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Would be awesome if they both did a smash up of express yourself and BTW and made it a single
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Enlighten us.
The pretentious copycat one with no sense of humour but a great sensitivity to being victimised, obviously.
This. I'd rather Madonna just sang the classic without it being contaminated by an inferior song
Ha ha!!!! ^^ This!
You do realise that Madonna & her co-songwriter Stephen Bray got successfully sued for 25% royalties of the song "Express Yourself" for the similarities it had with the 1972 USA #12 hit "Respect Yourself" by the Staple Singers written by Stax songwriters Luther Ingram & Mack Rice.
Similarly Madonna has had to do out of court settlements on several of her other biggest hits:
Vogue - out of court settlement with Malcolm McLaren for that song's similarity with his 1989 single "Deep In Vogue"
Rescue Me - successfully sued for royalties as the song which she & Shep Pettibone composed was found guilty of plagiarising Deee-Lite's The Power Of Love" resulting it's songwriter Anthony Shimkin gaining 50% royalties in agreeing to remain uncredited on the track.
Justify My Love - out of court settlement for an estimated $2 million to former Prince protege and partner Ingrid Chavez for an unreleased song which had been offered to many contemporary popstars at the time including Madonna.
Beautiful Stranger - out of court settlement to singer/songwriter Arthur Lee for its similarities to his band Love's "She Comes In Colours" track.
Nice post, enjoyed reading it
With music its off balance to keep insinuating "Gaga the copy cat" regardless of names.
There are billions of tracks that have been completed & the chances of making a completely original track is like 1-1000.
As-well it's very common that most artists have initial inspirations that made them want to become an artist.
Therefore these "inspirations" echo throughout their future tracks.
Personally I can't hear the resemblance, maybe it's because of my age.
I know there is plenty of tracks I've heard from various artists that I would like "sue" for plagiarism, hahaha
Well I guess that's why there'll be no collabo then?
Good! I don't want one anyway.
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Thats a good point about the Madonna tear image in the Born This Way video. I forgot she had done that. So it seems has the media. I still to this day don't know if that was Gaga being a bitch or whether it had some sort of deep hidden meaning but now its been brought back to my attention I actually think Madonna was spot on to respond the way she has. So if anyone threw shade first it was Gaga.
haha that turns the whole thing on its head now..
Ooh that comes across as a bit babyish.
What I mean is I don't want a collabo between them, not because I hate one or the other but because it's not good for either of them's image.
I saw it as being Gaga saying 'Madonna and MJ used to being royalty but I'm here now' of course it can be interpreted differently but it wasn't really necessary for Gaga to do that as it didn't fit in with the song
Just like there is no age limit to make music.
You can be a musician at any damn age you want.
IMO Madonna need's to un-wield her head from her a**
It seems its been up there far to long :cool:
She doesn't control who can be talented and famous...that's up to fate.
My advice would be to leave it up to the judge and jury in a court room to decide,
whether who or what song has ripped off her ancient material anyway.
So, what was there to find funny about the numerous Madonna put downs? If one of my idols put me down, I'd be pissed as well.
Like said though, and its been totally forgotten, why did Gaga feel the need to dress up as Madonna in her Born This Way video and have her with tears running down her face? you have to wonder what Madonna made of that and I guess this is her response.
Its easy to say Madonna is being immature or bitchy but why did Gaga do that in the first place? When you take that into context Madonna had a right to respond as certainly looked like a diss for some reason.
It is indeed amusing to bathe in the irony.
It's not brought up because it's unclear who or what that image at the end of the BTW video was supposed to be. You can't really call Gaga out for throwing the shade first if it's not even accepted that it was shade at all.
Some may think it's about Madonna, but I know a lot of people believe it's a representation of a young, gap toothed Stefani who's crying. That would certainly make more sense in the context of the song and album.
And anyway, this topic seems so superfluously tedious. Didn't they both do a good-natured 'pretend fighting' skit on some American talk show only a couple of years ago??
If you want to play that game though look at how many claims of copying have been thrown at Gaga in just four years compared to the amount Madonna has managed in 30 years.
If you want real juice on artists who pass other peoples work off as their own go google Beyonce.
That's a neat way of trying to pass the buck but the MJ reference as well is too clear for it not to mean something..............
The point isn't in the actuality/outcomes of the lawsuits, it's in the accusations themselves. It's ironic that people give Gaga such a hard time for ripping things off, when Madonna herself faced more or less the same.
So, because you consider there to be an MJ reference there, she must be throwing shade at Madonna?
They did.They both went to each others shows and spoke of each other in glowing terms. From what I recall, it went a bit sour when BTW was released and there was a bit of a backlash when the media compared it to EY and I know this upset Gaga. White Shadow then came out and launched a scathing insulting attack on Madonna. I know Starlight called her 'a dried up old c*nt'. Then came the reductive comment and Gaga's fanbase seemed to go into meltdown and then Terry R has defaced Madonna's tour poster. I don't think Gaga is naive and I bet she knows what her closest friends have said about Madonna, I sometimes think she lies back and lets others fire the bullets on her behalf while she preserves her 'anti bullying' reputation. It's all tit for tat anyway and has been blown out of all proportion
When someone is as famous as Madonna this is what happens. Are you aware she was threatend with being sued for calling one of her tracks Girl Gone Wild?
Its tragic that people would try to use that against Madonna in defence of Gaga! the Gaga things are completely different too as you have icons like Grace Jones and Bette Midler also accusing her of copying from them..