But he committed the same offence TWICE, and is unrepentant about it. Whatever people think about Dwain Chambers, at least he only offended once and has been pretty sorry about it since then. But I still think it was wrong that the BOA were forced into revoking his ban.
No he didn't.The first failure was due to prescribed medication.
Justin Gatlin at age 30 - an age where sprinters are easily past their physical peak - and after 6 years out of competition has come back and is running faster "clean" than he did as a heavily doped up 24 year old. And we're supposed to believe that.
Either the drugs don't work or sports doping is still several steps ahead of the testers.
Yeah i think double drugs cheat Gatlin shouldnt have been in the race,
clean guys like Gay lose out to drug cheaters like Gatlin is sad
Michael Johnson didnt want to say Gatlin name and said something like the 'bronze medal will be forgotten' im guessing he feels the same way we do.
No he didn't.The first failure was due to prescribed medication.
An excuse from a lying drugs cheat:mad:
Don't believe that for one second.
And of course the next time he was caught he had an excuse, by saying that the drugs were massaged into him:rolleyes:
Yet he was happy to cut a bargain and give evidence against his fellow cheats. He knew damn well what he was doing, he was at it along with the rest of them.
Not totally convinced by this. Athletes don't take up sport as adults (well, very rarely), they are coached from a very young age and the adults who end up being influential in their training program is largely down to a lot of luck.
As long as someone is totally clean, however long that takes, I don't think they should be penalised for the rest of their lives.
All of the people we're talking about are adults.
A zero tolerance policy would be more likely to change the attitudes of coaches as well as youngsters taking up the sport.
Not totally convinced by this. Athletes don't take up sport as adults (well, very rarely), they are coached from a very young age and the adults who end up being influential in their training program is largely down to a lot of luck.
As long as someone is totally clean, however long that takes, I don't think they should be penalised for the rest of their lives.
He should have been banned for life as it was his second offence. I think if it's your first offence you should get a 4 year ban, after that you are out for good.
And of course the next time he was caught he had an excuse, by saying that the drugs were massaged into him:rolleyes:
Yet he was happy to cut a bargain and give evidence against his fellow cheats. He knew damn well what he was doing, he was at it along with the rest of them.
I'm not trying to justify the second because its well known that its banned but a lot have slipped up on prescribed medication.
I fully agree with you. Seeing former cheats win medals does not really sit well with me and does make the result seem somehow tainted.
I would be supportive of lifetime bans for proven cheats.
Definitely tainted. You only have to look at how interest in the women's sprint competitions have deteriorated since the 90s (when it was almost as big as the men's) because of the cloud of suspicion hanging over some of the biggest names in the sport.
I'm pretty sure I read that when it was announced that a member of the 4x400m relay gold medal winners was found guilty of taking drugs ( several years after the event), Michael Johnson voluntarily sent back his medal. He didn't want to be tainted by it.
Call me cynical, but would he have done so if he didn't have 4 others to look at?
My joy for Bolt winning was tainted by seeing him getting the bronze I must admit, if Tyson Gay had just dipped at the right time he would have had it! I noticed that Bolt and Blake kept away from him though!
You're right. He dipped a little late.
I noticed today that Tyson Gay has never won an Olympic medal of any colour. I hope he wins one here.
I'm pretty sure I read that when it was announced that a member of the 4x400m relay gold medal winners was found guilty of taking drugs ( several years after the event), Michael Johnson voluntarily sent back his medal. He didn't want to be tainted by it.
I think in the end that gold medal award was retracted as a second member served a drugs ban.
Call me cynical, but would he have done so if he didn't have 4 others to look at?
I don't get what you're on about.
He was part of a team. He had three other team members. One of them cheated. He felt that was a stain. He returned his medal.
I noticed today that Tyson Gay has never won an Olympic medal of any colour. I hope he wins one here.
Yes but wouldn't that be with the help of Gatlin? ... you wouldn't want him in your relay team would you? .. big chance of losing your medal later down the line.
Isn't Gatlin's present coach also a former drugs cheat? (as was his previous coach) I never believe that 'prescribed medicine' nonsense .. athletes know to scrutinise everything they take for banned substances.
Feel very sorry for Tyson Gay .. the Bronze medal is rightfully his .. if he gets given it further down the line it won't be the same at all.
Just to add to this, if you failed a drug test once, supposedly because of medication prescribed for ADD which Gatlin claimed the first time around, wouldn't you then be even more cautious about what you were putting into your body so you wouldn't get caught out again?
Having said that, I am pleased to see that media outlets and our pundits did not focus any attention on him whatsoever, I find him arrogant and unrepentant.
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Everyone knows he cheated so whatever medals he has don't mean much.
No he didn't.The first failure was due to prescribed medication.
Either the drugs don't work or sports doping is still several steps ahead of the testers.
Such a shame for Gay, who was far more deserving.
I noticed that about Michael Johnson, as well.
An excuse from a lying drugs cheat:mad:
Don't believe that for one second.
And of course the next time he was caught he had an excuse, by saying that the drugs were massaged into him:rolleyes:
Yet he was happy to cut a bargain and give evidence against his fellow cheats. He knew damn well what he was doing, he was at it along with the rest of them.
All of the people we're talking about are adults.
A zero tolerance policy would be more likely to change the attitudes of coaches as well as youngsters taking up the sport.
He should have been banned for life as it was his second offence. I think if it's your first offence you should get a 4 year ban, after that you are out for good.
I'm pretty sure its been checked out.
I'm not trying to justify the second because its well known that its banned but a lot have slipped up on prescribed medication.
Definitely tainted. You only have to look at how interest in the women's sprint competitions have deteriorated since the 90s (when it was almost as big as the men's) because of the cloud of suspicion hanging over some of the biggest names in the sport.
You're right. He dipped a little late.
I noticed today that Tyson Gay has never won an Olympic medal of any colour. I hope he wins one here.
He was part of a team. He had three other team members. One of them cheated. He felt that was a stain. He returned his medal.
Isn't Gatlin's present coach also a former drugs cheat? (as was his previous coach) I never believe that 'prescribed medicine' nonsense .. athletes know to scrutinise everything they take for banned substances.
Feel very sorry for Tyson Gay .. the Bronze medal is rightfully his .. if he gets given it further down the line it won't be the same at all.
Having said that, I am pleased to see that media outlets and our pundits did not focus any attention on him whatsoever, I find him arrogant and unrepentant.