If they can pass the selection tests then they should be in and if they can't then they shouldn't - no exceptions. Those tests are so tough that around 90% of applicants fail anyway, nobody is entitled to special treatment.
Unlike most of the posters on here I have served in the Forces . The forces do a fitness test called the bpfa (fitness test) which involves completing a run, sit-ups and press ups all have to be done in a certain time and amount. Also you have to complete a route march with full kit (bergen, webbing and rifle) However, the passing criteria is different for both sexes.
I've done a Commando course which damm near killed me and sorts out the men from the boys. We had a female officer at the time on the course who failed a few times but unlike everyone else was given extra attempts ( but she still failed it!)
I really don't care if its men or women in the SAS only that they can complete the training and pass. Not because of what sex etc they are.
I doubt that there's a woman on Earth who would be able to make it through selection. This is just feminist fantasy. Sure, you may get the odd woman who is exceptionally strong or exceptionally fit, but to make it in the SAS or SBS you need to have an exceptional ability of both, as well as an exceptionally strong mental toughness. If you took even a typical Royal Marine or Para, he would not be able to cope with SAS or SBS selection. That's how tough it is.
Let's for a moment assume that there does exist a woman whose genetic potential and testosterone/male sex hormone levels are high enough to be able to cope with the fitness aspects of selection, would she be able to cope with being being beaten up by her senior officers? Would she be able to make it through the torture parts of the test without breaking?
The idea is ludicrous, frankly. There's more chance of a woman footballer making it in the men's Premier League.
I find this post pretty offensive tbh. You make such sweeping assumptions about an entire gender that it's laughable.
I don't subscribe to putting people into little boxes based on their gender, sexuality, race or anything else. Unless you've met every single woman on the planet then such assumptions are ridiculous.
Jocelyn Bell Burnell
Astrophysicist who discovered the first pulsar and was the first female president of the Institute of Physics
... Fabiola Gianotti
Physicist leading the team working on the Large Hadron Collider at Cern
... Jane Goodall
Primatologist and environmental campaigner, who has conducted groundbreaking work on chimpanzees and shortened the gap between our species
Jane Goodall "shortened the gap between our species" what's that then? Proved we are not that different from other species of apes?
no one takes them seriously any more, the haven't for about 50 years.
If you have to practice for the Mensa test or an IQ test then you are defeating the object of it. You don't study for these kinds of tests. They are there to see what your level of intelligence is and your IQ level. I didn't realise you were an expert on the history of Mensa and the way they run. They are still a respected body.
I had to take IQ tests when I changed schools. I didn't study for them as I was not allowed. It was to see whether I was suitable for the Grammar Stream in my new school
no one takes them seriously any more, the haven't for about 50 years.
If men and women had always been always treated equally, I doubt men would be as dominant in the sciences. As far as I am aware the brain structure of men and women are the same so there is reason for women to be less intelligent than. Not that 'intelligence' is quantifiable anyway.
If you have to practice for the Mensa test or an IQ test then you are defeating the object of it. You don't study for these kinds of tests. They are there to see what your level of intelligence is and your IQ level. I didn't realise you were an expert on the history of Mensa and the way they run. They are still a respected body.
I had to take IQ tests when I changed schools. I didn't study for them as I was not allowed. It was to see whether I was suitable for the Grammar Stream in my new school
you're talking bullshit.
you're a year younger than me and iq tests were well and truly fazed out years before i entered the education system.
it's also well known it's very easy to bump your score up, that's part of the reason they've been discounted by anyone with half a brain.
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Unlike most of the posters on here I have served in the Forces . The forces do a fitness test called the bpfa (fitness test) which involves completing a run, sit-ups and press ups all have to be done in a certain time and amount. Also you have to complete a route march with full kit (bergen, webbing and rifle) However, the passing criteria is different for both sexes.
I've done a Commando course which damm near killed me and sorts out the men from the boys. We had a female officer at the time on the course who failed a few times but unlike everyone else was given extra attempts ( but she still failed it!)
I really don't care if its men or women in the SAS only that they can complete the training and pass. Not because of what sex etc they are.
That argument would equally apply, to having gay people in combat units.
Why does it have to a choice between superior and inferior
because one is always going to be better than the other.
Next question.
The world's strongest/fastest/cleverest/biggest man, is obviously going to be a man. :rolleyes:
But who is the world's cleverest person?
Individually yes, but not all men are superior to all women.
steven hawkings or bill gates or simon cowell.
they're all different types of clever but all men.
They're not all built like Schwarzenegger or Stallone.
Indeed, in many situations, it's important that they don't stand out in a crowd.
Carol Vorderman is very clever and a woman. Cleverer than Simon Cowell that's for sure
carol voderman's an idiot.
she might be good at doing a few sums but she's not very clever.
She's a member of Mensa and a Mathematician... Yeah of course she is an "idiot" who "does a few sums":rolleyes:
FOOL!
I wouldn't put too much stock in the B2Z books by "Andy McNab" and "Chris Ryan".
Much of what is in those books is bullshit.
anyone can get into mensa with a bit of practice.
You can't "practice" to get into Mensa... It's about intelligence. Your IQ is not something you can cheat or learn, it's just who you are.
I find this post pretty offensive tbh. You make such sweeping assumptions about an entire gender that it's laughable.
I don't subscribe to putting people into little boxes based on their gender, sexuality, race or anything else. Unless you've met every single woman on the planet then such assumptions are ridiculous.
no it's not.
you can increase your iq quite easily.
you can pracitce iq tests to bump your score up.
no one takes them seriously any more, the haven't for about 50 years.
Jane Goodall "shortened the gap between our species" what's that then? Proved we are not that different from other species of apes?
If you have to practice for the Mensa test or an IQ test then you are defeating the object of it. You don't study for these kinds of tests. They are there to see what your level of intelligence is and your IQ level. I didn't realise you were an expert on the history of Mensa and the way they run. They are still a respected body.
I had to take IQ tests when I changed schools. I didn't study for them as I was not allowed. It was to see whether I was suitable for the Grammar Stream in my new school
If men and women had always been always treated equally, I doubt men would be as dominant in the sciences. As far as I am aware the brain structure of men and women are the same so there is reason for women to be less intelligent than. Not that 'intelligence' is quantifiable anyway.
LOL I'm aware of his activity. I have seen it several times
you're talking bullshit.
you're a year younger than me and iq tests were well and truly fazed out years before i entered the education system.
it's also well known it's very easy to bump your score up, that's part of the reason they've been discounted by anyone with half a brain.
no need for personal abuse.
i haven't said anything offensive to you, not sure why decided to be so rude toward me.