Why Is The Commonwealth Games Taking Over Bbc1?

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  • NosediveNosedive Posts: 6,602
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    stevvy1986 wrote: »
    Not sure why anyone is complaining or why anyone is surprised at blanket BBC1 coverage. Everyone has remotes, use them. If your programme isn't being shown on BBC1/2/3/4 during the Commonwealth Games, so be it, you'll just have to be mature, sensible, cope with it, and watch something else. If you can't cope, go see your doctor ASAP.

    I think the OPs original point is being missed somewhat.

    By broadcasting blanket coverage of the Commonwealth Games and only catering to that audience, is it not more about the BBC neglecting it's public service responsibilities? Are the BBC not being a bit lazy by jumping on the bandwagon, a bit like they did with the Nelson Mandella death coverage?

    I have just spent the last four weeks or whatever ignoring the world cup and trying to avoid anything to do with it, the same with Wimbledon, so the tv companies have already alienated people like me somewhat.

    As it happens I am involved in the world of athletics so I don't mind tuning in to some of the track events, but then I would do anyway, as I do with the diamond league coverage or some of the athletics grand prix events for instance, so does that that not then put me in to a specialist audience capacity anyway?
  • SouthCitySouthCity Posts: 12,493
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    stv viewer wrote: »
    Actually if Brazil arent ready in time there is a rumour that it may be in London again. If that happens BBC 1 will be olympics all day long.

    That will annoy u wont it. Personnally I think the Olympics was the best thing to happen to the Uk for years and I do hope that if Rio goes belly up it comes back

    There is no chance of London hosting the 2016 Olympics, most of the facilities and accommodation are no longer in place.

    Rio might need some help from other countries but it will be ready, just like Athens in 2004.

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/09/ioc-olympic-games-2016-host-rio-london
  • Mark.Mark. Posts: 84,922
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    Nosedive wrote: »
    By broadcasting blanket coverage of the Commonwealth Games and only catering to that audience, is it not more about the BBC neglecting it's public service responsibilities? Are the BBC not being a bit lazy by jumping on the bandwagon, a bit like they did with the Nelson Mandella death coverage?
    If only the BBC had another two* channels on which to show non-Commonwealth Games programming.

    *BBC3 is being used for CG as well.
  • mikwmikw Posts: 48,715
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    Examples of 2002 scheduling

    10 hours on BBC1 http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-936.html
    8 hours on BBC2 http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-937.html

    Examples of 1986 Scheduling

    10 hours on BBC2 http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-1140.html
    1 hour on BBC2 (but they were showing cricket) http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-1141.html

    So pretty comprehensive back then too.

    If I recall correctly, 2002 was one of the first instances of red button coverage?
    Good research, and it shows increased coverage as you would expect with sports broadcasting.

    More choice with the other BBC channels now as well
  • skp20040skp20040 Posts: 66,874
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    Jason C wrote: »
    The only qualms I have with the blanket BBC coverage is that it serves to give the Commonwealth Games a level of importance it doesn't deserve.

    I've said it once, I'll say it again: it's nothing more than a poor man's Olympics.

    Like that any athletics is pointless except the Olympics , any football worthless unless its the World Cup and so on

    How many hundred channels are there ?
  • DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    Examples of 2002 scheduling

    10 hours on BBC1 http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-936.html
    8 hours on BBC2 http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-937.html

    Examples of 1986 Scheduling

    10 hours on BBC2 http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-1140.html
    1 hour on BBC2 (but they were showing cricket) http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-1141.html

    So pretty comprehensive back then too.

    If I recall correctly, 2002 was one of the first instances of red button coverage?

    ah so coverage would go from 9am till 2pm ish on BBC 1 then on both channels till 7pm ish and then BBC two only from 7pm ish till 10pm plus a today at the games on BBC 1 from 10.45pm till 1am (although in 1986 that was an earlier program and named something else).

    So as you say very good coverage and if red button streaming was also used in 2002 like you say then very similar coverage to today, except instead of using BBC 3 they used BBC 2 which at least they dont now giving people more choice than they would have otherwise had ether in watching sport or not watching sport!
  • Neil_HarrisNeil_Harris Posts: 1,822
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    lotrjw wrote: »

    So as you say very good coverage and if red button streaming was also used in 2002 like you say then very similar coverage to today, except instead of using BBC 3 they used BBC 2 which at least they dont now giving people more choice than they would have otherwise had ether in watching sport or not watching sport!

    Exactly, so in 2014 viewers aren't nearly as hard done by.
  • DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    Mark. wrote: »
    If only the BBC had another two* channels on which to show non-Commonwealth Games programming.

    *BBC3 is being used for CG as well.

    What are you complaining about BBC 1 will show the news (as will BBC News) and local news, BBC 2 will show non sports programming all day long, BBC 4, CBBC, Cbeebies and BBC Parliament will also show their regular programming!
    So 3 half day channels (BBC 4, CBBC and Cbeebies), two 24 hour channels (BBC 2 and BBC Parliament) and part of another channel (aka BBC 1 showing news) wont be showing CG coverage!

    Also remember the BBC have 7 channels in HD now and only two of those are being used to show sport in HD with a part time HD RB stream as extra on Dsat and Dcab, with 5 HD channels being used for other non sport content.
    For London 2012 the BBC had only 2 HD channels (BBC 1 HD and BBC HD) and 1 red HD button stream which were all used for sports meaning little or no HD showings of anything else!
  • Tom_MullenTom_Mullen Posts: 893
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    JEFF62 wrote: »
    Looks like BBC1 is showing nothing but the commonwealth games when it starts next week. Looks like a rerun of the olympics two years ago basically with blanket coverage morning, noon and night. Then after 15 hours of it we have Today At The Games at 10.35. Is this really necessary? I dont remember previous commonwealth games getting this much coverage. Even the Manchester one in 2002. Im sure that wasnt on all day and all evening. Personally I will not be watching a single minute of it. This is too much. Not everyone wants sport all day and all night.

    I agree it's ridiculous, I can understand it for the Olympics but the commonwealth games is a minor event in comparison. I am a sports fan but I have no interest in it whatsoever and I know a lot of others that feel the same. The BBC have other channels that they can use why do they have to use BBC 1 to cover it.
  • DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    Exactly, so in 2014 viewers aren't nearly as hard done by.

    Maybe the BBC should adopt the BBC 3 daytime thing for Wimbledon (although that could mean an extra TP which would mean extra cost for the duration of the tournament)?
  • mikwmikw Posts: 48,715
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    Tom_Mullen wrote: »
    I agree it's ridiculous, I can understand it for the Olympics but the commonwealth games is a minor event in comparison. I am a sports fan but I have no interest in it whatsoever and I know a lot of others that feel the same. The BBC have other channels that they can use why do they have to use BBC 1 to cover it.

    They are still showing programming on some of the other channels, plenty of choice available.
  • Mark.Mark. Posts: 84,922
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    lotrjw wrote: »
    What are you complaining about ...
    I'm not complaining about anything.
  • steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    Tom_Mullen wrote: »
    I agree it's ridiculous, I can understand it for the Olympics but the commonwealth games is a minor event in comparison. I am a sports fan but I have no interest in it whatsoever and I know a lot of others that feel the same. The BBC have other channels that they can use why do they have to use BBC 1 to cover it.

    What the hell does it matter if it's on BBC-1 if they have other channels watch them what is this obsession with BBC-1?

    it's just a number what does it matter if it's on 1, 2, 3 or 53 just change channels.
  • DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    Tom_Mullen wrote: »
    I agree it's ridiculous, I can understand it for the Olympics but the commonwealth games is a minor event in comparison. I am a sports fan but I have no interest in it whatsoever and I know a lot of others that feel the same. The BBC have other channels that they can use why do they have to use BBC 1 to cover it.

    Have you not been reading this thread I have several post that show that everyone has more choice the way the BBC are doing things this time, especially read my post on this thread here: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=73794993&postcount=59 which clearly explains that those not interested in sport have a very good choice and a better choice in HD than even London 2012 from the BBC.
    Also there are plenty of other non BBC channels to watch on all platforms!
  • DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    Mark. wrote: »
    I'm not complaining about anything.

    maybe you wont but you were agreeing with someone who was!
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    Tom_Mullen wrote: »
    I agree it's ridiculous, I can understand it for the Olympics but the commonwealth games is a minor event in comparison. I am a sports fan but I have no interest in it whatsoever and I know a lot of others that feel the same. The BBC have other channels that they can use why do they have to use BBC 1 to cover it.

    Why not use BBC one for the Games coverage instead of one of those other channels? It changing channels for normal programming too difficult? And it has already been stated a few times, normal programming plus popular BBC one programming is being shown on BBC Two., plus there's BBC four, and the News Channel, and BBC Parliament. So few lose out., and there's nowt ridiculous about it.

    And one of the reasons for using BBC one has already been alluded to - home competitors in any semis or finals, or with a medal hope, and the action would in any case be switched to BBC one. Same applies to the sprint finals.


    To be honest, as a non-sports fan over the past 4 months, I have endured full coverage of snooker, football, university types rowing up a river, tennis and will endure mass adulation to that great God Football again very soon.

    And as the same non-sports fan over the next couple of weeks, I might just dip in & out of the CG coverage when it suits.
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    lotrjw wrote: »
    Maybe the BBC should adopt the BBC 3 daytime thing for Wimbledon (although that could mean an extra TP which would mean extra cost for the duration of the tournament)?
    And DTT space?
  • DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    mossy2103 wrote: »
    And DTT space?

    Well sharing CBBC with RB 301 and so giving more time to BBC 3 instead of BBC RB 301 would work, as they are infact doing for the duration of the games this time! As time is still being given to Sport but on BBC 3 instead of BBC RB 301/1 the same on Dsat.
    With BBC 3 HD I suppose they could move CBBC HD to COM 8 or have it replace Cbeebies HD for a short time, getting rid of it from DTT was a bad move!
  • Evo102Evo102 Posts: 13,630
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    mossy2103 wrote: »
    To be honest, as a non-sports fan over the past 4 months, I have endured full coverage of snooker, football, university types rowing up a river, tennis and will endure mass adulation to that great God Football again very soon.

    Wow, all two hours of it, how did you cope?
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    Evo102 wrote: »
    Wow, all two hours of it, how did you cope?
    That's the point

    I coped

    I found something else to do
  • whitecliffewhitecliffe Posts: 12,147
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    Thank you BBC for your proposed coverage of the Commonwealth Games - for me makes the licence fee worth it,
  • CarlLewisCarlLewis Posts: 6,236
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    We're most Olympic events on BBC2?

    It does seem they have to go the extra mile when the event is in Scotland.
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    CarlLewis wrote: »
    We're most Olympic events on BBC2?

    Not for London 2012 according to this BBC link:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18922069

    BBC Two played a supporting role, only taking over the coverage when BBC one was otherwise engaged. Otherwise, the vast majority was on BBC one.


    And neither for Beijing (allowing for the time difference too)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/06_june/19/olympics3.shtml
    It does seem they have to go the extra mile when the event is in Scotland.

    No, not really.
  • bluesdiamondbluesdiamond Posts: 11,361
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    stv viewer wrote: »
    The opening Ceremony is going to have Rod Stewart performing.

    Also the closing Ceremony is going to have Kylie Minogue. Fingers crossed Jason is there.

    Another point is that this may be the last major sporting event the UK hosts for a least a generation

    2015 Rugby World Cup England
    IPC World Swimming Glasgow
    2016 European Swimming Championships London
    2017 IAAF Athletics Championship (and IPC) London
    2018 Womens Hockey World Cup
    2019 Cricket World Cup

    2019 European Games Glasgow strongly rumoured to bid

    seems a broad range of major events
    each year we also have

    not forgetting Wimbledon and ATP Finals, Queens upgrading to ATP 500 next year
    Open Golf
    Various Motor Sport GP's, F1, Formula e, Moto GP
    Tour of Britain cycling is now second tier Stage race (upgraded this year)
  • Mark FMark F Posts: 53,989
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    Will they have 2 programmes of "highlights" each evening?

    I remember they did have during the Olympics but it must be said most of the time was spent talking.
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