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Dog owners in Wales - be aware!
Iggyman
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In a nutshell, if your dog is in its own home/on its own land and bites a burglar in the same area, then you and the dog will be breaking the law according to a proposed new Welsh law currently in consultation until 1st March:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-20891039
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/wales/9774568/Two-years-if-your-dog-bites-a-burglar.html
Sounds bloody daft to me.
According to the Telegraph article:
"The bill was launched by John Griffiths, the Welsh Government’s Environment Minister, who was himself bitten while working as a postman".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-20891039
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/wales/9774568/Two-years-if-your-dog-bites-a-burglar.html
Sounds bloody daft to me.
According to the Telegraph article:
"The bill was launched by John Griffiths, the Welsh Government’s Environment Minister, who was himself bitten while working as a postman".
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"The current Animal Welfare Act provides for owners to be jailed for a maximum of six months and fined up to £20,000 "
True, but that doesn't apply to the dog being agressive on their own property. If, for example, somebody was being attacked in their own home and their own dog defended the owner by attacking the assailant, then the dog and their owner would be breaking the law ..... IF the proposed new law was made law.
The same goes for the dog being deliberately provoked by and intruder/visitor in its own home/on its owners land.
People are now allowed to use reasonable force to defend their property from anyone who isn't supposed to be there (burglars for example) so I'm not sure what the Welsh government is thinking of here. A dog will instinctively protect its own property and its owners.
I see that people can respond to the draft proposal by going to this web site:
www.wales.gov.uk/consultations
and/or writing to this email address:
companionanimalwelfare@wales.gsi.gov.uk
More details in the consultation document:
http://wales.gov.uk/docs/drah/consultation/121122dangerousdogsconsultationen.pdf
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You know, you're not wrong there! Let's all sharpen our canine teeth.
The 5p charge for a carrier bag is good though. Carrier purchase in Wales has plummeted.
I'd agree if the money went to local causes, it doesn't. Mind you it's easier to take the car and do a big shop and throw it all in the boot straight out of the trolley
It goes to the Assembly does it?
I've no idea.
Good for the environment though, whoever gets the money.
"The bill was launched by John Griffiths, the Welsh Government’s Environment Minister, who was himself bitten while working as a postman".
While I can sympathise with the guy, he's now proposing the use of a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
The intention was for it to go to environmental projects, but the shops just give it to whatever charity they feel like and don't put much thought into it either and just give it to the usual big name nationals like NSPCC etc instead of looking around the surrounding area for good causes.
http://www.carrierbagchargewales.gov.uk/retailers/faq/admin/?lang=en
Simply to get his name in the law changing history books, same as the bag charging woman before she p*ssed off with her big pension (it also took a lot of car journeys to meetings to make the decision)
That sounds likely.
What has the world come to, where has the rule of self deference gone, there will more likely be more death increases, because people cant defend them selves and cannot physically harm or shoot an attacker that is in there own home, because of the fact of being thrown in jail.
now they bring dogs into this :mad::mad::mad:
What are people meant to do, just stand there and let them rob the place and leave and are never found again by the police,
hitting a robber should be legalized in the UK,