The problem for me is that Rebecca Ferguson isn't really a very good actress relative to the rest of the cast - which is a problem when she is the main character.
Neither us Max Irons, though he's only been in it for 2 minutes this week.
She's basically the reason for the War of the Roses, or rather for igniting the spark which set the houses of Lancaster and York against each other. She called a Great Council during one of Henry VI's bouts of illness and alienated the whole of the Yorkist faction under Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York (father of Edward IV, Clarence and Richard III) by excluding them from the role that a previous Parliament had appointed him as Protector.
She's basically the reason for the War of the Roses, or rather for igniting the spark which set the houses of Lancaster and York against each other. She called a Great Council during one of Henry VI's bouts of illness and alienated the whole of the Yorkist faction under Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York (father of Edward IV, Clarence and Richard III) by excluding them from the role that a previous Parliament had appointed him as Protector.
It's actually getting better! I just wish the aristocracy of the time had been a little more imaginative when naming their sons. There are too many Edwards, Henrys and Richards.
It's actually getting better! I just wish the aristocracy of the time had been a little more imaginative when naming their sons. There are too many Edwards, Henrys and Richards.
It's actually getting better! I just wish the aristocracy of the time had been a little more imaginative when naming their sons. There are too many Edwards, Henrys and Richards.
It must be even more confusing for Elizabeth Woodville as she had two sons named Richard!
Given that they're not meant to have any friends, who is bringing Elizabeth and her family food etc when she's in sanctuary in Westminster Abbey?
Some London merchants took supplies in to show loyalty to Edward, not to mention being in favour if Edward came back. The news he had a son helped to keep a lot of ordinary people onside.
Just some observations on this weeks offering.
Wasn't Margaret of Anjou supposed to be beautiful?
Some pretty bad wigs are coming out now.
Where is Hastings?
Ah whatsevername guard from Camelot, only a bit part though.
Did anybody else notice Elizabeth's cushion wobbling?
I've been struggling to understand why his mum feels he has a right to be king one day. I've had a search so I kind of understand that now...vaguely... it's all a bit messy really. Maybe I missed it but I think that could have been made clearer other than it's God's will. She certainly says that a lot!
I don't think any amount of reading will help me understand how her hubby puts up with her though.
But I do think it's improved a lot...I wasn't going to bother after the first episode but I'm glad I stuck with it now.
But who is the guy who Anne Neville has just married?
The son of Henry V1 and Margaret of Anjou, though there was speculation at the time he may have been the Duke of Somerset's rather than Henry's as Henry was somewhat out of it due to some sort of mental illness (he was judged incapable of ruling which is why the Duke of York was eventually appointed Protector) for some time before and after he was born and reacted with surprise when he was told he had a son.
Not that it was specifically Clarence no, but that Edward of Westminster was killed after the Battle of Tewkesbury rather than during it is fairly widely accepted as far as I know. I know Paul Murry Kendall puts forward the theory that it was a group of Clarence's men who found the Prince of Wales after it was over and summarily chopped his head off.
I believe one of the contemporary chroniclers claims that Clarence and Lord Hastings killed him in Edward IV's presence. Unverifiable now, but another chronicler suggests that unnamed important people killed him, and their reluctance to name names does give it a feel of truth.
I enjoyed this week's episode. Apparently the idea of Warwick and the Lancastrians joining forces was was very much Louis of France's idea, and both Warwick and Margaret were at first horrified by it.
I must admit I hope we'll see some actual battles. I know they'd be expensive to do, but it seems contrary to do a drama on the Wars of the Roses and not have any. One of my favourite bits in Sharon Penman's The Sunne in Splendour is the Battle of Tewkesbury; the incident with the Duke of Somerset and Lord Wenlock is very dramatic!
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Neither us Max Irons, though he's only been in it for 2 minutes this week.
She's basically the reason for the War of the Roses, or rather for igniting the spark which set the houses of Lancaster and York against each other. She called a Great Council during one of Henry VI's bouts of illness and alienated the whole of the Yorkist faction under Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York (father of Edward IV, Clarence and Richard III) by excluding them from the role that a previous Parliament had appointed him as Protector.
Watching something else
Thanks Cadiva, I understand now.
He was born on 28th January 1457, and as it's only 1470 he would be 13.
I agree !
It must be even more confusing for Elizabeth Woodville as she had two sons named Richard!
I missed the last half. Which one is Edward of Westminster again?
Yes, and very arsey too
Some London merchants took supplies in to show loyalty to Edward, not to mention being in favour if Edward came back. The news he had a son helped to keep a lot of ordinary people onside.
A butcher named Goulding I think.
Wasn't Margaret of Anjou supposed to be beautiful?
Some pretty bad wigs are coming out now.
Where is Hastings?
Ah whatsevername guard from Camelot, only a bit part though.
Did anybody else notice Elizabeth's cushion wobbling?
But who is the guy who Anne Neville has just married?
I've been struggling to understand why his mum feels he has a right to be king one day. I've had a search so I kind of understand that now...vaguely... it's all a bit messy really. Maybe I missed it but I think that could have been made clearer other than it's God's will. She certainly says that a lot!
I don't think any amount of reading will help me understand how her hubby puts up with her though.
But I do think it's improved a lot...I wasn't going to bother after the first episode but I'm glad I stuck with it now.
The son of Henry V1 and Margaret of Anjou, though there was speculation at the time he may have been the Duke of Somerset's rather than Henry's as Henry was somewhat out of it due to some sort of mental illness (he was judged incapable of ruling which is why the Duke of York was eventually appointed Protector) for some time before and after he was born and reacted with surprise when he was told he had a son.
I believe one of the contemporary chroniclers claims that Clarence and Lord Hastings killed him in Edward IV's presence. Unverifiable now, but another chronicler suggests that unnamed important people killed him, and their reluctance to name names does give it a feel of truth.
I enjoyed this week's episode. Apparently the idea of Warwick and the Lancastrians joining forces was was very much Louis of France's idea, and both Warwick and Margaret were at first horrified by it.
I must admit I hope we'll see some actual battles. I know they'd be expensive to do, but it seems contrary to do a drama on the Wars of the Roses and not have any. One of my favourite bits in Sharon Penman's The Sunne in Splendour is the Battle of Tewkesbury; the incident with the Duke of Somerset and Lord Wenlock is very dramatic!