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Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell

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    BuddyBontheNetBuddyBontheNet Posts: 28,167
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    How can he show he does magic...if he doesn't do any magic? :confused:

    True, he did at the end of the episode but his attiude before doesn't make sense. If this world was real and someone came up to me and said 'Hello, I'm a magician' without casting any magic, I wouldn't take said person seriously even if s/he had brought statues in York Cathedral to life.

    I do get what you mean. The start of the book gives far more insight into his personality than the first episode. He's bought up almost every magic book to prevent them falling into the hands of others and loves to be thought of as the only true expert on the subject (to the point of boring listeners). His self importance perhaps didn't come over as strongly as it could have. His attitude is not reasonable because he's lived as a recluse and is guided by his manservant, whilst battling against him at the same time because of that self importance.
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    madri_lenomadri_leno Posts: 234
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    Really enjoyed it... looking forward to next week....
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    Dalekbuster523Dalekbuster523 Posts: 4,596
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    Obviously some people are not made of the tough stuff you need to post in the Cult or DW forums.

    Though I always wear my flak jacket over my anorak when I'm posting on DW.

    I'm not tough me. I may seem like it online given my 'online reputation' (seriously, people TALK about me on Twitter. Mad, I tell you.) but in real life, I'm actually a wimp.
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    PlantPlant Posts: 11,820
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    How can he show he does magic...if he doesn't do any magic? :confused:

    True, he did at the end of the episode but his attiude before doesn't make sense. If this world was real and someone came up to me and said 'Hello, I'm a magician' without casting any magic, I wouldn't take said person seriously even if s/he had brought statues in York Cathedral to life.

    The whole point of the character is he is flawed and too proud and self-obsessed for his own good. He's not meant to be a hero.
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    Dalekbuster523Dalekbuster523 Posts: 4,596
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    Plant wrote: »
    The whole point of the character is he is flawed and too proud and self-obsessed for his own good. He's not meant to be a hero.

    He may not be a hero in the traditional sense but all media has a hero (otherwise known as the protagonist) according to Vladimir Propp. Mr Norrell is the only one who fulfills that role.
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    Daniel DareDaniel Dare Posts: 3,503
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    A protagonist doesn't mean they have to be a hero. It can also simply mean a central or main character integral to the plot.
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    Granny McSmithGranny McSmith Posts: 19,622
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    He may not be a hero in the traditional sense but all media has a hero (otherwise known as the protagonist) according to Vladimir Propp. Mr Norrell is the only one who fulfills that role.

    Except for Jonathan Strange. :)
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    Dalekbuster523Dalekbuster523 Posts: 4,596
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    Except for Jonathan Strange. :)

    He hasn't been in it enough to be the protagonist. Besides, it is clear Mr Norrell is the main character.
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    haphashhaphash Posts: 21,448
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    He hasn't been in it enough to be the protagonist. Besides, it is clear Mr Norrell is the main character.

    The title of the book is Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell which should tell you that the story revolves around both of them.
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    balthasarbalthasar Posts: 2,824
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    I found the book rather hard going, so I gave up, and I do not say that very often.
    The TV adaptation was far more condensed, rather like the difference between watching Moby Dick (1956) and reading the novel it is based on.
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    enna_genna_g Posts: 2,035
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    I was looking forward to this and in a way it also reminded me of Gormenghast but I loved Gormenghast and at the moment am not so sure of this one. It is not colourful literally and metaphorically as Gormenghast was and there are no charismatic characters so far and nothing to wind me in. Mr Norrell was slightly pompous and somewhat boring. There was no excitement in magic for him only his beloved books. I am hoping that Jonathan Strange may have a bit more life about him.

    The only character at the moment that seemed to have promise is the Fairy. I will watch next week and give it another try.
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    goonernataliegoonernatalie Posts: 4,183
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    Dreadful watched about 15 min of it
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    Granny McSmithGranny McSmith Posts: 19,622
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    Dreadful watched about 15 min of it

    Oh, dear, so you missed the bit where......but you'll never know. :(
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    Daniel DareDaniel Dare Posts: 3,503
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    From reviews and previews, episode two is a good'un,
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    goonernataliegoonernatalie Posts: 4,183
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    Oh, dear, so you missed the bit where......but you'll never know. :(

    I saw it few mins or so past when statues can alive and could not care less what happens next:)
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    anyonefortennisanyonefortennis Posts: 111,858
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    He should have trimmed his eyebrows while he was at it.
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    PorkchopExpressPorkchopExpress Posts: 5,534
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    Is it just me or is the audio a bit off. At some points it's not clear what's being said.
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    anyonefortennisanyonefortennis Posts: 111,858
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    Is it just me or is the audio a bit off. At some points it's not clear what's being said.

    It does sounds rather muffled but that's the BBC for you. You usually have to pump up the volume.
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    anyonefortennisanyonefortennis Posts: 111,858
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    You could see electric spotlights shining in this scene when he walked though the magic door.
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    BuddyBontheNetBuddyBontheNet Posts: 28,167
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    The sound is fine for us (not watching in HD or anything). :)
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    anyonefortennisanyonefortennis Posts: 111,858
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    The sound is fine for us (not watching in HD or anything). :)

    I think that's the problem. The sound is always dodgy on BBC HD.
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    anyonefortennisanyonefortennis Posts: 111,858
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    Is that Tom Hardys wife?
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    BuddyBontheNetBuddyBontheNet Posts: 28,167
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    I think that's the problem. The sound is always dodgy on BBC HD.

    Funny, but I got that impression and that's why I mentioned it. I'm actually watching on a laptop! :D
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    anyonefortennisanyonefortennis Posts: 111,858
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    Funny, but I got that impression and that's why I mentioned it. I'm actually watching on a laptop! :D

    :o I didn't realise you could watch BBC live on a laptop. Just checked iPlayer and it's a couple of minutes behind.
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    BuddyBontheNetBuddyBontheNet Posts: 28,167
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    Yes, Charlotte Riley is Tom Hardy's wife.
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