I'm old enough, yes - 31. I pay tax too. I'm, like, a proper grown up lol... Anyway, I'd say, on the contrary, that most people either think left or think right and vote accordingly. Most don't vote over one or two policies. I suppose you'd have to conduct a survey to know this for sure. Of all my friends, though, if you ask them why they vote, they don't name policies that they liked from the manifestos. They just always vote the same because that party's ideas traditionally reflects their own.
That's a shame, if more people read the policies, and they should because they do change quite frequently on all sides, and took more of an interest in them when voting, I think we'd all be in a better position. Parties wouldn't be able to get away with breaking those policies so easily.
i dont get some peoples negative obsession with the tories. i interned for one of their candidates for over a year, and got to know many of the hardcore tory types and they were just normal. i'm a centrist so i'm not really into tribal politics- if you look closely enough at lib dem, labour, tory manifestos they are all very similar on the main issues and only differ on taking particular attitudes to things such as tax, economy, nhs budget, immigrants etc.
if a person wants to vote for the tories because they like their economic policies, or xxx policy, what is wrong with that? and why does class and socio-economic status keep having to come into it? when i went for another internship at a place which worked with refugees, the woman that was interviewing me kept asking me about 'which party' my candidate was from and when i said conservative i could tell she judged me.
why is that even allowed? so if i'd have said labour or lib dem she'd have been fine- i find it really weird how people think people who vote tory are somehow right wing.
There's nothing wrong with it, we're just gossiping
But class most certainly does come into it. Traditionally, at least. People hold on to old ideas and prejudices.
That's a shame, if more people read the policies, and they should because they do change quite frequently on all sides, and took more of an interest in them when voting, I think we'd all be in a better position. Parties wouldn't be able to get away with breaking those policies so easily.
Not sure that would have helped when deciding whether to vote Conservative or Lib Dems this time around, although I know what you're saying; that perhaps they wouldn't meddle with policies post election. I don't really agree with you though. The Labour policies always lean to the left and the Conservatives always to the right. Otherwise, I think the whole system would get very confusing.
Soo - Lib Dem
Sweep - Monster Raving Loony party
Bob the Builder - BNP
Postman Pat - Labour
Oops A Daisy - Green party
The Flumps - Socialist Workers Party
Not at all. I live in an area that would still be Tory if they put a puppet up as the new MP and it's certainly not a 'toff' area. Tbh, I have never heard anyone use that expression apart from on DS since I was about 12.
I would say a typical Tory is someone with aspiration and who wants a bit more out of life than a dead end job, state hand outs and a council house.
While I still think he's excellent on MasterChef, I find Michel Roux Jr's right wing politics distasteful. He also bangs on about young people being lazy, which is pretty rich coming from someone who had his wealthy restaurateur family behind him his whole life.
Carol Vordeman
Adam Rickett
Michael Caine
Kirsty and Phil
Phil Collins
Joan Collins
Antony Worrell Thompson
Paul Daniels
Bryan Ferry
Marco Pierre White
Peter Striingfellow
David ' Burger' Van Day
Tony Hadley
Bill Roache
Suspects:
Alan Titmarsh
Fern Briton
Philip Schofield Simon Cowell
Cliff Richard
Paul O'Grady
Brucie Gary Barlow
Jeremy Clarkson and chums
There's loads more, these just off the top of my head.
I'd be confident in betting that the ones in bold definitely vote Conservative.
Paul O'Grady definately Labour - think LWT, the Lords and the Dark Knight
POG is deffo anti Tory. He was on Loose Women on the day that Thatcher died, or soon after. He was practically foaming at the mouth with his disregard for her.
Don't get the fuss if they are the Tories and Post-Blair Labour are practically the same party anyway, both just stick in the middle and are afraid to make a bold step to the right or left in fear of upsetting your 'average Joe' voter.
Don't get the fuss if they are the Tories and Post-Blair Labour are practically the same party anyway, both just stick in the middle and are afraid to make a bold step to the right or left in fear of upsetting your 'average Joe' voter.
Basically this. Lib-Dems have fallen into that catagory too.
Parties are content to continue the neo-con path to destruction while occasionally telling largely uninformed voters that somehow all the country's problems are caused by people on benefits
And for the most part, that approach succeeds in gaining votes.
Democracy fails when the voters don't know anything, and all their choices are exactly the same.
Eamon Holmes
Joan Collins
Ian Hislop (He and Joan Collins were very happy on Election Night.)
Jeremy Clarkson
Karren Brady
John McCririck
Steve Davis
Carol Vordeman
James May
David Starkey
Evan Davis
David and Victoria Beckham
Cliff Richard
Guy Ritchie
Peter Hitchins
Bob Geldof
Don't get the fuss if they are the Tories and Post-Blair Labour are practically the same party anyway, both just stick in the middle and are afraid to make a bold step to the right or left in fear of upsetting your 'average Joe' voter.
More evidence of this revealed today...just been stated in court that Tony Blair advised Rebecca Brooks before her hacking trial...you know that same Rebecca Brooks who goes out horse riding with David Cameron, and previously worked for the Murdoch's...its all one big (elitist) happy family that every 5 years dresses in Red or Blue to try and kid the public that they actually have a choice.
Don't get the fuss if they are the Tories and Post-Blair Labour are practically the same party anyway, both just stick in the middle and are afraid to make a bold step to the right or left in fear of upsetting your 'average Joe' voter.
Do you remember what happened when Labour's leader was Michael Foot? In 1983 they had the lowest share of the vote in any general election since 1918. That was because Labour had adopted a very left-wing stance.
Conventional wisdom suggests that elections are won and lost by attracting floating voters. Those who are wedded to their party for life will never shift.
POG is deffo anti Tory. He was on Loose Women on the day that Thatcher died, or soon after. He was practically foaming at the mouth with his disregard for her.
Pity I missed that, it doesn't surprise me as he's highly critical of some coalition policies and hasn't forgotten his working class roots.
Andrew Lloyd Webber( or was it Tim Rice ) threatened to leave Britain if Labour won in 1997.
Ian Hislop (He and Joan Collins were very happy on Election Night.)
I think he was outted as a Lib Dem voter - I'm sure I read an interview with him along those lines, but it was a long time ago, definitely pre-coalition.
He's certainly wasn't a Tory voter; William Hague pressed him on who he'd voted for on HIGNFY once and whilst Hislop dodged the question by pointing out it was a secret ballot, he did take great delight in saying he hadn't voted for Hague's party. But then again people (and parties) change so perhaps he has developed his political views in the direction of the Conservatives?
Eamon Holmes
Joan Collins
Ian Hislop (He and Joan Collins were very happy on Election Night.)
Jeremy Clarkson
Karren Brady
John McCririck
Steve Davis
Carol Vordeman
James May
David Starkey
Evan Davis
David and Victoria Beckham
Cliff Richard
Guy Ritchie
Peter Hitchins
Bob Geldof
Most wealthy people vote Tory as they are likely to pay less tax under the Tories than Labour. So a lot of rich and famous people will prefer to see a Tory government, although many probably would never admit to it in public to protect their public image.
Most Labour supporting wealthy famous people are likely to be 'tax efficient' anyhow, remember the recent Jimmy Carr tax avoidance story?
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That's a shame, if more people read the policies, and they should because they do change quite frequently on all sides, and took more of an interest in them when voting, I think we'd all be in a better position. Parties wouldn't be able to get away with breaking those policies so easily.
I'm not inclined to disagree
There's nothing wrong with it, we're just gossiping
But class most certainly does come into it. Traditionally, at least. People hold on to old ideas and prejudices.
Hmm, not sure about Holly - but Fern always seemed as if she may be more pro-Labour during her interviewing days on This Morning.
Soo - Lib Dem
Sweep - Monster Raving Loony party
Bob the Builder - BNP
Postman Pat - Labour
Oops A Daisy - Green party
The Flumps - Socialist Workers Party
Very true.
Have you ever seen a happy scrounger? No, neither have I!!!!
Scroungers - get out there and get a job - and don't expect everyone else to pay for you and your 15 kids.
I'd be confident in betting that the ones in bold definitely vote Conservative.
POG is deffo anti Tory. He was on Loose Women on the day that Thatcher died, or soon after. He was practically foaming at the mouth with his disregard for her.
Basically this. Lib-Dems have fallen into that catagory too.
Parties are content to continue the neo-con path to destruction while occasionally telling largely uninformed voters that somehow all the country's problems are caused by people on benefits
And for the most part, that approach succeeds in gaining votes.
Democracy fails when the voters don't know anything, and all their choices are exactly the same.
Joan Collins
Ian Hislop (He and Joan Collins were very happy on Election Night.)
Jeremy Clarkson
Karren Brady
John McCririck
Steve Davis
Carol Vordeman
James May
David Starkey
Evan Davis
David and Victoria Beckham
Cliff Richard
Guy Ritchie
Peter Hitchins
Bob Geldof
More evidence of this revealed today...just been stated in court that Tony Blair advised Rebecca Brooks before her hacking trial...you know that same Rebecca Brooks who goes out horse riding with David Cameron, and previously worked for the Murdoch's...its all one big (elitist) happy family that every 5 years dresses in Red or Blue to try and kid the public that they actually have a choice.
Do you remember what happened when Labour's leader was Michael Foot? In 1983 they had the lowest share of the vote in any general election since 1918. That was because Labour had adopted a very left-wing stance.
Conventional wisdom suggests that elections are won and lost by attracting floating voters. Those who are wedded to their party for life will never shift.
Pity I missed that, it doesn't surprise me as he's highly critical of some coalition policies and hasn't forgotten his working class roots.
Andrew Lloyd Webber( or was it Tim Rice ) threatened to leave Britain if Labour won in 1997.
I suspect Jimmy Tarbuck is conservative.
It was Lloyd Webber who threatened to quit Britain.
Tarbuck appeared at a Tory pre-election rally during the Thatcher era.
I think he was outted as a Lib Dem voter - I'm sure I read an interview with him along those lines, but it was a long time ago, definitely pre-coalition.
He's certainly wasn't a Tory voter; William Hague pressed him on who he'd voted for on HIGNFY once and whilst Hislop dodged the question by pointing out it was a secret ballot, he did take great delight in saying he hadn't voted for Hague's party. But then again people (and parties) change so perhaps he has developed his political views in the direction of the Conservatives?
Bob Geldof??????
Like John McCririck and Jeremy Clarkson.
Most Labour supporting wealthy famous people are likely to be 'tax efficient' anyhow, remember the recent Jimmy Carr tax avoidance story?