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Twin toddlers drown in rainwater, still holding hands :(

d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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I'm not usually one for starting threads or melodrama but I've just come across this and it's made me cry.

twin two-year-old girls found drowned in rain water - still holding hands

I don't even think anyone is necessarily to blame for it, tragedy is sometimes such an inadequate word. :cry:
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    pugamopugamo Posts: 18,039
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    Christ. The grandmother must be inconsolable.
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    muggins14muggins14 Posts: 61,844
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    How terribly devastating. I can't think of anything to say that is at all adequate :cry:
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    goonernataliegoonernatalie Posts: 4,179
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    very sad
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 36,630
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    Aww, that's sad. :(
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    Hollie_LouiseHollie_Louise Posts: 39,991
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    How awful. Hard to find the right words to say really.
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    VioletSummersVioletSummers Posts: 1,363
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    Oh god, how awful. I teared up reading that. A true tragedy.
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    Rachael.Rachael. Posts: 2,331
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    Heartbreaking :(
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    Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
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    No words
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    LaceyLouelle3LaceyLouelle3 Posts: 9,682
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    Read this earlier, how on earth did they not only get out of the house on their own but all the way to the neighbours garden?
    Poor little things, so tragic but ultimately avoidable.
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    Goblin QueenGoblin Queen Posts: 633
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    Devastatingly sad.

    Their poor, poor family. :(
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    kitty86kitty86 Posts: 7,034
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    Absolutely heartbreaking :(
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    SemieroticSemierotic Posts: 11,132
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    Very sad. Again, not sure what there is to discuss.
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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    You're right, there isn't really but it shows you can never be too careful with open doors when indoors with toddlers, anyone can nod off for 10 minutes. It just made me think of my twins and what could potentially have happened to them once or twice in their younger days. Stair gates all round I suppose but I'm not blaming anyone, there but for the grace of god... and all that.
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    SchmiznurfSchmiznurf Posts: 4,434
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    Absolute tragedy.

    I think the grandmother should be charged with gross negligence.
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    Hollie_LouiseHollie_Louise Posts: 39,991
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    Schmiznurf wrote: »
    Absolute tragedy.

    I think the grandmother should be charged with gross negligence.

    Because see probably isn't beating herself up enough.
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    cjsmummycjsmummy Posts: 11,079
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    My own wee girl is two. How tragic :( I don't get how they were left to their own devices like that though, sorry.. I have some VERY long days sometimes.. but falling asleep with a child that age is not an option.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 36,630
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    I see the blame game has started already.

    I am absolutely sure probably every parent has had their child disappear from their view for a short time, yet this time for this family it has ended in tragedy.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,660
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    Because see probably isn't beating herself up enough.

    She was asked to keep an eye on the children while the mother went shopping.

    She went into another room and fell asleep, having left a door open for the kids to get out.

    She should feel awful, her abject neglect and choice to do the exact opposite of what was asked of her is why these two young children are both dead. Had she did as she was asked, this could have been avoided.

    It's actually quite sad the oldest member of the family who apparently raised her own daughter successfully chose to be the most selfish and immature by not doing what she was told, costing the lives of the youngest members of the family who apparently always looked out for each other. That's some serious tragic irony.
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    christina83christina83 Posts: 11,115
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    How awful. :(
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    Goblin QueenGoblin Queen Posts: 633
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    Schmiznurf wrote: »

    I think the grandmother should be charged with gross negligence.

    For goodness sake.
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    cat's whiskascat's whiskas Posts: 877
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    She was asked to keep an eye on the children while the mother went shopping.

    She went into another room and fell asleep, having left a door open for the kids to get out.

    She should feel awful, her abject neglect and choice to do the exact opposite of what was asked of her is why these two young children are both dead. Had she did as she was asked, this could have been avoided.

    It's actually quite sad the oldest member of the family who apparently raised her own daughter successfully chose to be the most selfish and immature by not doing what she was told, costing the lives of the youngest members of the family who apparently always looked out for each other. That's some serious tragic irony.

    You should feel awful, blaming the poor grandmother. She probably just sat down for a minute and nodded off. That's what older people do. But you are only in your twenties, you wouldn't have a clue.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,889
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    She was asked to keep an eye on the children while the mother went shopping.

    She went into another room and fell asleep, having left a door open for the kids to get out.

    She should feel awful, her abject neglect and choice to do the exact opposite of what was asked of her is why these two young children are both dead. Had she did as she was asked, this could have been avoided.

    It's actually quite sad the oldest member of the family who apparently raised her own daughter successfully chose to be the most selfish and immature by not doing what she was told, costing the lives of the youngest members of the family who apparently always looked out for each other. That's some serious tragic irony.

    Well here's hoping NOTHING like this EVER happens to you.

    There is no blame here just pure tragedy for ALL concerned.

    R. I. P. LITTLE ONES - SLEEP TIGHT.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,660
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    Well here's hoping NOTHING like this EVER happens to you.

    There is no blame here just pure tragedy for ALL concerned.

    R. I. P. LITTLE ONES - SLEEP TIGHT.

    Well seeing as how my grandmother didn't neglect me while I was in her care and I know better than to let children remain unsupervised, I don't think that is likely.

    She fell asleep on the job and now two children are dead because their mother thought her own mother would be more responsible. Sadly she was wrong.

    I also have to roll my eyes at the subtle digs suggesting I might suffer similar misfortune or should for having a view a grandmother should have the capabilities to keep an eye on two children for a couple of hours. Yes, because I am the bad person here falling asleep and leaving two children unsupervised, right?

    No, sorry. Not going to work. She was asked to do something for the sake of her grandchildren by their mother, her own daughter, and she went in the other room and had a kip instead.

    She should feel awful, why should I? Pointing out when people fail and the the damage they can do is not evil, it's just. Should judges apologise to criminals for sending them to jail because "I know you probably didn't intend to get caught doing something wrong, but you have been so now sadly we have to punish you, sorry about that."? Pointing out wrong doing does not make you wrong nor should it warrant a similar misfortune somehow being meted out to me unless you're seriously arguing in her favour.

    "The poor old lady needed a rest, how can she be expected to take care of two toddlers? Their mother should have known better than to ask a grown woman who had raised her to take care of her own grandchildren for two hours rather than leave the back door unlocked and fall asleep." If you're seriously going to argue that, then I question your understanding of the ideas of doing what you are told, guardianship, common sense, personal responsibility and assigned responsibility over minors. This would be like arguing the parents of the children abused at that playgroup in Plymouth are to blame for letting their kids be left in the care of those monsters. Adults expect other adults, particularly those with greater experience with children, to take good care of them, not neglect or abuse them.
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    SchmiznurfSchmiznurf Posts: 4,434
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    The response to my statement shows what is wrong with people today, a tragedy happens and rather than punish the person responsible you think it's ok that she failed so severely in her duties that two toddlers died, that the guilt is enough. It's not enough, if she hadn't have gone to fall asleep the kids would still be alive.
    Whether she meant to or not, her actions led to her grandchildren losing their lives unnecessarily and she should be punished for it regardless of how she feels.

    At least there is one other person not blinded to the truth.
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    Tom_TitTom_Tit Posts: 6,336
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    So sad. :(
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