing down caused by our media, I think. They need to up their game imho.
You brought in the 'pain' angle, I suggested it wouldn't lead anywhere, from the start, but gave some thoughts anyway. I've asked you to say what you think is wrong with my answers, but all you say is that I don't understand the question, or that what I'm saying is beside the point. I ask you to express the question (or the point) in the way you understand it, but get nothing.
Do you know the answer you want?
You can use your laptop/pain example if you want, but it's only a function. So, 'easy'.
Eta Perhaps try to describe a different way information about the external environment would be usefully available to an aware animal, than by a rich internal representation of same.
I am sorry I complained obviously us secularist/non-believers should be grateful for the Archers and Drive.
Dawkins pops up all over the place.
No one seems to talk about humanism very much.
Could you take a look at #post 963 for me please?
It's bugging me.
What about Big Question which can cover all sorts of issues not just religious questions.
If you ask me, the BBC along has a wealth of programming in which religion doesn't get a look in.
We're in for a feast over Easter though LOT - compared to any other time of year. :eek:
We have to make the most of the crumbs that broadcasters afford the religious in our nation. :cool:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2014/easter-programming.html
Forgot link lol