How many regenerations has the doctor got left?
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I seam to remember something from John Pertwee or Tom Bakers day about the doctor having a finite number of regenerations left, And had sacrificed some of them to allow timelords to die.
I have a vague recollection he was left with 12-15 regenerations!
I have a vague recollection he was left with 12-15 regenerations!
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However, this could all have changed since the end of the Time Lords. It may get a mention in the 50th as a means of putting it to bed for the future,
Colin Patterson was on BBC Breakfast at 8.55am today and confirmed this.
We have all been under the impression that he has 12 regenerations and, therefore, there can only be 13 Doctors unless something is done about it. The Master ran out of regenerations a long time ago but managed some trick to get more.
Apparently the BBC has said that the Doctor moved past that restriction ages ago but if there was some event which happened to do this I'm not sure what it was.
9/10 = 9th regeneration
metacrisis = 10th regeneration
10/11 = 11th regeneration
11/Hurt = 12th regeneration
I think the "battle-hardened" John Hurt Doctor could be the Doctor who fought and died at Trenzalore and that the 11th Doctor may know what will happen due having already experienced the events of the 50th when he was the 10th doctor.
I found Richard E. Grant's mention of the Valeyard in TNOTD to be somewhat forced, It came across differently to The Storm and The Beast. He tried to get it out too quickly like he'd been told to slip it past the audience if he could but there was a knowing look in his eye as he did so.
I'm certain the Valeyard will get another mention in the 50th.
So for now I'm still thinking that Hurt will redeem himself in the 50th and be known after that as the 12th Doctor, and that Matt's succesor in series 8 will be the 13th.
I'm also going to hazard a guess that this next Doctor will only do one, maybe two series with the next showrunner bringing in their own Doctor in series 9 or 10.
However, I'm sure they will find a way around the regeneration limit, should the series still be going strong by the time the 13th Doctor actor leaves the role.
When the regeneration debate comes up I always defer to the 5th Doctor story 'Planet Of Fire' when Peter Davidson's incarnation enters a plume of cold fire which apparently extended life - from memory.
This plot device may serve to explain if he should be able to regenerate beyond 13 incarnations.
Thought they missed the perfect chance when River gave over her Regens to him.
Why would the Producers even need to find a way. This "12 regenerations" stuff was one throw-away line in a story 30-odd years ago, yet the extremist wing of fandom seem to cling onto this as if it was the most important thing in their life.
Actually, it probably is, so just get out more and move on!
Mawdryn Undead, Its stated the that the doctor had 7 out of 12 left.
In trial of a time lord its mentioned once again, with the Valeyard being
the doctors incarnation between his twelveth and final regeneration.
And thats just the mentions I can think of off the top of my head.
Or of course with no more Time Lords about there is nobody left to control it any more.
It could be interesting that after 13 even The Doctor is unsure if he will regenerate or not
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I would have thought be now that the number of regenerations question would have burnt itself out but no...for some reason a) people can't google it and b) it's irrelevant it's not an issue apart from a quick episode at some point in the future to sort it out.
Right-oh, fair cop then. Better tell the BBC that they simply have to stop making the show then after the next chap leaves. Or if John Hurt turns out to be a *real* Doctor then that's it then, the show ends at Christmas, you have spoken!
I think Hurt will turn out to be the 12th, the meta-crisis used his 10th regeneration making 11/Hurt the 12th regeneration and something will happen that takes us into a "whole new era for the show" with a restored Doctor.
Ben Daniels for 12th? .... I'm going to say no but maybe 13th
Deadly Assassin...a script that reinvented the TimeLords over what had been done before...we are talking about a show that is based on time-travel and changing things through time - there are no fixed things...apart from the things that the writers deem necessary for a certain story...Moffat said himself way back when he was just a writer...and the Master was also given a new set of regenerations...it's make believe...it isn't real...it can be changed very easily...just like time itself...which is funny since it's a show about changing stuff through time...