I fostered a girl of sixteen who had learning difficulties and was a size 20, she used food as a comfort and I had the job of putting her on to a healthy living diet, at the time my daughter was a size 8 at age 14 and New Look did a plus range, it was lovely to take both girls shopping in the same shop and for my daughter to give her tips as to what was trendy, Jamelia needs to learn that life is diverse and not everything is black or white but I think she may have to face a few challenges before she learns that
I very much doubt most young girls would be watching Loose Women in the first place, let alone be influenced by Jamelia's comments.
Overweight people are often their own worst enemies, blaming everything and anything for making them feel uncomfortable for not being able to control their food intake/exercise.
What is a fatty's worst enemy, are people who won't live and let live.
It makes me laugh how when it comes to the overweight, ignorant and nasty people pretend their problem is down to them caring about health. Like we're really supposed to believe that they actually give a damn about the health of a total stranger and it's not just because they enjoy feeling superior and putting down others.
I have a family member who is a size 18 in tops but a size 12-14 on bottom. I wouldn't even say they are fat, it's just their stomach that is strangely huge, plus huge boobs. This person basically walks everywhere, does lane swimming every week, eats fruit daily, sticks to water/lemon squash/skimmed milk/tea without sugar, doesn't eat huge portions or junk food. In fact she's a really picky and boring eater, she doesn't like all those junk food treats like mcdonalds or pizza. Her legs are muscly and don't look big or fat at all but for some reason her stomach is big and she can't work out why, she's even been to the doctors about it and they said they can't find anything wrong with her. It's getting her down because men have left her for slimmer women and because of her difference in size on top and bottom, she finds it really hard to find a nice dress that will fit her rightly. Then you've also got people in my family like me and my younger sister, who pig out regularly and love KFC, dominos pizza, Chinese on the weekends, lots of crisps etc. But I'm a size 10 on top/12 on bottom and my younger sister is a size 6!! So I don't agree that being overweight always comes down to how much you eat or that size is always a sign of how healthy someone is.
Fat shaming is mean and judgemental, usually done by sanctimonious skinny people who have never been bigger than a size 8. Everyone knows the health issues associated with obesity. Pointing and laughing isn't going to motivate an overweight person to adopt a healthy, active lifestyle. They are more likely to isolate themselves and comfort eat.
Jamelia is a very foolish woman, and I hope her thoughtless comments come back to bite her on the arse.
Fat shaming is mean and judgemental, usually done by sanctimonious skinny people who have never been bigger than a size 8. Everyone knows the health issues associated with obesity. Pointing and laughing isn't going to motivate an overweight person to adopt a healthy, active lifestyle. They are more likely to isolate themselves and comfort eat.
Jamelia is a very foolish woman, and I hope her thoughtless comments come back to bite her on the area.
I think the princess needs to check her privilege.
Fat shaming is mean and judgemental, usually done by sanctimonious skinny people who have never been bigger than a size 8. Everyone knows the health issues associated with obesity. Pointing and laughing isn't going to motivate an overweight person to adopt a healthy, active lifestyle. They are more likely to isolate themselves and comfort eat.
It's normally done by skinny women and pea brain men, who binge drink, use sunbeds and eat enough kebabs themselves and then they pretend they are corncerned for people's health 😂 most people I know who REALLY are health consious, couldn't give a crap what other people are doing to themselves, as long as they are fit and healthy.
As a distinctly plus-sized person myself I have to say that I'm way more likely to eat better and exercise more if I'm feeling happy and good about myself. Feeling excluded from shops would make me miserable and would probably send me on a downward spiral.
Saying that, many shops do this already. Top Shop only go up to a 14 (maybe the odd 16?) and they are fairly small fitting. Any teenager with the slightest curves would struggle in there!
If fat people can't get clothes then they will just sit at home and eat and eat and eat until the emergency services have to winch them out the window to hospital because they won't fit in the door. You know it's true. I saw it on channel 5
A sack? I bet Jamelia's good in it. As long as she doesn't open her mouth.
Not the words of a top doctor, dietician or psychologist, but the enlightened words of... Jamelia.
Famous only for shite music and probably this furore, that well-established social commentator has even managed to outrage her fellow Loose Women harpies by proclaiming plus-size clothing shouldn't be sold in shops:
Now whilst I acknowledge that there are morons, toothless simpletons - and then Jamelia - does it have a point?
Is there any logic in these statements, or can we file her outpourings under 'verbal diahorrea'?
Some Obese people may be offended but i agree with her. If something's normalized and more acceptable, more people will do it, you just have to look at the growing numbers "needing" free weight loss surgery and the rising diabetes epidemic to see that the easier its made, the worse it gets.
Some Obese people may be offended but i agree with her. If something's normalized and more acceptable, more people will do it, you just have to look at the growing numbers "needing" free weight loss surgery and the rising diabetes epidemic to see that the easier its made, the worse it gets.
are you suggesting a range of clothes for thin people and another for the more plump of us is a solution?
As a distinctly plus-sized person myself I have to say that I'm way more likely to eat better and exercise more if I'm feeling happy and good about myself. Feeling excluded from shops would make me miserable and would probably send me on a downward spiral.
Saying that, many shops do this already. Top Shop only go up to a 14 (maybe the odd 16?) and they are fairly small fitting. Any teenager with the slightest curves would struggle in there!
Yes, I think that one of the most important ways you can support someone to be healthy is to make them feel good about themselves!
I put on some weight, and was working to lose it last year. But work was hellish at the time, I was on medication for stress that caused extreme hunger. I wasn't taking care of myself and it showed in everything, including looking scruffy. The only comfort I could take was food - I just couldn't add more punishment to my life.
I'm feeling a lot better now, and having clothes that look good on me at my current size actually helps me lose weight, because I feel positive enough to try!
The people I know who struggle with obesity, including some in my own family, do not need to be shamed any more than they already are on a daily basis by themselves, co-workers, strangers, the media... They just end up eating to comfort themselves. It's an awful, vicious cycle and the issue mostly stems from a mental place rather than a physical one.
People who struggle with their weight in both respects (too thin and too fat) need positive help, mental support, compassion and opportunity to succeed in combatting their issues.
I can honestly say I've never known an overweight person who was simply 'greedy' or didn't understand about healthy eating. They know they need to lose weight, they know how to do it, but there's a mental block on them actually doing it. The obese people I know have always had issues under the surface, usually tied in heavily with their self esteem, that sent them looking for comfort in food in much the same way I would imagine an alcoholic reaches for the bottle.
It is both self-punishment and self-comfort in one swoop - I can relate as it is similar to the mindset I experienced having suffered from an eating disorder. I still struggle sometimes and actually, these kind of comments like Jamelia's are borderline triggering for me, too.
In summary - she is incredibly ignorant about this subject.
A beautiful post, Mrs Checks. The way people treat and speak to those of us who struggle with weight is abhorrent. Even here on Digital Spy there are so many really nasty posts talking about overweight people in the most disgusting, cruel way possible. I learned very quickly not to read any threads about weight on here as so many people are so rude and hurtful about it. I wish there were more people in the world like you and less people like that. Those of us who have these problems might stand more chance of getting proper help then.
Really not a fan of hers but I watched her on LW and what she said made sense (for once). They were talking about people size 20 and above, and the fact that clothese companies have realised that clothes for obese teenagers is an untapped market and they are targeting them. She said that having very large clothes available in mainstream shops in the high street is facilitating and normalising being very large. She said the same was true for size zero too - that shops should not sell clothes in that size. She said both extremes were unhealthy. Can't argue with that. She said that outsize clothes should be available in specialist shops not in the High Street.
I could do with losing a few pounds myself - I am a size 14/16. I have put on weight because of my own actions - too much food, too little exercise. A bit of honesty would not go amiss. Yes, some overweight people have medical issues that make them larger, but they are fewer and far between. And I don't believe that a very fat person can be healthy, which is another myth that fat people come up with to excuse their lack of self control and greediness.
People in the western world are getting larger, this is not because of some genetic mutation, it is because we have access to cheap and high calorific food, we prefer sitting watching TV or playing on computers, and we have no self-control or much respect or we would not treat ourselves in this way in the first place. Fat people would like other people to be fat so that they feel normal, and it stops them from doing anything about it. We all have access to information on what you can do to achieve a healthy lifestyle, from the Drs surgery to the Internet, so the only people that fat people have to blame are themselves, not Jamelia.
Are you plus size? There are already separate shops for people who are size 14 and over, online, So Fabulous and Simply Be are just two. But most high street clothes shop have a range of bigger sizes, so don't be embarrassed.
Ok, I kind of get, I think, what she is trying to say. Which is, the fact that these huge clothes are available in high street shops perhaps makes being very very fat normal and ok. Whereas in reality being any extreme of size, whether that is extemely obese or extremely thin can of course be indicative of potentially life threatening health problems and shouldn't be "encouraged".
Its a bit like supermarkets selling gigantic packs of junk food - it almost encourages people to be greedy and makes eating way too many calories and too much fat seem acceptable and ok.
I certainly don't defend what Jamelia is saying, I thought these days we had moved away from segregating people for who and what they are - being of a different ethnicity, having red hair, same sex attraction etc, but I can sort of see what she is (in a very poorly worded kind of way) getting at.
To be fair it's all right for her, she can just wander into any shop and grab something off the rails and it will fit. Has she ever been overweight?? Does she know what it feels like to look in a mirror and hate what you see, go into a shop and not be able to find anything to fit you?? It is bloody soul destroying and heart breaking at the same time. I have gone from being overweight to slim to overweight again sometimes I look in the mirror and cry. I don't need the added heartache of only being able to get my clothes from certain shops(I have to get most of my dresses and tops from Pepperberry, even when I was slim, just so that they do up as the high street doesn't seem to cater for someone with a larger bust), I don't need to be made to feel even more ashamed after all I already feel ashamed enough. Stopping normal shops from selling clothes for everyone isn't the answer regardless of whether they are a size 20 or not, fat people still need to wear clothes.
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What is a fatty's worst enemy, are people who won't live and let live.
That is all.
The problems of obesity are well known but I don't think the existence of plus-sized fashion is a contributing factor in it's cause.
I have a family member who is a size 18 in tops but a size 12-14 on bottom. I wouldn't even say they are fat, it's just their stomach that is strangely huge, plus huge boobs. This person basically walks everywhere, does lane swimming every week, eats fruit daily, sticks to water/lemon squash/skimmed milk/tea without sugar, doesn't eat huge portions or junk food. In fact she's a really picky and boring eater, she doesn't like all those junk food treats like mcdonalds or pizza. Her legs are muscly and don't look big or fat at all but for some reason her stomach is big and she can't work out why, she's even been to the doctors about it and they said they can't find anything wrong with her. It's getting her down because men have left her for slimmer women and because of her difference in size on top and bottom, she finds it really hard to find a nice dress that will fit her rightly. Then you've also got people in my family like me and my younger sister, who pig out regularly and love KFC, dominos pizza, Chinese on the weekends, lots of crisps etc. But I'm a size 10 on top/12 on bottom and my younger sister is a size 6!! So I don't agree that being overweight always comes down to how much you eat or that size is always a sign of how healthy someone is.
Jamelia is a very foolish woman, and I hope her thoughtless comments come back to bite her on the arse.
I think the princess needs to check her privilege.
Every time I've actually noticed Jamelia she's been wearing some sort of sack, so it must be right on trend.
It's normally done by skinny women and pea brain men, who binge drink, use sunbeds and eat enough kebabs themselves and then they pretend they are corncerned for people's health 😂 most people I know who REALLY are health consious, couldn't give a crap what other people are doing to themselves, as long as they are fit and healthy.
at last!! a trend i can excel at.
Saying that, many shops do this already. Top Shop only go up to a 14 (maybe the odd 16?) and they are fairly small fitting. Any teenager with the slightest curves would struggle in there!
A sack? I bet Jamelia's good in it. As long as she doesn't open her mouth.
Some Obese people may be offended but i agree with her. If something's normalized and more acceptable, more people will do it, you just have to look at the growing numbers "needing" free weight loss surgery and the rising diabetes epidemic to see that the easier its made, the worse it gets.
are you suggesting a range of clothes for thin people and another for the more plump of us is a solution?
Yes, I think that one of the most important ways you can support someone to be healthy is to make them feel good about themselves!
I put on some weight, and was working to lose it last year. But work was hellish at the time, I was on medication for stress that caused extreme hunger. I wasn't taking care of myself and it showed in everything, including looking scruffy. The only comfort I could take was food - I just couldn't add more punishment to my life.
I'm feeling a lot better now, and having clothes that look good on me at my current size actually helps me lose weight, because I feel positive enough to try!
Yes and in separate shops.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
that would be interesting for those of us with a foot in both camps.
at what dress size should this start?
what if a thin person wants to wear a sack?
A beautiful post, Mrs Checks. The way people treat and speak to those of us who struggle with weight is abhorrent. Even here on Digital Spy there are so many really nasty posts talking about overweight people in the most disgusting, cruel way possible. I learned very quickly not to read any threads about weight on here as so many people are so rude and hurtful about it. I wish there were more people in the world like you and less people like that. Those of us who have these problems might stand more chance of getting proper help then.
I could do with losing a few pounds myself - I am a size 14/16. I have put on weight because of my own actions - too much food, too little exercise. A bit of honesty would not go amiss. Yes, some overweight people have medical issues that make them larger, but they are fewer and far between. And I don't believe that a very fat person can be healthy, which is another myth that fat people come up with to excuse their lack of self control and greediness.
People in the western world are getting larger, this is not because of some genetic mutation, it is because we have access to cheap and high calorific food, we prefer sitting watching TV or playing on computers, and we have no self-control or much respect or we would not treat ourselves in this way in the first place. Fat people would like other people to be fat so that they feel normal, and it stops them from doing anything about it. We all have access to information on what you can do to achieve a healthy lifestyle, from the Drs surgery to the Internet, so the only people that fat people have to blame are themselves, not Jamelia.
Its a bit like supermarkets selling gigantic packs of junk food - it almost encourages people to be greedy and makes eating way too many calories and too much fat seem acceptable and ok.
I certainly don't defend what Jamelia is saying, I thought these days we had moved away from segregating people for who and what they are - being of a different ethnicity, having red hair, same sex attraction etc, but I can sort of see what she is (in a very poorly worded kind of way) getting at.
On the way to the shops, would they have to sit at the back of the bus as well?
i should imagine they`ll be expected to walk.