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    GormondGormond Posts: 15,838
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    You never were forced to use the Kinect. They reversed the 'Kinect needs to be plugged in' well before launch. Mine hasn't even seen the light of day. Never even took it out to look at it. Could be damaged for all I know (care).

    My point was that game developers could make it a required feature in their game knowing that every XB1 owner has a kinect but doing that now would be very unlikely.
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    sithlord3ksithlord3k Posts: 548
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    gillyallan wrote: »
    Is the Skype ability not at least part of a reason to own it ?

    I don't use Skype personally but guess many do.

    Like yourself, I don't use Skype, so I don't know. But, if people already have that option on the X1, and still they'd rather buy the console kinectless...
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    gillyallangillyallan Posts: 31,723
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    Does xbox1 have a video editor like ps4,? You know like win movie maker deal ?

    This is partly why we now want a camera for ps4. My son wants to make little videos and with the ability to do pic in pic the camera is now wanted.
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    sithlord3ksithlord3k Posts: 548
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    I was reading about these wifi light dimmers the other day, and I think that if MS could implement features like these, then Kinect would become a must have feature for me (eventually).
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    gdjman68wasdigigdjman68wasdigi Posts: 21,705
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    gillyallan wrote: »
    Yeah thats what red Arrow has been saying, which is frustrating if you had bought into it and hoped something AAA would come out.

    Hopefully Sony don't try to be smart asses about it. They need to devote their time to fixing the shody fw they released, as well as coming good on what they promised before release.

    just while i think on..

    when playing a BD, you decide to press the ps button, didnt it used to say

    "do you want to stop playing the disc?"

    that seems to have disappeared..and you just get a black screen.

    or is that just me?
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    gillyallangillyallan Posts: 31,723
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    Not sure digi. I've yet to play a bluray on my ps4. I only own about 4 as don't buy them any more
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    Danger CloseDanger Close Posts: 3,281
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    sithlord3k wrote: »
    If they reversed it before launch, then they should have given people the chance to buy the console kinectless.

    I'm not saying they shouldn't have. I didn't want the Kinect (that's why I never connected it) and would much preferred to pay less for the solus. But I've never had a problem with the console and have had 7 months of entertainment. So I can't complain about any price drops or Kinectless bundles now, it's too late for me.
    Gormond wrote: »
    My point was that game developers could make it a required feature in their game knowing that every XB1 owner has a kinect but doing that now would be very unlikely.

    But then you'd get them including pointless achievements for using it, a la Forza 4 which I can never 100% unless I buy or borrow a Kinect 1.0.
    And what about multi-plats? Do they have to include coding for the PS Eye too?
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    gdjman68wasdigigdjman68wasdigi Posts: 21,705
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    gillyallan wrote: »
    Not sure digi. I've yet to play a bluray on my ps4. I only own about 4 as don't buy them any more

    thanks m8, im mainly watching Blurays at the moment
    :blush:
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    SMIDSYmk2SMIDSYmk2 Posts: 7,806
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    This coupled with several great exclusives announced at E3 and they should close the gap.
    Sunset Overdrive looks amazing but im wanting some other big name devs.
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    cooltvcooltv Posts: 3,517
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    Well despite this unexpected news today I hope Microsoft hit big at E3 because my Xbox One is here to stay. I made a promise never to sell another console, the amount of Xbox 360 and PS3 consoles last generation that I bought and sold and then bought again then sold was unreal and there is no way I am doing that again this generation. My Xbox One is here to stay now no matter what happens but that's not to say I won't also have a PS4 before the end of the year. I am rubbish at gaming but I do love it. :)
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    fastest fingerfastest finger Posts: 12,872
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    I think £349 is still too expensive.

    Firstly, it represents poor value compared to bundles already available.

    Secondly, it's the same price as a PS4 (which is seen as a more powerful system) but there's also nothing to stop Sony undercutting the price, even by £20, leaving Xbox One looking comparatively expensive again.

    It's certainly a step in the right direction, and with the right exclusives they could sway buyers, but I think there's still more to do.

    One further thing to note re: Games For Gold - **Free Games Offer: For paid Gold members only. On Xbox One, active Gold membership required to play free games you’ve downloaded. - basically it's the same as PS+ now.
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    SpeedloaferSpeedloafer Posts: 2,407
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    One further thing to note re: Games For Gold - **Free Games Offer: For paid Gold members only. On Xbox One, active Gold membership required to play free games you’ve downloaded. - basically it's the same as PS+ now.

    So games for gold is now just a "rental service"? Oh dear I know of at least one poster whose main stick to bash the PS4 has just blown up in his face spectacularly. :D I wonder will he make an appearance?
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    fluffedfluffed Posts: 1,791
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    So games for gold is now just a "rental service"?

    Just posted in the xbox forum on this, but yes it's rental for the Xbone only (atm?)
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    Danger CloseDanger Close Posts: 3,281
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    So games for gold is now just a "rental service"? Oh dear I know of at least one poster whose main stick to bash the PS4 has just blown up in his face spectacularly. :D I wonder will he make an appearance?

    Not seen him on for a bit.

    On a DS holiday?
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    fastest fingerfastest finger Posts: 12,872
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    Not seen him on for a bit.

    On a DS holiday?

    He was, but is allowed back now.
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    SpeedloaferSpeedloafer Posts: 2,407
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    He was, but is allowed back now.

    Well I hope he is back, the place is better off with him. Aside from his Jihad against anything anti-Microsoft he is a decent bloke.
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    fastest fingerfastest finger Posts: 12,872
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    Well I hope he is back, the place is better off with him. Aside from his Jihad against anything anti-Microsoft he is a decent bloke.

    Absolutely. I may not always agree with his "extremest" views, but you have to admire his passion for gaming.
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    SaddlerSteveSaddlerSteve Posts: 4,325
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    All the people going on about the price and comparing it to the bundles are missing the point.

    The bundles have a higher RRP and have been reduced by the stores selling them.

    The £349 is the RRP announced by Microsoft however you can guarantee that stores will reduce it pretty much straight away to compete with the bundles they are already selling.
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    sithlord3ksithlord3k Posts: 548
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    I'd honestly like to ask a few questions to any X1 owners: are there any multi-platform games that you think (or know) play better on the X1 ?

    Do you think that the X1 offers a richer gaming experience than the ps4 ?
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    sithlord3ksithlord3k Posts: 548
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    All the people going on about the price and comparing it to the bundles are missing the point.

    The bundles have a higher RRP and have been reduced by the stores selling them.

    The £349 is the RRP announced by Microsoft however you can guarantee that stores will reduce it pretty much straight away to compete with the bundles they are already selling.

    How much do you see stores selling the stand alone Kinect for ?
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    Matt DMatt D Posts: 13,153
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    Three welcome moves. It kills Kinect, though.

    Having Netflix etc. behind the Gold paywall was always a joke, given that *every other console and device* with Netflix etc. let you use them without an additional sub.

    MS really needs to do something with the UI, though, now. It can no longer just assume that people will use voice control instead of drilling down through the menus. Bring back the Guide!

    Also...

    - Auto sign-in without Kinect is a priority now.

    - Game DVR / Upload / Upload Studio need some form of Kinectless solution. How will people without Kinect record 30 second clips? How will people without Kinect use upload Studio and share to OneDrive or YouTube?

    Red Arrow wrote: »
    But would any developer take the risk now? Apart from MS as a developer or publisher I don't see anyone else making a Kinect only game in the future.

    Exactly.

    There was sod all support for Kinect even when *everyone* had one, so why would any dev ever bother at all now that it's not bundled?
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    cooltvcooltv Posts: 3,517
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    sithlord3k wrote: »
    I'd honestly like to ask a few questions to any X1 owners: are there any multi-platform games that you think (or know) play better on the X1 ?

    Do you think that the X1 offers a richer gaming experience than the ps4 ?

    I own an Xbox One and have also played on a PS4 and I cannot tell the difference game wise. The reasons why I am liking the Xbox One over the PS4 is strangely because it gets DLC and other things quicker, take the maps for Ghosts for example and i'l bet it gets Minecraft before PS4 :)
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    BrigonBrigon Posts: 2,864
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    Red Arrow wrote: »
    But would any developer take the risk now? Apart from MS as a developer or publisher I don't see anyone else making a Kinect only game in the future.

    Until VR headsets become the norm I can't see a Kinect game as being a console seller. Once we have VR headsets though I can really see the advantages of having Kinect as a means of control.
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    Danger CloseDanger Close Posts: 3,281
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    sithlord3k wrote: »
    I'd honestly like to ask a few questions to any X1 owners: are there any multi-platform games that you think (or know) play better on the X1 ?

    Do you think that the X1 offers a richer gaming experience than the ps4 ?

    I honestly don't see any difference. All the talk of 30/60fps 720/1080p both of my new gen consoles play great and look great. The earlier access to dlc is plus point for xbox whereas PS seems to get extra missions and such in the vanilla game. ( why I'm getting watchdogs on ps4)
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    sithlord3ksithlord3k Posts: 548
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    I honestly don't see any difference. All the talk of 30/60fps 720/1080p both of my new gen consoles play great and look great. The earlier access to dlc is plus point for xbox whereas PS seems to get extra missions and such in the vanilla game. ( why I'm getting watchdogs on ps4)

    So, with you owning both consoles, which one do you have the majority of multi-platforms on ?
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