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Why is New Year such a big deal in Scotland?

SirMickTravisSirMickTravis Posts: 2,607
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Just bee listening to Auld Lang Syne and I had a thought. From the outside at least it seems as if Scots are much more passionate about the New Year than anyone else. Does anyone who knows their history have a good explanation for this? Has it always been like that?

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    Rachael.Rachael. Posts: 2,331
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    I don't know the answer to your question but I'm Scottish and I HATE New Year. I haven't done anything for new year since 2011 (only reason was it was my first night out after I had my daughter) and before that 2008.
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    NX-74205NX-74205 Posts: 4,691
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    They celebrate the fact that they've made it through another year without keeling over from a heart attack, overdosing or succumbing to liver failure. :D
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    woot_whoowoot_whoo Posts: 18,030
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    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogmanay

    That should answer some of your questions. As to why it became such a big deal (which continues), possibly because it survived and thrived during the lengthy period in which the bleak and dreary Presbyterian Church discouraged partying at Christmas.
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    fainéantfainéant Posts: 2,654
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    It has something to do with the Reformation when Christmas celebrations were banned so New Year became the main time for a winter celebration.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    Auld Lang Syne is not the happy happy song people think it is
    Its about putting to bed the friendships/family you've lost either through death or fall out during that year
    I bloody hate new year and Ive never known anyone to have a party since my nan had a mega pisss up in 1974
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    grumpyscotgrumpyscot Posts: 11,354
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    fainéant wrote: »
    It has something to do with the Reformation when Christmas celebrations were banned so New Year became the main time for a winter celebration.

    Element of truth in that. It was only in the 1950s that Scotland started giving employees Christmas Day off - and that was probably as information about what happened in England began to be found out! Scotland doesn't really celebrate Boxing Day either - it's just another day at the shops, with most stores open as usual.

    New Years Day - celebration of this declining - especially in Edinburgh as more and more tourists take over the place. But its still the day for the local football derby. 2nd January is also a Bank Holiday in Scotland (unlike England) and most people in all trades are still on holiday, albeit that most of the supermarkets / big stores are open. Bus services are on very, very limited schedules 1st & 2nd January (we have one bus every three hours instead of half hourly)
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    nessyfencernessyfencer Posts: 9,195
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    It was always the bigger holiday, rather than Christmas when my parents' grew up. They would get all their presents and stuff on Christmas.

    It depends where you go though, in the cities it's not really a big deal. You get the one night, which feels like a Saturday night with fireworks added. Some cities have a street party, but it's also finished and done with that night.

    Move farther north and into the smaller towns and villages though and you will get a sense of a proper Hogmanay. It lasts until the 2nd January, pubs do not close at all on Hogmanay night and people gather in village halls to dance, drink and play music. Bands march through towns. We go first-footing.
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    KapellmeisterKapellmeister Posts: 41,322
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    Another question:

    Why has Scotland (and Wales to a lesser extent) maintained so many of its cultural customs and traditions in comparison with England?
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    The MartianThe Martian Posts: 1,610
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    NX-74205 wrote: »
    They celebrate the fact that they've made it through another year without keeling over from a heart attack, overdosing or succumbing to liver failure. :D

    :D

    You forgot, Dying from a fall on the rugged terrain while out haggis hunting.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    :D

    You forgot, Dying from a fall on the rugged terrain while out haggis hunting.

    Funny
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    nessyfencernessyfencer Posts: 9,195
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    Another question:

    Why has Scotland (and Wales to a lesser extent) maintained so many of its cultural customs and traditions in comparison with England?

    Is it because English traditions look like this?

    http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/2013/04/Rebekah/morris-dancers-england.jpg
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    KapellmeisterKapellmeister Posts: 41,322
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    Morris dancers and the may pole are lovely English folk traditions, IMO.

    I remember an impressive group of black-face morris dancers who attended events in Devon. I doubt they'd be allowed to get away with it these days.
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    Chris MarkChris Mark Posts: 4,897
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    Morris dancers and the may pole are lovely English folk traditions, IMO.

    I remember an impressive group of black-face morris dancers who attended events in Devon. I doubt they'd be allowed to get away with it these days.

    Maypoles are not just English, they are found in other Germanic cultures such as in Scandinavia and Germany too.
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    KapellmeisterKapellmeister Posts: 41,322
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    Chris Mark wrote: »
    Maypoles are not just English, they are found in other Germanic cultures such as in Scandinavia and Germany too.

    Bagpipes are not just Scottish either.
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    The MartianThe Martian Posts: 1,610
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    Morris dancers and the may pole are lovely English folk traditions, IMO.

    I remember an impressive group of black-face morris dancers who attended events in Devon. I doubt they'd be allowed to get away with it these days.

    If they had actually been a group of travelling black South African morris dancers, that would be very racist indeed. :p
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    Chris MarkChris Mark Posts: 4,897
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    Bagpipes are not just Scottish either.

    Yes, I know.

    It's thought that maypoles originate from Germanic paganism, that they were perhaps a reference to the world tree that both the Anglo-Saxons and Norse believed in before their conversion to Christianity.
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    HystericGlamourHystericGlamour Posts: 371
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    Ive never known anyone to have a party since my nan had a mega pisss up in 1974

    That must have been some party!

    A couple of points about Hogmanay:
    1. It seems most Scots will tell you they actually hate New Year
    2. Older Scots always say "It's no' the same as it used to be", or words to that effect
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    grumpyscotgrumpyscot Posts: 11,354
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    Another question:

    Why has Scotland (and Wales to a lesser extent) maintained so many of its cultural customs and traditions in comparison with England?

    Perhaps its because there hasn't been the same level of immigrants from other nations / countries as England. Plus, because there so many occupied islands in Scotland, each island / island group tends to keep up its own traditions - Shetlands are a great example of this.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,181
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    Another question:

    Why has Scotland (and Wales to a lesser extent) maintained so many of its cultural customs and traditions in comparison with England?

    It could be that England is more of a `Liquorice Allsorts` populace, unlike the Scots & Welsh :)
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    fainéantfainéant Posts: 2,654
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    grumpyscot wrote: »
    Perhaps its because there hasn't been the same level of immigrants from other nations / countries as England.
    Perhaps it is because they embraced immigrants more who then integrated more and in turn embraced and invigorated the local cultural customs and traditions too.
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