The Proof We Live In Two Britains - A Moving Article in The Mail
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-2824520/While-millions-pay-silent-tribute-Tower-London-anarchists-bring-chaos-Westminster-proof-live-two-Britains-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html
I was so moved and impressed by the above piece in praise of the millions of decent ordinary people on both sides of the Atlantic that I just had to share it with you. It's just top quality. But don't take my word for it, take a few minutes to read it yourself.
I was so moved and impressed by the above piece in praise of the millions of decent ordinary people on both sides of the Atlantic that I just had to share it with you. It's just top quality. But don't take my word for it, take a few minutes to read it yourself.
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We also live in the most divided times he should also have mentioned where the gap between rich and poor has never been greater.
There is room in the UK for both sets of people rememberance of the fallen,and the right to protest which the fallen fought and died for.;-)
King Richard is still going strong and on top form.
Do they have a badger problem in the USA?
I take it you're a big fan of Dick in the morning then, Jeffers.
Not my cup of tea myself:)
We all know you worship him.
These threads don't invite discussion, they just polarise it from the start.
Of course it invites discussion. There is so much in there to have a view on no matter which camp you are in.
What I read was a desperate attempt at getting people to vote for ailing Cameron and an increasingly desperate Conservative Party
Then we could see who gave a shizzle.
Wearing a plastic or paper flower means nothing.
I tried, but had to give up at this bit of gratuitous BBC-bashing:
"The BBC, which is supposed to serve the nation as a whole, delights in giving a megaphone to extremists, Left-wing bigots and pseudo revolutionaries."
Hardly quality stuff from RL, but then nothing surprising there!
I thought it might be from the thread title. But of course as soon as I saw it was Littlejohn I knew it would be his usual ignorant blather.
There's almost certainly some overlap between the crowds that went to look at the poppy installation and the crowds that marched in the million masks march. (Littlefohn's brain melts at the thought.) There is nothing particularly saintly about going to look at a free installation that can be seen from the street. A lot of people who went will have been motivated by curiosity and the simple desire to see something they had seen in the news.
And no point in him fawning over the tea party as the great hope of the US. They are generally credited with making the republicans unelectable, and recent success was because the republicans had the sense to distance themselves from them. The main features of the tea party is that they are strongly white, male and comfortably off; hence their passionate hatred of anything like welfare progammes or health provision that might affect their own bank balance. No wonder Little john loves them; the people who queue up to beg him to come to the UK and be our prime minister might be suprised to see him worshipping at the altar of 'let the poor die, they don't deserve anything'.
How does he even have a job?
That kind of party in the UK sounds quite familiar...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/06/-sp-what-would-the-tower-of-london-poppy-exhibition-look-like-if-it-included-global-not-just-uk-war-dead
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/poll/2014/nov/06/display-poppies-tower-of-london-stay
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/02/bones-and-barbed-wire-poetry-poppies
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/31/world-war-one-poppies-memorial-cameron
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2014/oct/28/tower-of-london-poppies-ukip-remembrance-day
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/01/designer-tower-london-poppies-wwi-tom-piper
Hmmm, what kind of paper IS this? It prints a variety of views, allows for disagreements, gives equal status to someone who loves the installation and someone who dislikes it. No wonder Littlejohn can't cope: there is thought here, and a deep understanding of history and the nuances of how something is commemorated. So much easier to take one simplistic view and have an infantile tantrum if anyone questions it.
Anyway, that article is astonishing. It's incredibly poor taste to use remembrance day as a way to score cheap political points. It's full of lazy generalisations, cliches and, as usual for the mail, is written to reinforce the viewpoints of the cretins who buy into this sh*t. Plus clickbait, of course.
And as for this:
"Nigel Farage was reduced to tears"
Maybe he just saw someone who looked a bit foreign, the prick.
Clickbait for the mail. Really we should all use one of the sites that doesn't come up on their counter, but it's sometimes tempting just to click on a link and get it over with.
I guess the same is true of Question Time always inviting the obviously bonkers and universally derided Melanie Phillips: they know she generates a lot of twitter activity, every time; you could invite a solid panel of MP's and not get a quarter of the social media attention.
Ah clickbait. Sadly becoming a staple for mainstream media. Mail has Littlejohn, Guardian has Valenti and so on.
Where is the quality journalism?
BIB I would take issue with this statement. Yes. there is a wide divide, but I have seen that gap close during my lifetime. I feel that what is different is expectation and perceived necessities. I went to school with children whose parents struggled to put food on the table. Now Sky seems to be a necessity for some, showing that proportionately, they have greater disposable income than those in the 1950s.
Yes, I appear to be nit picking but things have been worse for some folks well within living memory.
For me, I find the article badly written, pandering to a certain ready-made audience, opportunistic. Comparing the two and suggestion that those who would like to see changes for the better - no matter how misguided or not their protest may be - in a country they love, are not patriotic. They may not be going about things they best way - or perhaps they are, I don't know enough to be able to answer that one - and I do think Brand's presence detracts from any argument rather than adding to it, but at least they are doing what they are entitled to do and expressing their frustration at the state of the nation.
I personally prefer a protest which has a single focus, I think the point comes across better - eg. protesting against bedroom tax or the abolition of the ILF, striking for better pay, a single thought behind the group protesting, rather than a generalised rant against nothing specific, which can seem rather aimless and just an excuse to hold a protest.