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Joanna Lumley in the Land of the Northern Lights

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9
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    was the shot of the Northern Lights real? I dont want to sound cynical but it did look computer generated. The shots of her by herself and then with the NL were totally different.
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    dsnikdsnik Posts: 6,800
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    owllover wrote: »
    I've wondered about taking that trip. Trouble is I live in Spain so I'd need a whole new wardrobe that I'd never wear again and there's no guarantee that you'd see the lights anyway.

    When I went to Finland the quilted romper suits and thermal boots were provided by the tour company
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    parthyparthy Posts: 5,408
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    was the shot of the Northern Lights real? I dont want to sound cynical but it did look computer generated. The shots of her by herself and then with the NL were totally different.

    I think so too. And like someone said before, the Northern Lights don't film well.
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    rubypuddingrubypudding Posts: 2,615
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    dsnik wrote: »
    I can't help you for "right now"
    But keep your eyes on Space Weather

    Many thanks :-)
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    dafydddafydd Posts: 225
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    was the shot of the Northern Lights real? I dont want to sound cynical but it did look computer generated. The shots of her by herself and then with the NL were totally different.

    Filming the aurora is no different to photographing other night-sky objects - in order to increase the contrast and make the object it stand out, you need to take long exposures. It's the same technique as time-lapse photography (in fact they might well have taken hundreds of still pictures on a digital camera and ran them as a sequence). For example, you might compress 10 minutes recording time into 1 minute real time. You don't need CGI.

    If you look at Joanna in some of the shots, her profile is jumping about ever so slightly, which might suggest that she is having to stand very still for a long time while they get the shot.

    Have a look here to see a good example of timelapse footage of the aurora.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 696
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    Great program!

    Joanna Lumley, Northern Lights, and Greig's Peer Gynt suite (my favourite!) featured throughout, sometimes the music being more effective than at other times.

    Joanna's charm, humility and genuine enthusiasm made this show a delight. The beauty of the Sami costumes and then the climactic lights was awesome. Well worth watching.

    Much better than Charlie Boorman's early effort on BBC2, where he just seems to delight in the good fortune to have a film director dad and be paid by the BBC (handsomely no doubt) to ride his motorbikes. Nice work if you can get it.
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    duncannduncann Posts: 11,969
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    was the shot of the Northern Lights real? I dont want to sound cynical but it did look computer generated. The shots of her by herself and then with the NL were totally different.

    Judging by the credits it was shot by a specialist Norwegian camera team of 2, probably guys who shoot it all the time, and using my own judgement I would say it was on adapted cameras/stock/technique. She was filmed by her own crew and then the 2 things cut together, these sequences are always edited out of order anyway to get the quotes in the right place, it's why the lighting on her in CU was totally different to the wides.

    I loved this programme, it was idiosyncratic, full of joy and personality, it was full of wonder and not cynicism, choc a bloc with interesting facts, I hadn't seen 25 other programmes like it, it didn't say 'coming up' every 3 secs, os show you the end at the beginning, the person narrating speaks beautiful English and there were parts of it that were really funny (going to bed in the ice palace), unexpected and breathtakingly beautiful.
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    marlingmarling Posts: 3,690
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    Really lovely programme though no money on this planet would get me in that ice hotel for a night. Brrrrrr!
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    DavetheScotDavetheScot Posts: 16,623
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    I did find it a bit annoying that when we finally got the Northern Lights, they kept cutting away to show Joanna. No disrespect to her, but what was going on in the sky was more interesting than shots of her.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,679
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    I did find it a bit annoying that when we finally got the Northern Lights, they kept cutting away to show Joanna. No disrespect to her, but what was going on in the sky was more interesting than shots of her.

    Certainly was.

    She is a bit luvvie-ish, isn't she? Still, I enjoyed the programme and the Northern Lights were incredible. Some of the images looked unreal. I want to see it for myself now. :)
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    I did find it a bit annoying that when we finally got the Northern Lights, they kept cutting away to show Joanna. No disrespect to her, but what was going on in the sky was more interesting than shots of her.

    I know. I was shouting at the TV.

    Beautifully filmed and highly enjoyable programme. I confess I had never heard of the Sami people. It was lovely to see some of their culture tonight.
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    digijunkiedigijunkie Posts: 5,153
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    Ouch, she thanked the Polish workmen in Russian :o They replied telling her the correct word in Polish :D

    Yet to see the Aurora... but have seen them in real life, and weirdly even in Southern Finland where they are really rare. Magical thing to experience, even if the ones I saw were not very colourful.
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    wombatofludhamwombatofludham Posts: 3,761
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    Nice programme.

    I once saw the Northern Lights in of all places Staffordshire from my back garden. It was April 2000 and was a very rare solar storm which caused an excellent display all over the UK. The colours and effects were fantastic, not just green but red and violet, and it lasted for quite some time. Completely unforgettable especially coming less than 12 months after the total eclipse.

    I'd still fancy going to Norway to see them though.
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    digijunkiedigijunkie Posts: 5,153
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    nethwen wrote: »
    I know. I was shouting at the TV.

    Beautifully filmed and highly enjoyable programme. I confess I had never heard of the Sami people. It was lovely to see some of their culture tonight.

    I assume you did not see Eurovision Song Contest in 1980, when Norway had a Sami song :D It did get nul points :p

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9xLMWBZh_Q

    Wow, the Northern lights are beautiful. And quite like I remembered them too.

    But very hard to know how much trickery they did play at the end... it was in a way obvious that the settings are so different on hr dark close-ups of Joanna than the panoramic ones that cought her and the lights. But I am sure she saw some there, then again she is a great actress :confused::D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,290
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    Nice programme. I really want to go and see the Northern Lights now. And I love Joanna Lumley.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 10,868
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    dafydd wrote: »
    Filming the aurora is no different to photographing other night-sky objects - in order to increase the contrast and make the object it stand out, you need to take long exposures. It's the same technique as time-lapse photography (in fact they might well have taken hundreds of still pictures on a digital camera and ran them as a sequence). For example, you might compress 10 minutes recording time into 1 minute real time. You don't need CGI.

    If you look at Joanna in some of the shots, her profile is jumping about ever so slightly, which might suggest that she is having to stand very still for a long time while they get the shot.

    Have a look here to see a good example of timelapse footage of the aurora.

    Yep. We noticed the slight changes in her outline and guessed it was a mix of some kind or at least, there was some difficult camera work to be overcome. TV background here, but wasn't sure about the northern lights and how it is filmed but your explanation kind of clears up our conversation from last night. We had thought they had chroma keyed her in due to the long exposure time or something along those lines. We noted the sky above didn't blur/jump at the moment her outline did which suggested something afoot.

    That said, we loved this show. Joanna is fantastic. We now want to go and see the lights too, and to see the beautiful snowy north. :)
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    JeffG1JeffG1 Posts: 15,278
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    nethwen wrote: »
    I confess I had never heard of the Sami people.

    Probably because you know them as Lapps, living in what we call Lapland. This was explained in the programme, I think, and also in RT.

    Apparently, Lapp is now a derogatory term, which I didn't know before.

    Really enjoyed this programme - the scenery was stunning, though JL (bless her) is a bit OTT sometimes. ;)
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    rolergirlrolergirl Posts: 5,205
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    i did wonder if she was wearing real fur,as shes involved in a lot of animal rights charities.
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    rolergirl wrote: »
    i did wonder if she was wearing real fur,as shes involved in a lot of animal rights charities.

    No, she said when she was talking about the cod, something about being a vegetarian, fake-fur wearer.

    I throughly enjoyed the programme. I could listen to La Lumley read the phone book, & she managed to charm everyone she met.

    I did see her interviewed on Richard & Judy a couple of weeks ago & she mentioned something about the difficulties of filming the Northern Lights, which probably explained why it looked a bit strange on screen.
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    nwhitfieldnwhitfield Posts: 4,556
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    This is what it says in the stuff from the BBC press office, quoting Ms Lumley:

    "It's not earthly light, these are solar atoms hurtling past and getting sucked in by the magnetic force of the world, you have to slow the camera apertures right down to get enough of this extraordinary light in. I had to stand as still as a rock, with the wind blowing and buffeting, so that they could film and then later show it in real time; it's a weird way of filming, but there's no other way of doing it. I think it may well be the best film the world has ever got of the Lights, they are phenomenally hard to capture."
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    martinamerlotmartinamerlot Posts: 3,762
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    Really enjoyed this. The Sami people were lovely and Joanna was genuinely moved by what she saw, and who could blame her? :)
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    I caught the last 20 minutes or so & really enjoyed it. Aside from being a lovely looking woman I find her presenting skills refreshingly down to earth & her enthusiasm extremely infectious.

    Yes she is one of the luvvy brigade but then when you get to achieve something you've wanted to do since a child I can understand why she got a bit emotional.
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    rolergirlrolergirl Posts: 5,205
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    No, she said when she was talking about the cod, something about being a vegetarian, fake-fur wearer.

    I throughly enjoyed the programme. I could listen to La Lumley read the phone book, & she managed to charm everyone she met.

    I did see her interviewed on Richard & Judy a couple of weeks ago & she mentioned something about the difficulties of filming the Northern Lights, which probably explained why it looked a bit strange on screen.

    thank you,i only watched the last 1/2 hour.
    i think joanna lumley seems a really lovely person.
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    alan29alan29 Posts: 34,642
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    Who's icicle did she warm to get a gig like that?
    Alan
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    Jaycee DoveJaycee Dove Posts: 18,762
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    Yep they would of had to do some cgi because the northern lights really don't show up on film. All film and photos have to be done up.

    If anyone recorded it, watch closely the house lights on the horizon. You will see that they speeded up the time frame quite a bit to show long exposure times in a few seconds.
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