why can't people differentiate between a preference and an assumption
Natgar
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There are dozens of posts bemoaning the warning Jemima got and her statement that she was attracted to certain types of men that were not black and I agree a preference is in no way racist BUT nobody seems to mention the actual issue that is that she made an assumption that Gina would not date white men and can anyone actually tell me how she could have made that assumption? Gina did not state her preference at all and IMO the o ly way she could make such an assumption is based on Gina's skin colour and surprise, surprise assumptions like that are racist.
If anyone can tell me how Jemima made that assumption not based on skin colour, I would love to hear it.
If anyone can tell me how Jemima made that assumption not based on skin colour, I would love to hear it.
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I know I can't believe how people have jumped onto who I am attracted to bandwagon when that's not what I believe it to be about at all.If I turned to a man, who turned out to be gay, and said you wouldn't go out with man.. It could be construed homophobic. The reason Jemkma was warned had nothing to do with her sexual preferences and everything to do wither assumption that a black girl would not date white men.
It's an issue, but how is it "the actual issue" when Gina was talking about racism before that and when BB warned Jemima about something earlier too?
Anyway, just so it's clear, what Jemima saud was "you probably wouldn’t go for a white guy.” (source)
But why would she Say that.. Gina probably would not go wont with a white guy? what did she base that on?
Jemima's assumption was the offensive part and her repeating 3 times about not dating somone based on the colour of their skin esp. to someone who wasn't white; someone she had taken an instant dislike to; made sure to make them feel isolated; bitched behind their backs and made quite a few nasty comments and then decides to assume who they would date based on colour and tell them that.......hmmm.:(
Gina jumped on Jemima's 'ill - thought - out' comments - used them to her advantage & played the racist card !!
This:rolleyes:
Jemima has, by her own admission, few criteria on her dating preferences ie anyone over 18 permissable, yet she felt the need to reiterate x3 that this excluded black men.
She just seems a very desperate woman who wants a young man on her arm to justify her still wearing her hair in pigtails.
well if what caused the offence and the warning happened after gina called j a racist
then why wasn't gina given a warning because at the point she slandered jemima, jemima hadn't caused any offence
Good point!
I cannot imagine what being called a 'Racist' on National TV must feel like.
racism
noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
I suspect the vast majority are capable of understanding it but it suits the agenda of some to extend (distort) the definition...sometimes to an absurd degree.
Your point would be valid if Gina hadn't made it into a race issue before that comment was made.
I'm the first to say that one comment by Jem was not particularly well thought out, but I'm not sure I'm buying Gina being offended. (I understand that other people may be, therefore BBs warning is fine). All in all I don't think Jem is a card carrying member of the EDL.
Assuming that Gina doesn't date white guys is a little ignorant, but not something to make into a big friggen deal.
BB is ridiculous for playing Gina's game. They should be ashamed of themselves.
The 'actual issue' wasn't that at all, because it wasn't the reason Gina brought up the discussion with Jemima and it wasn't the reason she was given a dressing down by Big Brother.
I agree the remark she said about Gina only going for white men was ignorant and insensitive and a very silly thing to say but I do think racism is all about intent and I don't believe that was the motivation for saying that. Jemima is not the most articulate of ladies and tbh I think that's where most of the controversy has stemmed from.