Dennis Skinner voted off the Labour NEC
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/02/dennis-skinner-labour-national-executive?CMP=twt_gu
Oof, bit of an own goal that.
Oof, bit of an own goal that.
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He looked drunk. Is he standing down next year?
Dimwitted own goal for Labour, though a necessary one if they wish to join the Tories in being on the right.
It is easy to understand why it required a cold as ice, heart of stone overreaction.
God forbid if the esteemed leader's barber ever gives him a bad haircut.
That could go nuclear - and it would be totally justified.
What a thoroughly nasty and inaccurate observation. Whether or not you agree with what he said he was both coherent and very steady on his feet for a man of 82 (not that any decent person would assume that someone who is unsteady on their feet is under the influence). He certainly did not appear in the slightest bit intoxicated to me.
As for Labour voting him off the NEC at this moment, that seems like a mistake imo with only 10 months until the next election.
Got any examples of him offering up solutions to anything in the HOC? . I don't think I've ever heard him offer anything positive. I only ever catch his shouty rants about posh boys at PMQs
That was my point.
He's the sort of politician who is in perpetual opposition even when his party is in power. it so so much easier to criticise, moan and heckle from the sidelines than to take on some responsibility, make some hard decisions and actually do something with your life.
At least Tony Benn achieved something in his life.
I had to ask on the off chance that my perception of Skinner might be tainted by the fact that all I ever see is a shouty old prat.
Hang on, does this mean you and I agree on something? Somebody best ring the Pope and report a miracle
A couple of things...
Firstly, he's a walking talking negative stereotype whose contributions are a reminder of all the things that made old school Labour unelectable and secondly, we're getting close to an election where it's pretty much anybodies guess what the outcome will be.
The harsh reality is that the Skinners of this world probably costs Labour votes they can ill afford to lose so putting an 82 year old liability out to pasture is probably in the best interest of the party.
Naturally I'd rather he stayed around and if anything was given more airtime, a highlight reel of which could double as a conservative party political broadcast so I'll be sad to see him go.
If only the tories would follow suit and put a few of their own stereotypical liabilities out to pasture also.
I think parliament works best when it reflect as many viewpoints as possible. You can't deny that the kind of sentiment that Skinner exposes is still supported by a reasonable (if dwindling) chunk of UK society. If the UK had a PR system I would expect some form of socialist party to win around 8-10% of seats, it doesn't seem unreasonable that they make up a handful in our current system.
And before anyone accuses me of being a hypocrite, I think those on the old fashion right should be represented as well.
I don't. that is the beauty of FPTP. no horse trading with the nazis, no pandering.
that is not a million miles away from what miliband does too.
class prejudice is alive and well.
Would that be a list with the word "Bucket" in it?