HP laptop won't let me in without repair?

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I can't get into BT internet this morning I get a warning my pc may be infected and I need a Microsoft 8 repair kit. I can't get this notice off the screen is this genuine or a scam? Advice please

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  • StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    HDMI wrote: »
    I can't get into BT internet this morning I get a warning my pc may be infected and I need a Microsoft 8 repair kit. I can't get this notice off the screen is this genuine or a scam? Advice please
    Scam.

    If you can, download MalwareBytes to see if that can remove it.
    https://www.malwarebytes.org/mwb-download/
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Can't get passed the your pc may be infected page
  • StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    HDMI wrote: »
    Can't get passed the your pc may be infected page
    Reboot in Safe Mode?

    Also, what exactly does it say on the screen. I've Googled but not found any malware with a similar description.
  • Fowl FaxFowl Fax Posts: 3,968
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    Do you have access to another PC?

    If you do, download a copy of Ubuntu

    Burn it onto a CD, and use that to boot up your infected laptop and have a dig around in Documents and Settings folder and look for any dodgy looking long filenames.
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Stig how do I reboot in safe mode? And foul fax what you suggest is totally over my head. Iam not good with computers
  • StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    HDMI wrote: »
    Stig how do I reboot in safe mode?
    Windows 7 or below: tap F8 repeatedly on boot up
    Windows 8 or 8.1: Hold shift and tap F8 on boot up

    http://www.howtogeek.com/107511/how-to-boot-into-safe-mode-on-windows-8-the-easy-way/
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Which key is the shift key?
  • Rich_LRich_L Posts: 6,110
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    The one underneath caps lock.
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Thank will try that now
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Tried shift and f8 right after I press power on and laptop still goes into my log on and after3 days iam still getting the page asking do I want to repair, which states will take about 1 minute
  • chrisjrchrisjr Posts: 33,282
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    Are you just pressing F8 once? Sometimes you have to press the F8 key several times to get it to work. It all depends on exactly where in the start-up process you press the keys. Too soon and the computer ignores the keyboard input. Too late and Windows has already begun loading.

    So the best way is to press the F8 key several times ensuring that you hit it at least once when the computer is in a state to respond.
  • StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    HDMI wrote: »
    Tried shift and f8 right after I press power on and laptop still goes into my log on and after3 days iam still getting the page asking do I want to repair, which states will take about 1 minute

    Turn it on
    Hold down the left Shift key
    Keep tapping F8 about 3 times per second

    If you have a laptop, the F8 key might require a function key to be held down too. Often the F8 label is in a different colour.

    If you can access the Start screen at all, you can keep your finger in Shift while clicking the Restart option on the screen.

    Also, I previously asked you to describe exactly what the 'repair' screen says.
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Stig now iam getting 2warnings one is a blue edge notice saying computer health alert fire walk has detected an intrusion on your c/window so/system32dll and your antivirus might not block this threat there is a call no 0 0800 470 1075 for support behind this notice is another one which is headed threats decreed. Norton below that I can't read because I can't remove the first blue edged notice hope all this makes sense to you
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Adding to my last thread I have just had a phone call from someone with a very strong Indian type accent something to do with my computer I told him several times I could not understand him as he spoke too fast he took no notice so I hung up, he rang back 3times and each time I asked for an English person after the third time he hung up on me any idea what is going on. iam very worried with this now
  • chrisjrchrisjr Posts: 33,282
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    HDMI wrote: »
    Adding to my last thread I have just had a phone call from someone with a very strong Indian type accent something to do with my computer I told him several times I could not understand him as he spoke too fast he took no notice so I hung up, he rang back 3times and each time I asked for an English person after the third time he hung up on me any idea what is going on. iam very worried with this now

    See the sticky, "Unsolicited calls about your computer" at the top of this forum. It is a scam, ignore them if they call again and whatever you do DO NOT under any circumstances whatsoever give them remote access to your computer. In fact don't even speak to them just put the phone down on them as soon as they call.

    It's pure coincidence you have had this call. They have absolutely no way at all of knowing that you even have a computer much less that there is a problem with it. That is not why they are calling. The only reason they are calling is to scam you into paying for some totally useless software to fix non-existent faults on your computer or possibly to secretly load a bit of malware onto your computer to scan for personal data like banking log ins.
  • chrisjrchrisjr Posts: 33,282
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    HDMI wrote: »
    Stig now iam getting 2warnings one is a blue edge notice saying computer health alert fire walk has detected an intrusion on your c/window so/system32dll and your antivirus might not block this threat there is a call no 0 0800 470 1075 for support behind this notice is another one which is headed threats decreed. Norton below that I can't read because I can't remove the first blue edged notice hope all this makes sense to you

    That sounds like you have some malware on your computer. It might be this

    http://malwaretips.com/blogs/remove-computer-health-alert-virus/

    But do not call that number as it is could well be a scam.
  • StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    chrisjr wrote: »
    That sounds like you have some malware on your computer. It might be this
    That
    http://malwaretips.com/blogs/remove-computer-health-alert-virus/

    But do not call that number as it is could well be a scam.

    That guide looks really good. I suggest that HDMI tries it.
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Thank you Stig and Chris but I have looked at the page you suggest and the first 5 steps shown I have no idea what they are talking about. It look like I am going to have to find someone to come to my home to sort this for me
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Had a specialist guy come to my home yesterday all is now working fine,it took him quite a long time to sort it all out,most of it beyond me,thankfully all is now ok. Makes me wonder what I pay avast £49 for how did all these bugs get past their security.?
  • StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    HDMI wrote: »
    Had a specialist guy come to my home yesterday all is now working fine,it took him quite a long time to sort it all out,most of it beyond me,thankfully all is now ok. Makes me wonder what I pay avast £49 for how did all these bugs get past their security.?

    Get an ad blocker; I recommend Adblock Plus.
    Don't install any software off the Internet until you are 100% sure it is genuine, and read the installation screen very carefully.
  • chrisjrchrisjr Posts: 33,282
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    HDMI wrote: »
    Had a specialist guy come to my home yesterday all is now working fine,it took him quite a long time to sort it all out,most of it beyond me,thankfully all is now ok. Makes me wonder what I pay avast £49 for how did all these bugs get past their security.?

    Hard as it may be to contemplate but I suspect the greater cause of the problem is not Avast but the operator of the computer.

    A lot of this crap gets onto computers by being bundled with other bits of software that you did want. It relies on the computer user being too eager to install the software that they pay little to no attention to what they are actually installing. ie just blindly clicking Next on all the installer screens without even looking at anything else on the screen.

    So it is absolutely vital that you read carefully what is on the download website and deselect any extras that may be pre-selected. Then during installation pay careful attention to what it says on every single screen of the install routine.

    If you are offered the choice of "Typical" and "Custom" install never select "Typical" as that will install all the crap without necessarily giving you the option to avoid it. Always select "Custom" and carefully review all the options offered and make sure you only select the stuff you really want.

    And whatever options you are presented with always read what each screen in the install routine says and deselect any options that you don't want. You will hardly ever see some bundled crapware with the option to install it unticked, they are nearly always ticked so that if you are not paying attention you get the crapware whether you wanted it or not.

    Your AV may well be sitting back and letting all this crapware onto your machine simply because you have let it be installed. Unless the crapware is actually malicious chances are Avast or any other AV will simply sit back and let it be installed because YOU said it was OK.
  • HDMIHDMI Posts: 1,346
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    Thank you stig and Chris that is very helpful advice I will try to take more care in future thank you once again for all the help over the last few days
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