Breakfast did look good, well from the brief glimpse we got of it!
All seems very chintzy there though.
Too much stuff for me, not a fan of frills and flounces or fake flowers and lots of nick nacks, but I'd imagine they look after their guests well.
Nowhere near enough of the breakfast experience for me.
Dear Elaine,
You have a great b&b and I love the location. However, I can never consider booking because you have an arse for a husband.
Sincerely and honestly yours,
Norm!
He is probably salt of the earth (or insert other cliché of choice) can be utterly relied on in a crisis, loves his mum and would nurse his wife through a terrible illness without hesitation... but in front of an audience, he comes across as a self-obsessed dic. And if you're a guest, that's what you get.
Too much stuff for me, not a fan of frills and flounces or fake flowers and lots of nick nacks, but I'd imagine they look after their guests well.
Nowhere near enough of the breakfast experience for me.
Breakfast quality and service was obviously fine... otherwise we'd have seen something of it. ;-)
Women who have husbands like that are often a lot stronger than they appear, they just save it for behind closed doors.
Yes, I expect she's very happy with the overall package and no one is perfect.
I suspect the high point of Ken's life was during his boxing promotion years, he loved the whole masculine, crude world and harks back to it because he's never found anything to replace it. Sad, really.
I Can not say a big enough thank you to Elaine and Ken for being the most fabulous hosts to my daughter and her friend this weekend. They went above and beyond what any other hotelier could possibly do for their guests. My daughter went to V Festival and Ken even collected the girls late Saturday night (about midnight) and brought them back to Allscott Mill so they didn't have to get a taxi. He even called me to assure me that he would wait for the girls and make sure they are back safely as he would of done with his own daughter. I had a lot of reservations about letting the girls go to the festival and Elaine and Ken looked after them so well I felt like we had family looking after them for me. Thank you so much!
He's probably a really kind, genuine person... but got his behaviour spectacularly wrong on 4iaB.
I just watched the episode, and honestly, all that I can remember is just how annoying Ken has been and his so called "jokes". Can you imagine paying £120 a night to be surrounded by that man?
Now, everything else aside, I thought the place tonight looked lovely- there were some things that weren't to my personal taste- like those awful curtains everywhere and gold/ cream colour palette, but it wasn't too bad. The rooms were beautiful and big and so were the bathrooms. Breakfast looked good. I also quite liked the place which hosted the activities- would love to visit it myself.
Having had a quick amble through some of their (uniformly excellent) TA reviews, I noticed this one...
He's probably a really kind, genuine person... but got his behaviour spectacularly wrong on 4iaB.
How interesting. There's obviously very much two sides to him then. Maybe its a nerves thing that made him portray himself as he did on TV. Some people can take on quite a different persona when in a potentially tense or unfamiliar situation.
He hides his kind, genuine persona spectacularly well.
If the TA reviews are the 'real' him, then yes he certainly did!
I wonder if the B&B's taking part ever go on sites like Trip Advisor during the visits to see what reviews the places there visiting have had? Perhaps they're asked not too but the temptation to do so must be huge.
Having had a quick amble through some of their (uniformly excellent) TA reviews, I noticed this one...
He's probably a really kind, genuine person... but got his behaviour spectacularly wrong on 4iaB.
He just cannot rein it in, the likes of Ken always want to be the centre of attraction, I have no doubt there is a lot of kindness in Ken but the man is one gigantic show-off, enabled by Elaine he is never going to change.
He just cannot rein it in, the likes of Ken always want to be the centre of attraction, I have no doubt there is a lot of kindness in Ken but the man is one gigantic show-off, enabled by Elaine he is never going to change.
I'm obviously watching a different programme here. Ken makes jokes that are notalways funny but offensive? No. People need to stop being offended about trivial things. Daft jokes about men being better than women are hardly worth thinking about and there they all are earnestly shaking their heads and deeming it all "inappropriate".
Of course it's a competition and what better excuse to condemn your fellow competitor who tells rubbish jokes. Of course claim to be " offended". Ken and his wife have a really nice place. He tells schoolboy jokes but he's not a monster. I'd like to see his place win as I think that, like him or not, he's not trying to be anything other than what he is.
I'm obviously watching a different programme here. Ken makes jokes that are notalways funny but offensive? No. People need to stop being offended about trivial things. Daft jokes about men being better than women are hardly worth thinking about and there they all are earnestly shaking their heads and deeming it all "inappropriate".
Of course it's a competition and what better excuse to condemn your fellow competitor who tells rubbish jokes. Of course claim to be " offended". Ken and his wife have a really nice place. He tells schoolboy jokes but he's not a monster. I'd like to see his place win as I think that, like him or not, he's not trying to be anything other than what he is.
Have to say I agree. The best way to be with old dinosaurs like him (if he really is like that) is to smile benignly, ignoring the crap. They are generally not very bright but I would imagine he is a sharp enough operator and little old fashioned me loves his beautiful B&B. Looks like the breakfast was wonderful and they keep the place pristine.
I wouldn't be surprised if under all the silly bluster, the guy's a gent.
He just cannot rein it in, the likes of Ken always want to be the centre of attraction, I have no doubt there is a lot of kindness in Ken but the man is one gigantic show-off, enabled by Elaine he is never going to change.
I agree with you, except that I see no evidence of any particular kindness. The guy's a jerk.
Too much stuff for me, not a fan of frills and flounces or fake flowers and lots of nick nacks, but I'd imagine they look after their guests well.
Nowhere near enough of the breakfast experience for me.
I wouldn't think so. Women who have husbands like that are often a lot stronger than they appear, they just save it for behind closed doors.
I agree and think that's part of the problem. Men like him are usually so weak, so inadequate, that they have to hide behind this macho persona they've built up. Meanwhile their wives are carrying them every step of the way.
Why so sensitive, Elaine? Your rude, disgusting husband can be as offensive as he likes and it doesn't embarrass you, but the slightest criticism and you start wailing... Grow up.
I find it difficult to believe that this is the first time she's heard this about her husband.
Why are they obsessed with toilet brushes? what they hell do they leave in the bowl??,lol so long as it is cleaned daily or as needed by the owner I dont see it as a problem.
In the hotel i worked at we never left toilet brushes, they were just one more thing you MIGHT have to clean, although most were never used and we phased them out. The rooms were cleaned every day anyway.... much more hygienic NOT to have them.
Poor Ken, calling women 'biotches'. How much more insecure can he possibly get.
LOL, people are taking him far too seriously, he has worked in a male dominate world for many years, and thats who he is, instead of the women going all silly they should give him back as good as they get.
I worked in engineering and also alongside serving soldiers and officers for quite a few years and men at work are like that, and I used to give back a lot worse believe me lol..... He is winding people up.
His wife got upset over the criticism of him and walked out, and when she came back you could see how gentle he was with her.
He reminds me of John McCririck and the way he talks to his wife Jenny The Booby. Yet she has been with him 42 years and adores him...
These men are all mouth but behind doors they are different I am sure you will find that with this couple.
I take no notice. I dont think she is as timid as portrayed. I loved their home it was gorgeous and a lot of love went into it.
Now you see if i was at the dinner table i would have been over the moon talking about the great boxers it would have been right up my street and my husbands.
I wonder why the house is for sale.
Anyway what you see is not necessarily what you get, and AGAIN we only see a few minutes of hours of filming.
LOL, people are taking him far too seriously, he has worked in a male dominate world for many years, and thats who he is, instead of the women going all silly they should give him back as good as they get.
I worked in engineering and also alongside serving soldiers and officers for quite a few years and men at work are like that, and I used to give back a lot worse believe me lol..... He is winding people up.
His wife got upset over the criticism of him and walked out, and when she came back you could see how gentle he was with her.
He reminds me of John McCririck and the way he talks to his wife Jenny The Booby. Yet she has been with him 42 years and adores him...
These men are all mouth but behind doors they are different I am sure you will find that with this couple.
I take no notice. I dont think she is as timid as portrayed. I loved their home it was gorgeous and a lot of love went into it.
Now you see if i was at the dinner table i would have been over the moon talking about the great boxers it would have been right up my street and my husbands.
I wonder why the house is for sale.
Anyway what you see is not necessarily what you get, and AGAIN we only see a few minutes of hours of filming.
I don't necessarily disagree with what you say, but Ken has to be aware of exactly who (and why) he is trying to wind people up, some people are far more sensitive and dare I say naïve and not everything will be taken in the spirit it is intended: I would certainly have not just sat there and giggled nervously but any spirited response would have been edited out. I agree, their place is beautiful but production was so busy showing us Ken and his "jokes" it didn't get to figure much. To me they came across as Ken the show-off and Elaine the enabler and their lovely home mostly got lost in all of this:(
LOL, people are taking him far too seriously, he has worked in a male dominate world for many years, and thats who he is, instead of the women going all silly they should give him back as good as they get.
But he doesn't work in a male dominated world any more and he should have evolved. ;-) Anyone rising to the baits he was liberally casting would have to bear in mind that they too are representing the businesses they (mostly) own and nurture.
While almost every week we see spectacular failures to realise that fact, anyone going into the show with an ounce of common sense would see that getting into a sniping match with someone like Ken isn't necessarily going to reflect well on your business, not least because you can't control how you will appear in the edit.
I would certainly have not just sat there and giggled nervously but any spirited response would have been edited out.
Or, his windup behaviour would have been heavily edited leaving you to look like a demented harridan* who can't take a joke (which was edited before transmission).
*assuming you're female!
E2a: thinking back though, there was that unforgiveable line about the (mispronounced) bitches sent in to clean. I might have refused to continue to participate at that point. I would certainly have refused to host him if my night was still to come. Elaine, fine. Not Ray.
LOL, people are taking him far too seriously, he has worked in a male dominate world for many years, and thats who he is, instead of the women going all silly they should give him back as good as they get.
I worked in engineering and also alongside serving soldiers and officers for quite a few years and men at work are like that, and I used to give back a lot worse believe me lol..... He is winding people up.
His wife got upset over the criticism of him and walked out, and when she came back you could see how gentle he was with her.
He reminds me of John McCririck and the way he talks to his wife Jenny The Booby. Yet she has been with him 42 years and adores him...
These men are all mouth but behind doors they are different I am sure you will find that with this couple.
I take no notice. I dont think she is as timid as portrayed. I loved their home it was gorgeous and a lot of love went into it.
Now you see if i was at the dinner table i would have been over the moon talking about the great boxers it would have been right up my street and my husbands.
I wonder why the house is for sale.
Anyway what you see is not necessarily what you get, and AGAIN we only see a few minutes of hours of filming.
I am a woman and have also worked in a male dominated career all my life but I absolutely disagree with everything you've said here, apart from the BIB.
LOL, people are taking him far too seriously, he has worked in a male dominate world for many years, and thats who he is, instead of the women going all silly they should give him back as good as they get.
I worked in engineering and also alongside serving soldiers and officers for quite a few years and men at work are like that, and I used to give back a lot worse believe me lol..... He is winding people up.
His wife got upset over the criticism of him and walked out, and when she came back you could see how gentle he was with her.
He reminds me of John McCririck and the way he talks to his wife Jenny The Booby. Yet she has been with him 42 years and adores him...
These men are all mouth but behind doors they are different I am sure you will find that with this couple.
I take no notice. I dont think she is as timid as portrayed. I loved their home it was gorgeous and a lot of love went into it.
Now you see if i was at the dinner table i would have been over the moon talking about the great boxers it would have been right up my street and my husbands.
I wonder why the house is for sale.
Anyway what you see is not necessarily what you get, and AGAIN we only see a few minutes of hours of filming.
I can take a joke, but I would feel uncomfortable and creeped out at a man who is old enough to be my grandfather referring to my gender as "biatches". It's just not funny and it's certainly not something you expect to hear from someone who's meant to be hospitable and welcoming.
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Too much stuff for me, not a fan of frills and flounces or fake flowers and lots of nick nacks, but I'd imagine they look after their guests well.
Nowhere near enough of the breakfast experience for me.
I wouldn't think so. Women who have husbands like that are often a lot stronger than they appear, they just save it for behind closed doors.
You have a great b&b and I love the location. However, I can never consider booking because you have an arse for a husband.
Sincerely and honestly yours,
Norm!
He is probably salt of the earth (or insert other cliché of choice
Breakfast quality and service was obviously fine... otherwise we'd have seen something of it. ;-)
Yes, I expect she's very happy with the overall package and no one is perfect.
I suspect the high point of Ken's life was during his boxing promotion years, he loved the whole masculine, crude world and harks back to it because he's never found anything to replace it. Sad, really.
He's probably a really kind, genuine person... but got his behaviour spectacularly wrong on 4iaB.
He hides his kind, genuine persona spectacularly well.
Now, everything else aside, I thought the place tonight looked lovely- there were some things that weren't to my personal taste- like those awful curtains everywhere and gold/ cream colour palette, but it wasn't too bad. The rooms were beautiful and big and so were the bathrooms. Breakfast looked good. I also quite liked the place which hosted the activities- would love to visit it myself.
Yes, that's the exact word I was looking for.
How interesting. There's obviously very much two sides to him then. Maybe its a nerves thing that made him portray himself as he did on TV. Some people can take on quite a different persona when in a potentially tense or unfamiliar situation.
If the TA reviews are the 'real' him, then yes he certainly did!
I wonder if the B&B's taking part ever go on sites like Trip Advisor during the visits to see what reviews the places there visiting have had? Perhaps they're asked not too but the temptation to do so must be huge.
He just cannot rein it in, the likes of Ken always want to be the centre of attraction, I have no doubt there is a lot of kindness in Ken but the man is one gigantic show-off, enabled by Elaine he is never going to change.
That's it - constantly showing off.
Of course it's a competition and what better excuse to condemn your fellow competitor who tells rubbish jokes. Of course claim to be " offended". Ken and his wife have a really nice place. He tells schoolboy jokes but he's not a monster. I'd like to see his place win as I think that, like him or not, he's not trying to be anything other than what he is.
I wouldn't be surprised if under all the silly bluster, the guy's a gent.
I agree with you, except that I see no evidence of any particular kindness. The guy's a jerk.
I agree and think that's part of the problem. Men like him are usually so weak, so inadequate, that they have to hide behind this macho persona they've built up. Meanwhile their wives are carrying them every step of the way.
I find it difficult to believe that this is the first time she's heard this about her husband.
In the hotel i worked at we never left toilet brushes, they were just one more thing you MIGHT have to clean, although most were never used and we phased them out. The rooms were cleaned every day anyway.... much more hygienic NOT to have them.
LOL, people are taking him far too seriously, he has worked in a male dominate world for many years, and thats who he is, instead of the women going all silly they should give him back as good as they get.
I worked in engineering and also alongside serving soldiers and officers for quite a few years and men at work are like that, and I used to give back a lot worse believe me lol..... He is winding people up.
His wife got upset over the criticism of him and walked out, and when she came back you could see how gentle he was with her.
He reminds me of John McCririck and the way he talks to his wife Jenny The Booby. Yet she has been with him 42 years and adores him...
These men are all mouth but behind doors they are different I am sure you will find that with this couple.
I take no notice. I dont think she is as timid as portrayed. I loved their home it was gorgeous and a lot of love went into it.
Now you see if i was at the dinner table i would have been over the moon talking about the great boxers it would have been right up my street and my husbands.
I wonder why the house is for sale.
Anyway what you see is not necessarily what you get, and AGAIN we only see a few minutes of hours of filming.
I don't necessarily disagree with what you say, but Ken has to be aware of exactly who (and why) he is trying to wind people up, some people are far more sensitive and dare I say naïve and not everything will be taken in the spirit it is intended: I would certainly have not just sat there and giggled nervously but any spirited response would have been edited out. I agree, their place is beautiful but production was so busy showing us Ken and his "jokes" it didn't get to figure much. To me they came across as Ken the show-off and Elaine the enabler and their lovely home mostly got lost in all of this:(
While almost every week we see spectacular failures to realise that fact, anyone going into the show with an ounce of common sense would see that getting into a sniping match with someone like Ken isn't necessarily going to reflect well on your business, not least because you can't control how you will appear in the edit.
Or, his windup behaviour would have been heavily edited leaving you to look like a demented harridan* who can't take a joke (which was edited before transmission).
* assuming you're female!
E2a: thinking back though, there was that unforgiveable line about the (mispronounced) bitches sent in to clean. I might have refused to continue to participate at that point. I would certainly have refused to host him if my night was still to come. Elaine, fine. Not Ray.
I am a woman and have also worked in a male dominated career all my life but I absolutely disagree with everything you've said here, apart from the BIB.
I can take a joke, but I would feel uncomfortable and creeped out at a man who is old enough to be my grandfather referring to my gender as "biatches". It's just not funny and it's certainly not something you expect to hear from someone who's meant to be hospitable and welcoming.