No one knows what will happen yet and besides Sky aren't just gonna close the channels down immediately. They've owned Bravo for a while now and there's been no problems. TNA have plenty of time between now and when Bravo really does close to find a new home or see what the situation is with Sky. I think the worst thing that can happen is Sky honors the contract and keeps them because they wont care about the fanbase. They will stick it in a graveyard slot somewhere.
I was just thinking, for how long is TNA's contract with Extreme Sports to show thier PPV's? I only ask because, if by some strange quirk (and it would have to be a very big one indeed), TNA ends up on Sky Sports (remember this is only a hypothtical question), could/would Sky put TNA on Sky Box Office?
No one knows what will happen yet and besides Sky aren't just gonna close the channels down immediately. They've owned Bravo for a while now and there's been no problems. TNA have plenty of time between now and when Bravo really does close to find a new home or see what the situation is with Sky. I think the worst thing that can happen is Sky honors the contract and keeps them because they wont care about the fanbase. They will stick it in a graveyard slot somewhere.
It'll happen soon, because it's a 'drain on resources.' Once everyone's been found another job, that's it. Gone. I'd bet on it being gone in October.
Sky have owned Bravo for two months exactly, as of Sept. 13th. Hardly a while. It's taken them two months to decide to wipe it out. Imagine what'll happen in the next two months.
We KNOW Channel One programming is off to Sky1. That'll include Dog, and probably Spartacus, if there is another one. TNA won't go over because the WWE is there. It's on Sky2 also!
One thing I do find ironic myself, is how Bravo showed WCW at the end, ECW at the end, and now it's at the end as TNA thrives.
This isn't just about TNA, personally. It's about the bloody women getting all the TV again. Seriously, ESPN, Sky Sports and Extreme Sports. That's ALL we have, and we have to pay through the nose for it.
I really hope Spike TV come over and bring a load of programming with them. It's owned by the same people as Comedy Central (MTV Networks, Viacom) and that has proven to be a hit over here. I really think that would be an option.
"..and our long term contract with the Living TV Group,"
LONG TERM ...
Anyone who believes anything TNA say in this kind of release should be forced to watch Dixie insist Scott Hall was clean on the you shoot dvd over and over again till their mind melts.
Edit: I guess what I'm saying is there'd be get out clauses in these contracts on both sides; there always are.
I guess what I'm saying is there'd be get out clauses in these contracts on both sides; there always are.
Well obviously, but I fail to see the point of publicly lying about a TV Deal, especially since the UK is their strongest market.
Nothing is going to happen until early next year anyway, so does everyone really want to spend the next 3 months wildly speculating ?
At the end of the day, you just need to think logically. Impact draws big ratings in the UK so whoever is overseeing the channel closures will already be aware of this and will most likely have a remit to prioritise the higher rated programs over the other ones.
The only way I can ever see them pulling the plug on Impact is if this mythical exclusivity clause exists with the WWE.
Nothing is going to happen until early next year anyway, so does everyone really want to spend the next 3 months wildly speculating ?
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Jason, where did you hear this? Been looking for timescales as to when they are closing the channel but have had no response from Bravo or Living TV group and nothing in the press releases/news articles i've read. Have they given a date somewhere?
I would love a spike TV channel in the UK. Some of their programmes are really good and we could get it pretty soon after it airs in the states and not waiting days or even months on some programmes.
But time will tell where TNA end up. Just hope it is a channel that has a HD version to watch. That would be a step up.
This article seems to imply that much of Bravo's content will be moved to Sky 3, which would be a great place for TNA to be what with the channel being on Freeview.
Failing that Challenge TV could be an option, if Sky is looking to expand the channel beyond repeats of gameshows.
I currently veiw IMPACT and the PPV's via BT Vision , is any of this likely to effect BT's showing TNA as am really into TNA these days and I would miss it badly .
I remember when that guy came into Channel Five he mentioned TNA as a possible acquisition. Would he dare go for it?
I would if i were him, TNA's had amazing ratings over here in the UK this year, It would be a solid addition to the listings, I'd def watch on Channel 5.
I would love a spike TV channel in the UK. Some of their programmes are really good and we could get it pretty soon after it airs in the states and not waiting days or even months on some programmes.
But time will tell where TNA end up. Just hope it is a channel that has a HD version to watch. That would be a step up.
There'd be a problem with the UFC coverage, give Five and ESPN have it, but the rest should be alright to come over. All they need is a bit of the programming from Bravo, like the car-chases and all that, and that's it.
I particularly want the VGA's. Spike has a LOT for Video Gaming, something we miss a great deal over here. (Just as a side-note, the only Gaming Show available to Sky and Virgin is on Bravo, so that's going as well.)
I'm sure i read it somewhere that it was unlikely that the channels would close until the end of the year. If I can find it, i'll post it ..
I think it's in the Guardian article, but the thing is, unless they want to be scrambling around, last minute, like they did with the PPV's, they need to start sorting it out NOW.
I currently veiw IMPACT and the PPV's via BT Vision , is any of this likely to effect BT's showing TNA as am really into TNA these days and I would miss it badly .
No. TNA give it directly to BT, whereas TNA give their programme to RDA who give it to Bravo.
If anything, TNA could learn something from the BT deal, and get it on an On Demand platform, along with possibly the Xbox Live Marketplace (they already do this in America) and PSN.
I would if i were him, TNA's had amazing ratings over here in the UK this year, It would be a solid addition to the listings, I'd def watch on Channel 5.
I don't remember this new guy saying anything about TNA. Someone needs to link me up for this.
It's not a Sky-branded channel, it's male demo is similar to Bravo, and its programming is equally blokey.
FX is not as widely available than Bravo but it's a damn sight better than Extreme Sports.
Sure it is. FX is available on every platform Bravo is available on, as far as I know. The only downside, is that FX is more highly regarded by the negotiators compared to Bravo. It's on the XL package for Virgin.
I just don't see FX as an attractive proposition for TNA. FX is drama from beginning to end, then some softcore porn mixed in. TNA is a pre-determined, poorly written cartoon compared to the likes of the X-Files, Buffy, NCIS, etc. Nothing sporty is shown on there. Nothing athletic. Nothing even with a live-feel to it. It's not larger-than-life. It's more Sci-fi than anything, aside from stuff like To Catch a Predator.
On the flip-side of the coin, Sky's higher ups could easily be in touch with a channel like FX to get it a deal, if they so cared. But I predict a pay-off from Sky to get out of the contract early, and for TNA to scramble about, in true TNA-cowboy fashion, looking for someone to air their programme. It'll be a little easier this time, compared to when it was on Bravo2 years ago, though. Just listing people on the roster is enough.
I'd like to think that maybe a TV deal on FX would make them look a little more serious in the writing dept., but I doubt it would. Not only do FX not have a say in how TNA is written, but Russo is so far up Dixie's hoo-hoo that if a TV network was to say something about the writing, she'd probably tell them to naff off and continue with the current cartoon-writers currently at the helm.
FYI News corp are trying to buy BSkyB,but the offer was turned down.Anyway TNA isnt going anywhere soon..
Urgh. No offer has been 'turned down,' man. No offer has been submitted yet. How do I know this? Because OFCOM, the Competition Commission and the Government HAVE to be notified with an official letter of intent from News Corp. regarding their interest in BSkyB.
The only thing that is stopping Murdoch from buying the other 61% of the company that he doesn't own, is the aforementioned groups, due to the fact that IF Murdoch bought BSkyB, it would give him way too much power in the British Media sector. Which makes me think that sooner or later, it WILL happen, be it under his name, under a different group or under his sons. Murdoch, News Corp. and BSkyB are VERY clever when it comes to this sort of stuff. Remember the whole Virgin Media TV / ITV deal that was scuppered because Sky decided they wanted 17.9% of ITV? Then Sky were told to sell?
Imagine. If VMTV had bought ITV, there's a possibility TNA programming could have ended up on one of the ITV channels. Good ol' Sky f*cked that up for us...
Also, yes, TNA IS going somewhere. it's mid-September now. Three full months, if we believe what has floated around about end-of-2010 shut-downs, and TNA is homeless. Sky WON'T keep it, in my opinion. If they wanted it, they could have had it previously. They have shown no interest, and have backed WWE strongly when it comes to Pro-Wrestling. All the evidence points to TNA needing to go, or to look, elsewhere.
Urgh. No offer has been 'turned down,' man. No offer has been submitted yet. How do I know this? Because OFCOM, the Competition Commission and the Government HAVE to be notified with an official letter of intent from News Corp. regarding their interest in BSkyB.
Bartering. Yes. Not cash-on-the-table. They're in the process of negotiating a buy-out, which the Govt. would have to approve. So they are in the middle of talks regarding a buy-out, if you want to be pedantic about the whole thing.
It's a ball-park figure stated to get the attention of the selling party. They say 'no,' he comes back with a better figure. That's how these things work.
I was just thinking, for how long is TNA's contract with Extreme Sports to show thier PPV's? I only ask because, if by some strange quirk (and it would have to be a very big one indeed), TNA ends up on Sky Sports (remember this is only a hypothtical question), could/would Sky put TNA on Sky Box Office?
I doubt that they would, as the buy rate I don't think would be all that good, but it would still be better than not having any income.
I'm guessing Extreme Sports isn't on a Virgin or Sky package?!? I did wonder why they weren't being shown on Bravo 2 anymore! So what on earth has happened to the Channel 1 / Bravo channels? :eek:
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DtBH will end up on Sky1, as are a majority of Channel One programmes. TNA won't.
12 Months, or so I'm led to believe.
You do know that FX is short for FOX, which is News International - the owners of BSkyB, who own Sky, don't you?
I'd pay, but I wouldn't pay that much. I've never understood the logic of people who pay £15-£20 for a PPV that'll be out in 3 Months on DVD at £12.
Urgh. There's been two separate owners of Five since then. Who's to say they wouldn't make a really good go of it? And even then, it'd be crowd shots!
It'll happen soon, because it's a 'drain on resources.' Once everyone's been found another job, that's it. Gone. I'd bet on it being gone in October.
Sky have owned Bravo for two months exactly, as of Sept. 13th. Hardly a while. It's taken them two months to decide to wipe it out. Imagine what'll happen in the next two months.
We KNOW Channel One programming is off to Sky1. That'll include Dog, and probably Spartacus, if there is another one. TNA won't go over because the WWE is there. It's on Sky2 also!
One thing I do find ironic myself, is how Bravo showed WCW at the end, ECW at the end, and now it's at the end as TNA thrives.
This isn't just about TNA, personally. It's about the bloody women getting all the TV again. Seriously, ESPN, Sky Sports and Extreme Sports. That's ALL we have, and we have to pay through the nose for it.
I really hope Spike TV come over and bring a load of programming with them. It's owned by the same people as Comedy Central (MTV Networks, Viacom) and that has proven to be a hit over here. I really think that would be an option.
Anyone who believes anything TNA say in this kind of release should be forced to watch Dixie insist Scott Hall was clean on the you shoot dvd over and over again till their mind melts.
Edit: I guess what I'm saying is there'd be get out clauses in these contracts on both sides; there always are.
FX is fully owne by news corp,sky are not.FX can show what ever they want
Well obviously, but I fail to see the point of publicly lying about a TV Deal, especially since the UK is their strongest market.
Nothing is going to happen until early next year anyway, so does everyone really want to spend the next 3 months wildly speculating ?
At the end of the day, you just need to think logically. Impact draws big ratings in the UK so whoever is overseeing the channel closures will already be aware of this and will most likely have a remit to prioritise the higher rated programs over the other ones.
The only way I can ever see them pulling the plug on Impact is if this mythical exclusivity clause exists with the WWE.
Jason, where did you hear this? Been looking for timescales as to when they are closing the channel but have had no response from Bravo or Living TV group and nothing in the press releases/news articles i've read. Have they given a date somewhere?
But time will tell where TNA end up. Just hope it is a channel that has a HD version to watch. That would be a step up.
I'm sure i read it somewhere that it was unlikely that the channels would close until the end of the year. If I can find it, i'll post it ..
This article seems to imply that much of Bravo's content will be moved to Sky 3, which would be a great place for TNA to be what with the channel being on Freeview.
Failing that Challenge TV could be an option, if Sky is looking to expand the channel beyond repeats of gameshows.
I would if i were him, TNA's had amazing ratings over here in the UK this year, It would be a solid addition to the listings, I'd def watch on Channel 5.
It's all well and good saying "watch on channel 5" for Impact, because there's no way it will happen unless Sky cancel the contract.
And if Sky are willing to pay TNA a chunk of change to do that, then fine, speculate all you like.
But until then, Impact is going nowhere, other than probably Sky 2 or 3.
It's not a Sky-branded channel, it's male demo is similar to Bravo, and its programming is equally blokey.
FX is not as widely available than Bravo but it's a damn sight better than Extreme Sports.
Sky are in the process of being bought out completely by News Corp., FYI. FX are owned by FOX International, who are owned by News Corp.
FX show a LOT of FOX stuff. Granted, there's a few CBS programmes on there also, etc, but the fact remains.
There'd be a problem with the UFC coverage, give Five and ESPN have it, but the rest should be alright to come over. All they need is a bit of the programming from Bravo, like the car-chases and all that, and that's it.
I particularly want the VGA's. Spike has a LOT for Video Gaming, something we miss a great deal over here. (Just as a side-note, the only Gaming Show available to Sky and Virgin is on Bravo, so that's going as well.)
I think it's in the Guardian article, but the thing is, unless they want to be scrambling around, last minute, like they did with the PPV's, they need to start sorting it out NOW.
No. TNA give it directly to BT, whereas TNA give their programme to RDA who give it to Bravo.
If anything, TNA could learn something from the BT deal, and get it on an On Demand platform, along with possibly the Xbox Live Marketplace (they already do this in America) and PSN.
I don't remember this new guy saying anything about TNA. Someone needs to link me up for this.
Sure it is. FX is available on every platform Bravo is available on, as far as I know. The only downside, is that FX is more highly regarded by the negotiators compared to Bravo. It's on the XL package for Virgin.
I just don't see FX as an attractive proposition for TNA. FX is drama from beginning to end, then some softcore porn mixed in. TNA is a pre-determined, poorly written cartoon compared to the likes of the X-Files, Buffy, NCIS, etc. Nothing sporty is shown on there. Nothing athletic. Nothing even with a live-feel to it. It's not larger-than-life. It's more Sci-fi than anything, aside from stuff like To Catch a Predator.
On the flip-side of the coin, Sky's higher ups could easily be in touch with a channel like FX to get it a deal, if they so cared. But I predict a pay-off from Sky to get out of the contract early, and for TNA to scramble about, in true TNA-cowboy fashion, looking for someone to air their programme. It'll be a little easier this time, compared to when it was on Bravo2 years ago, though. Just listing people on the roster is enough.
I'd like to think that maybe a TV deal on FX would make them look a little more serious in the writing dept., but I doubt it would. Not only do FX not have a say in how TNA is written, but Russo is so far up Dixie's hoo-hoo that if a TV network was to say something about the writing, she'd probably tell them to naff off and continue with the current cartoon-writers currently at the helm.
FYI News corp are trying to buy BSkyB,but the offer was turned down.Anyway TNA isnt going anywhere soon..
Urgh. No offer has been 'turned down,' man. No offer has been submitted yet. How do I know this? Because OFCOM, the Competition Commission and the Government HAVE to be notified with an official letter of intent from News Corp. regarding their interest in BSkyB.
The only thing that is stopping Murdoch from buying the other 61% of the company that he doesn't own, is the aforementioned groups, due to the fact that IF Murdoch bought BSkyB, it would give him way too much power in the British Media sector. Which makes me think that sooner or later, it WILL happen, be it under his name, under a different group or under his sons. Murdoch, News Corp. and BSkyB are VERY clever when it comes to this sort of stuff. Remember the whole Virgin Media TV / ITV deal that was scuppered because Sky decided they wanted 17.9% of ITV? Then Sky were told to sell?
Imagine. If VMTV had bought ITV, there's a possibility TNA programming could have ended up on one of the ITV channels. Good ol' Sky f*cked that up for us...
Also, yes, TNA IS going somewhere. it's mid-September now. Three full months, if we believe what has floated around about end-of-2010 shut-downs, and TNA is homeless. Sky WON'T keep it, in my opinion. If they wanted it, they could have had it previously. They have shown no interest, and have backed WWE strongly when it comes to Pro-Wrestling. All the evidence points to TNA needing to go, or to look, elsewhere.
The share holders turned down News corps offer http://http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jun/14/bskyb-news-corporation-takeover-bid so they are not in the middle of a take over.
Bartering. Yes. Not cash-on-the-table. They're in the process of negotiating a buy-out, which the Govt. would have to approve. So they are in the middle of talks regarding a buy-out, if you want to be pedantic about the whole thing.
It's a ball-park figure stated to get the attention of the selling party. They say 'no,' he comes back with a better figure. That's how these things work.
I'm guessing Extreme Sports isn't on a Virgin or Sky package?!? I did wonder why they weren't being shown on Bravo 2 anymore! So what on earth has happened to the Channel 1 / Bravo channels? :eek: