I am not offended, and nor am I from Surrey. I was merely offering guidance to the poster, to keep him out of potential trouble with the "Offended, from Surrey" types.
I'm bummed out.
Man, what a bummer.
Y'know, just bumming about.
Oh, don't mind him, he's jut a bum.
The clear context of the word bummer used by the OP obviously has NOTHING to do with homosexuality, so mentioning that particular context is just ridiculous!
The clear context of the word bummer used by the OP obviously has NOTHING to do with homosexuality, so mentioning that particular context is just ridiculous!
Neither does when teenagers say "it's so gay that I am not allowed out tonight". They don't mean gay in the homosexual sense.
But people on the internet do get offended by this. I don't see how it is that different.
I do not think you should be using that term in this way. As you might be aware, it is a derogatory term for gay men, and using it as a pejorative like this only enforces the idea that being gay is seen as a negative thing.
Are you for real? Words have different meanings don't you know.
Oxford dictionary: A*disappointing*or unpleasant situation or experience
Anyway, thanks for your help guys, you really helped a thicko out
Neither does when teenagers say "it's so gay that I am not allowed out tonight". They don't mean gay in the homosexual sense.
But people on the internet do get offended by this. I don't see how it is that different.
And if the OP used gay, instead of bummer, you may have had a point.
There is one, albeit dated context in how the word can be used to describe a gay person.
Stop ignoring the context of it's use, it makes you look silly - the term bummer is STEEPED in history that has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. That, combined with the context it what used in make your crusade ridiculous!
I do not think you should be using that term in this way. As you might be aware, it is a derogatory term for gay men, and using it as a pejorative like this only enforces the idea that being gay is seen as a negative thing.
Oh get over yourself please, bummer has more than one meaning as has been explained, the same as ****, to us in the UK it is a cigarette however if you should ask for one in the USA you may get some odd looks. Many words have more than one meaning and people should not always assume the worst , especially when the sentence did not in any way fit it being used as an insult.
An elderly man said "I saw some **** in the supermarket today"
That's a bit offensive, or is it?
He continued "they were on offer and I have not had any for a long time, so I bought some." This makes the use of the word "****" completely innocent.
Instead of the above, if he had said "I looked at them disapprovingly and told them that I don't agree with their sexuality" then it would be completely different.
I do not think you should be using that term in this way. As you might be aware, it is a derogatory term for gay men, and using it as a pejorative like this only enforces the idea that being gay is seen as a negative thing.
It has meanings that are much more common than the one you have chosen to assign to it. I'm afraid you don't get to veto the use of a word because of some spurious association you have chosen to make.
I don't support calling people bummers. Perhaps they don't say it where any of you people live, but it was definitely used when I was a lad at school.
And that's enough reason for you to demand "you people" stop using it even though they don't associate it with being gay?
Hasn't it occurred to you that your association of the word is crude and derogatory?
I do not think you should be using that term in this way. As you might be aware, it is a derogatory term for gay men, and using it as a pejorative like this only enforces the idea that being gay is seen as a negative thing.
Unfortunate thread derailment! I'd have thought starting a new thread on the subject would be a better option, given the amount of interest shown. Meanwhile, back on topic:
Meridian means noon. AM, anti meridian morning before noon. PM post meridian after noon, which is mid day? .
There is a long standing and well respected convention that 12am is midnight and 12pm is noon. That's it really, do the technicalities of how and why it came about really matter?
Unfortunate thread derailment! I'd have thought starting a new thread on the subject would be a better option, given the amount of interest shown. Meanwhile, back on topic:
There is a long standing and well respected convention that 12am is midnight and 12pm is noon. That's it really, do the technicalities of how and why it came about really matter?
What's wrong with mentioning the technicalities? It puts it into perspective.
Unfortunate thread derailment! I'd have thought starting a new thread on the subject would be a better option, given the amount of interest shown. Meanwhile, back on topic:
There is a long standing and well respected convention that 12am is midnight and 12pm is noon. That's it really, do the technicalities of how and why it came about really matter?
Strange that they charge less for next day deliver if I order before 4pm and more if I order before 12pm. Which is why I thought perhaps 12pm might be midnight.
Are you sure you're not mixing up 'order' and 'delivery'? i.e. order before 4pm for next-day and if you want it delivered before 12pm then that's extra...?
12 noon is neither a.m. nor p.m. To avoid confusion, the correct designation for 12 o'clock is 12 noon or 12 midnight. Alternatively, the 24-hour clock system may be used.
The abbreviation a.m. stands for ante-meridiem (before the Sun has crossed the line) and p.m. for post-meridiem (after the Sun has crossed the line).
At 12 noon, the Sun is at its highest point in the sky and directly over the meridian. It is therefore neither 'ante-' nor 'post-'
However, by convention, and for obvious reasons, 12 am is taken to be midnight and 12 pm as noon. As seen on any digital clock when set to 12 hour mode.
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I'm bummed out.
Man, what a bummer.
Y'know, just bumming about.
Oh, don't mind him, he's jut a bum.
The clear context of the word bummer used by the OP obviously has NOTHING to do with homosexuality, so mentioning that particular context is just ridiculous!
Eh? It's not my view, it's a thing that I have actually heard people say as an insult.
http://memecrunch.com/meme/I6AZ/bullshit/image.png
You're going to need a bigger shovel if you're going to carry on digging.
Neither does when teenagers say "it's so gay that I am not allowed out tonight". They don't mean gay in the homosexual sense.
But people on the internet do get offended by this. I don't see how it is that different.
Anyway, do you have an answer for the OP's query?
Are you for real? Words have different meanings don't you know.
Oxford dictionary: A*disappointing*or unpleasant situation or experience
Anyway, thanks for your help guys, you really helped a thicko out
I don't support calling people bummers. Perhaps they don't say it where any of you people live, but it was definitely used when I was a lad at school.
As for the use of the word in another context, I don't really care to be honest. I was just pointing out that perhaps some people might.
The thread was over anyway. The answer was clearly noon.
And if the OP used gay, instead of bummer, you may have had a point.
There is one, albeit dated context in how the word can be used to describe a gay person.
Stop ignoring the context of it's use, it makes you look silly - the term bummer is STEEPED in history that has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. That, combined with the context it what used in make your crusade ridiculous!
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/1756/what-is-the-origin-of-the-colloquial-term-bum-meaning-a-homeless-person
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=bummer&allowed_in_frame=0
Oh get over yourself please, bummer has more than one meaning as has been explained, the same as ****, to us in the UK it is a cigarette however if you should ask for one in the USA you may get some odd looks. Many words have more than one meaning and people should not always assume the worst , especially when the sentence did not in any way fit it being used as an insult.
People seem to get professionally offended to me these days, and appear to enjoy doing so.
That's a bit offensive, or is it?
He continued "they were on offer and I have not had any for a long time, so I bought some." This makes the use of the word "****" completely innocent.
Instead of the above, if he had said "I looked at them disapprovingly and told them that I don't agree with their sexuality" then it would be completely different.
CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING.
Oh! You graciously decided that for us all too! What did we all do before you came along?
It has meanings that are much more common than the one you have chosen to assign to it. I'm afraid you don't get to veto the use of a word because of some spurious association you have chosen to make.
Hasn't it occurred to you that your association of the word is crude and derogatory?
It seems you really do.
Heaven help if someone walks up to you and says "can I bum a **** off you " then
Unfortunate thread derailment! I'd have thought starting a new thread on the subject would be a better option, given the amount of interest shown. Meanwhile, back on topic:
There is a long standing and well respected convention that 12am is midnight and 12pm is noon. That's it really, do the technicalities of how and why it came about really matter?
What's wrong with mentioning the technicalities? It puts it into perspective.
And if the OP was using it as an insult I'd probably be agreeing that it's wrong.
But he wasn't.
Also, it's not a convention. It's a fact.
It's a convention.
http://www.rmg.co.uk/explore/astronomy-and-time/time-facts/faqs/is-noon-12-am-or-12-pm
However, by convention, and for obvious reasons, 12 am is taken to be midnight and 12 pm as noon. As seen on any digital clock when set to 12 hour mode.