Taylor Swift, is it just me...
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.... that has actually started to not dislike her.
Let's get this straight, I dislike pop music her stuff whining about blokes made me want to scream, I'd never actually buy anything from her, I thought her reaction to Fey/Poehlers amusing dissing of her was just pass-ag annoyance. Also the entire pop-country genre could die tomorrow and I'd be happy but...
Ya know her anti-bieber stance, the fact she writes her own songs, stands up for herself, and that 22 song, and the latest song are songs that I quite like. I find myself warming to her.
So is she not as bad as she could be? Or is she even quite good in a way
Let's get this straight, I dislike pop music her stuff whining about blokes made me want to scream, I'd never actually buy anything from her, I thought her reaction to Fey/Poehlers amusing dissing of her was just pass-ag annoyance. Also the entire pop-country genre could die tomorrow and I'd be happy but...
Ya know her anti-bieber stance, the fact she writes her own songs, stands up for herself, and that 22 song, and the latest song are songs that I quite like. I find myself warming to her.
So is she not as bad as she could be? Or is she even quite good in a way
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She has failed to truly progress in fact with her new material has regressed and churns out the same old tired song time and again. She is annoyingly bland immature and lacking in anything relatively interesting.
I was a fan of Fearless but since then bleh.
Not a huge follower of her, as I say, but the new stuff seems different, and so I think a progression of sorts. Doesn't sound the same material I've constantly run away from when it's come on my TV, radio.
I kind of agree about the writing own stuff thing, if it's dire then what does it matter but as I say I've liked a few of her more recent songs.
I'm not bashing her for the sake of it I just think she is average in all she does yet is regarded as more and it P***es me off. There is little or no real substance to her music it's whiny indifferent teen drivel. Even shake it off is petulant at best and she is almost 25.
She is just so bleh.
I agree that before her music was whiny, that's why I hated it, I think Shake it Off is fun though.
Possibly, but as I say I'm coming from an unbiased ear, and it's wormed into it, seems pretty funny and self-deprecating too.
Not sure if it was intentional but she looks awkward as hell in her latest vid. She doesnt seem a "natural" pop star to me, she gives off this slightly uncomfortable vibe.
I reckon she'd feel more comfortable staying roughly within the genre of country. She could make country pop- thats not a bad idea. Look at Aviici
Its not a money thing i love katy perry but Katy is playing arenas and Taylor is playing stadiums
Taylor has Also sold a lot more albums than Katy
Yeah, but Taylor had a solid fanbase from her early country-pop albums, mainly in the US. She only really took off when RED was released worldwide, and what happened there... the jump from country-pop, to being a "cool hipster" singing purely-pop songs. The change in her from her first few albums to RED was crazy. I mean I actually really liked Red, but that was brilliant strategy to get her fans/income/whatever you want to call it, from the GLOBAL pop market.
If she stuck to country, she'd be nowhere near as big as she is now (globally anyway). Don't get me wrong, I applaud her for trying something a bit different, but it just comes across as wayyyy too try hard imo. All of Red + early TS >>>>>> Shake it Off
Have you been in my brain? Thanks HM for summing it up:)
See this is what I don't understand. She doesn't need to make money. She's topped the Forbes list tons of times because of her stadium tours.
"we are never" gets on my nerves. I would happily never hear that song again.
I haven't listened to "Fearless". I might do that later on. At the moment, Taylor Swift is someone that I can listen to in small doses.
But here is the thing, Safe And Sound is a masterpiece.
So, put her together with someone like T-Bone Burnett and the Civil Wars, we could probably get one of the Country/Folk milestone albums.
But it seems she wants to have fun, nothing wrong with it.
I loved the Civil Wars. I was sad yet not surprised when they officially announced their split last month.
Safe and Sound is a great song.
Thankfull I'm not the only one feeling this way LM
Yes, it's amazing there are other people on the internet that will be negative about someone, who'd of thunk.
As I say I hate pop/country with a burning and unbelievable passion. So I understand people who like that genre being annoyed with the new direction. Yet for me it's an improvement.
I don't particularly buy she's doing it for money though, she may just have changed, people do at that age, quite a lot.
I'm not a huge fan of pure pop either, but I prefer Shake-it-off to anything that Perry has done, and probably Gaga.
Taylor may of gained more fans, higher single sales and even more tabloid attention, but she has lost something which I don't think you should lose. That is respect. A lot of people respected her in her early career. For a very young girl, she had a beautiful voice, was a good songwriter and helped bring the country genre back to a rise of prominence.
Where is that girl now? Oh i know. Shitty disposable music, endless lists of men she is seen with so she can write a hit single about how she is never in the wrong and the boy is always the bad guy and a rather annoying slightly full of herself attitude.
I just warmed to her after 22, and the new song has wormed into my head. She just seems to want to get out of an adolescent funk and have more fun.
So kids and teenagers like Taylor Swift, and the parents hear the music and they're not offended so it ticks all the boxes. That's why she has become more successful over the last 5 years.
I'm not a Taylor fan but I Knew You Were Trouble. was a mighty fine pop song.
like Avril Lavigne was and writing your own music is an accomplishment and to add to the first post of this thread, she has always been good IMO
An accomplished musician is much more than loads of money in the bank and being able to write your own songs. Quality of music, influence and longevity matter.
I would rather be true to who i am as an aritst and have people respect me and be around for a longtime, then have millions in the bank and for people to say "oh he writes his own song, he's brilliant". It's about integrity.
Seems a bit nebulous to me.