The Dark Knight RISES Official Thread

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,895
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    Paddy C wrote: »
    Forgive me for not being as big on the franchise history as others would be, but I don't get the significance of that picture or what it means...? Could you laborate in a spoiler tag? :confused:

    My comic book knowledge is also quite vague but I'll try my best -
    B. Gordon/Barbara Gordon is Batgirl and also Commissioner Gordon's daughter in the comics and later becomes paralysed through being shot and becomes known as "Oracle" (a side character in the Arkham games franchise) she then basically helps Batman using her genius intellect. Again I may be wrong so feel free to correct me.

    This isn't the thing that surprises me though more the fact that if it is true I'm surprised they have managed to keep it such a well kept secret. Probably cause there would be more bitching about Inception actors :D
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    Ah, now I see, thanks. I doubt that's valid, as you say, if so it was an amazingly well kept secret, up until now that is.
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    Ellen Page (Possibly), Joseph Gordon Levitt, Tom Hardy, Michael Caine, Marion Cotillard and possibly Cillian Murphy.

    Hmm, what's the common factor...

    Not that I have any problem with it, loved Inception and think most of them are good actors.
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    I don't see why Batgirl would be incorporated into the movie when Robin, hasn't made an appearance in the franchise. Personally I would prefer if neither show up in the movie.

    I'm sure another director will take control of the series following TDKR, so this could hopefully be an option during later movies.
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    dcb1986 wrote: »
    I don't see why Batgirl would be incorporated into the movie when Robin, hasn't made an appearance in the franchise. Personally I would prefer if neither show up in the movie.

    I'm sure another director will take control of the series following TDKR, so this could hopefully be an option during later movies.
    The film takes place 8 years after TDK so a Robin cameo may happen. I doubt we would see Batgirl and Barbara may only be used as a way for Bane to get to Jim Gordon.
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    A few weeks ago I stumbled across this possible description of the prologue (again this is quite possibly fake), however as I've gone to try and check it out again I've noticed it slowly seems to be being deleted from some of the websites it was featured on which suggests to me there could be something truthful in this. Anyone who wants to read it it's here (beware its long and obviously full of potential spoilers) yet as I've said it could be a load of rubbish.
    “I’ve seen this a few times now, so I feel I can pretty accurately describe what happens. I’m probably leaving out some details, but I’ll try to paint the best picture I can.

    The movie opens up silently with a close up of Batman’s face. We can tell he’s on the Batpod on a highway of some sort.

    The angle changes, and we can now see that we’re starting off right where The Dark Knight left off. There’s a ridiculous amount of cops chasing Batman down.

    The scene changes again, and this time there’s noise in the background. Gordon is hugging his wife where the cops created the perimeter at the end of TDK. She then gets in the drivers seat of a cop car and we see that Gordon’s kids are sitting in the backseat. Gordon looks on as they begin to drive away.

    Cop: C’mon, Gordon. We’ve gotta go.

    Gordon nods and gets into the car with the cop. They’re the last ones there. The car quickly starts and begins to move.

    Then there’s a cut back to Batman being chased. He’s veering in and out of traffic, until finally he takes an exit onto a street.

    He seems to be in the clear momentarily, until all the cars that were chasing him on the highway appear behind him, followed shortly by a whole new batch of cop cars cutting him off from a side street. He zooms ahead of them.

    We cut back to Gordon in the car with the cop.

    Gordon (on his radio): This is commissioner Gordon. Does anyone have a location on the Batman?

    Cop chasing Batman: Yes, sir. He’s heading North. Likely towards the city limits.

    Cop in car with Gordon: Why would he be heading there?

    Gordon: Traffic. People are still trying to escape the Joker’s threat.

    It cuts back to Batman again, doing exactly what Gordon predicted. He approaches a huge line of traffic and veers inbetween them with ease. All the cop cars come to a screeching halt.

    Cut to Gordon again.

    Gordon: Where is he now?

    Cop chasing Batman: He’s…. gone. Probably outside the city by now.

    Cop in car with Gordon: Damn it! How can one guy outmanuever the entire Gotham police force?

    Gordon: I don’t know. But now, I’m betting we probably won’t see him for a long time.

    Cut to Batman. He’s driving on what looks to be some remote highway. He takes an exit and then the scene cuts to him driving past a “You are now entering Gotham City” sign. He approaches a large, empty tunnel (probably the tunnel the Joker made a threat on is my guess).

    As he enters the tunnel he pulls out a cell phone looking thing (I think it’s the one he used to call Alfred in Batman Begins after Scarecrow gassed him).

    Batman: Alfred, make sure there’s nobody near the bunker.

    He hangs up and continues to drive through the tunnel by himself for a bit.

    Then, just as he’s about to leave the tunnel, 2 giant trucks suddenly appear at the end of the tunnel, completely blocking his exit. At this point, he’s going too fast to stop so he swerves and hits the trucks HARD. Like really, it was bad. Then he’s laying on the ground, right next to the trucks.

    Then Bane and his henchman emerge and slowly file out of the trucks. And yeah, Tom Hardy looks huge as Bane. I don’t know how they did it. Then the henchman stand by the trucks while Bane starts to walk towards Batman after a brief pause. And I gotta say, this scene is paced extremely well. There’s a lot of tension and suspense while you’re waiting for Bane to make his move.

    Now Bane speaks in an extremely ghastly and eerie voice. I was skeptical at first, but it works very, very well.

    Bane: I’ve been watching you for some time. Waiting. For the right moment.

    Right now Batman looks like he’s regaining consciousness. He stands up and starts to try to walk away (he would never make it to the Batpod). Bane motions for his henchman to stay put and starts to walk closer to Batman.

    Bane (to henchmen): He’s mine.

    Bane continues walking, slowly.

    Bane (back at Batman): The Joker was even more formidable than I anticipated.

    Meanwhile Batman is desperately trying to limp away, but he’s hurt badly from the crash (plus he already looked pretty hurt from the fall at the end of TDK)

    Bane: Using Harvey Dent was a brilliant tactic.

    Batman is still trying to get away, but it’s at this point that Bane has “chased” him into a corner (he just walked), and the only place Batman has to go is through an open door and up some enclosed stairs that are built into the side of the tunnel. He feebly attempts to climb them, leaning heavily on the handrail.

    The suspense continues to build as Bane merely watches Batman try to regain his composure.

    Bane (as he’s still walking towards him and watching him climb the stairs): What exactly is it you’re running from? We both know where this is headed………. Bruce. (THIS PART was so freaking mind blowing. The line delivery and the change of pace in the music were so perfect that it made it overwhelmingly epic)

    And right now is basically where that little scene we saw from the teaser happens – Batman is at the top now and completely FREEZES upon hearing “Bruce”. Then Bane suddenly starts to advance with surprising speed (and the music suddenly blares and gets intense) and Batman turns around and gets ready to fight even though he’s definitely in no condition to. Bane then ascends the stairs and thus begins the most intense part of the entire sequence.

    Now we briefly get a better view of the place and see that they’re basically on a little bridge outside of the tunnel that curves around a bit and leads to more stairs that take you to higher ground outside the tunnel (where Bane’s henchman is standing in anticipation underneath a highway bridge). Batman throws the first punch at Bane, but Bane just grabs his arm. Batman is unable to break free from his grip so Bane elbows it with his other arm and all we hear is a loud SNAP as Batman screams out in pain.

    Batman staggers away, but Bane instantly advances on him, not missing a beat and kicks him square in the stomach. Batman is knocked back hard by the kick as Bane continues to advance. In desperation, Batman quickly pulls out his grappling gun and latches onto the bridge above him, but Bane literally tackles him in midair as he’s flying upwards and they both fall down to the ground below.

    Bane, of course, is basically unaffected by the fall but Batman is looking even worse than before – he’s lying on the floor, breathing extremely heavy, with evident damage to his suit.

    Bane: You’re pathetic. I expected more.

    A shot of Batman, who’s basically looking like he’s out for the count.

    Bane: Get up and fight me.

    Again, the pacing is so great here. Batman’s fear is palpable as he struggles to get up and face Bane. Finally, after considerable effort, he suddenly stands up and throws a Batarang at the light that’s lighting the lower level of the room they’re in. We briefly see Bane looking amused before things go dark.

    Now the camera focuses on Bane in a low light setting, calmly walking around the handrails through the dark without even feeling his way around. Batman has managed to disappear.

    Bane (here is where Hardy really shines, performing with incredible conviction and intensity after thus far just being an eerie and powerful presence): There’s no escape, Bruce. I can smell your fear.

    (Here he walks without talking for a bit, the tension builds)

    Bane: It does not matter how much you prolong the inevitable. After tonight, Batman is FINISHED.

    (more walking, the score is a subtle constant screech)

    Bane: (caps for intensity, he’s not literally shouting the whole time) Come fight me, Bruce. COME FIGHT ME OR I WILL FOCUS MY EFFORTS ON GOTHAM CITY. I WILL NOT REST UNTIL THE CITY IS IN FLAMES AND EVERYONE YOU CARE ABOUT IS DEAD. I AM BANE, AND I CAN KILL YOU.

    Suddenly, Batman appears behind Bane and attempts to get him into a chokehold.

    It seems to work.

    …Until Bane’s henchmen suddenly pour light from above onto the two dueling titans below. Batman is taken by surprise, and Bane peels Batman’s arms off his neck, foiling his desperation attempt, elbows him in the face, turns around, grabs his head, and punches it with all his might. Batman begins to fall backwards.

    Then, as Batman lays motionless on the ground,

    Bane: Killing you would only end your agony.

    Bane begins to put his arms underneath him…

    Bane: …I want you to see what I’m going to do.

    He lifts him high…

    …And smashes the bat over his knee. All we hear is a deafening CRAAAAACCKKK, followed by Bane tossing Batman to the ground and then walking away from the screen.

    Batman lays there, motionless; his face lifeless (it’s the same shot).

    And the screen goes black.”
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    A few weeks ago I stumbled across this possible description of the prologue (again this is quite possibly fake), however as I've gone to try and check it out again I've noticed it slowly seems to be being deleted from some of the websites it was featured on which suggests to me there could be something truthful in this. Anyone who wants to read it it's here (beware its long and obviously full of potential spoilers) yet as I've said it could be a load of rubbish.
    “I’ve seen this a few times now, so I feel I can pretty accurately describe what happens. I’m probably leaving out some details, but I’ll try to paint the best picture I can.

    The movie opens up silently with a close up of Batman’s face. We can tell he’s on the Batpod on a highway of some sort.

    The angle changes, and we can now see that we’re starting off right where The Dark Knight left off. There’s a ridiculous amount of cops chasing Batman down.

    The scene changes again, and this time there’s noise in the background. Gordon is hugging his wife where the cops created the perimeter at the end of TDK. She then gets in the drivers seat of a cop car and we see that Gordon’s kids are sitting in the backseat. Gordon looks on as they begin to drive away.

    Cop: C’mon, Gordon. We’ve gotta go.

    Gordon nods and gets into the car with the cop. They’re the last ones there. The car quickly starts and begins to move.

    Then there’s a cut back to Batman being chased. He’s veering in and out of traffic, until finally he takes an exit onto a street.

    He seems to be in the clear momentarily, until all the cars that were chasing him on the highway appear behind him, followed shortly by a whole new batch of cop cars cutting him off from a side street. He zooms ahead of them.

    We cut back to Gordon in the car with the cop.

    Gordon (on his radio): This is commissioner Gordon. Does anyone have a location on the Batman?

    Cop chasing Batman: Yes, sir. He’s heading North. Likely towards the city limits.

    Cop in car with Gordon: Why would he be heading there?

    Gordon: Traffic. People are still trying to escape the Joker’s threat.

    It cuts back to Batman again, doing exactly what Gordon predicted. He approaches a huge line of traffic and veers inbetween them with ease. All the cop cars come to a screeching halt.

    Cut to Gordon again.

    Gordon: Where is he now?

    Cop chasing Batman: He’s…. gone. Probably outside the city by now.

    Cop in car with Gordon: Damn it! How can one guy outmanuever the entire Gotham police force?

    Gordon: I don’t know. But now, I’m betting we probably won’t see him for a long time.

    Cut to Batman. He’s driving on what looks to be some remote highway. He takes an exit and then the scene cuts to him driving past a “You are now entering Gotham City” sign. He approaches a large, empty tunnel (probably the tunnel the Joker made a threat on is my guess).

    As he enters the tunnel he pulls out a cell phone looking thing (I think it’s the one he used to call Alfred in Batman Begins after Scarecrow gassed him).

    Batman: Alfred, make sure there’s nobody near the bunker.

    He hangs up and continues to drive through the tunnel by himself for a bit.

    Then, just as he’s about to leave the tunnel, 2 giant trucks suddenly appear at the end of the tunnel, completely blocking his exit. At this point, he’s going too fast to stop so he swerves and hits the trucks HARD. Like really, it was bad. Then he’s laying on the ground, right next to the trucks.

    Then Bane and his henchman emerge and slowly file out of the trucks. And yeah, Tom Hardy looks huge as Bane. I don’t know how they did it. Then the henchman stand by the trucks while Bane starts to walk towards Batman after a brief pause. And I gotta say, this scene is paced extremely well. There’s a lot of tension and suspense while you’re waiting for Bane to make his move.

    Now Bane speaks in an extremely ghastly and eerie voice. I was skeptical at first, but it works very, very well.

    Bane: I’ve been watching you for some time. Waiting. For the right moment.

    Right now Batman looks like he’s regaining consciousness. He stands up and starts to try to walk away (he would never make it to the Batpod). Bane motions for his henchman to stay put and starts to walk closer to Batman.

    Bane (to henchmen): He’s mine.

    Bane continues walking, slowly.

    Bane (back at Batman): The Joker was even more formidable than I anticipated.

    Meanwhile Batman is desperately trying to limp away, but he’s hurt badly from the crash (plus he already looked pretty hurt from the fall at the end of TDK)

    Bane: Using Harvey Dent was a brilliant tactic.

    Batman is still trying to get away, but it’s at this point that Bane has “chased” him into a corner (he just walked), and the only place Batman has to go is through an open door and up some enclosed stairs that are built into the side of the tunnel. He feebly attempts to climb them, leaning heavily on the handrail.

    The suspense continues to build as Bane merely watches Batman try to regain his composure.

    Bane (as he’s still walking towards him and watching him climb the stairs): What exactly is it you’re running from? We both know where this is headed………. Bruce. (THIS PART was so freaking mind blowing. The line delivery and the change of pace in the music were so perfect that it made it overwhelmingly epic)

    And right now is basically where that little scene we saw from the teaser happens – Batman is at the top now and completely FREEZES upon hearing “Bruce”. Then Bane suddenly starts to advance with surprising speed (and the music suddenly blares and gets intense) and Batman turns around and gets ready to fight even though he’s definitely in no condition to. Bane then ascends the stairs and thus begins the most intense part of the entire sequence.

    Now we briefly get a better view of the place and see that they’re basically on a little bridge outside of the tunnel that curves around a bit and leads to more stairs that take you to higher ground outside the tunnel (where Bane’s henchman is standing in anticipation underneath a highway bridge). Batman throws the first punch at Bane, but Bane just grabs his arm. Batman is unable to break free from his grip so Bane elbows it with his other arm and all we hear is a loud SNAP as Batman screams out in pain.

    Batman staggers away, but Bane instantly advances on him, not missing a beat and kicks him square in the stomach. Batman is knocked back hard by the kick as Bane continues to advance. In desperation, Batman quickly pulls out his grappling gun and latches onto the bridge above him, but Bane literally tackles him in midair as he’s flying upwards and they both fall down to the ground below.

    Bane, of course, is basically unaffected by the fall but Batman is looking even worse than before – he’s lying on the floor, breathing extremely heavy, with evident damage to his suit.

    Bane: You’re pathetic. I expected more.

    A shot of Batman, who’s basically looking like he’s out for the count.

    Bane: Get up and fight me.

    Again, the pacing is so great here. Batman’s fear is palpable as he struggles to get up and face Bane. Finally, after considerable effort, he suddenly stands up and throws a Batarang at the light that’s lighting the lower level of the room they’re in. We briefly see Bane looking amused before things go dark.

    Now the camera focuses on Bane in a low light setting, calmly walking around the handrails through the dark without even feeling his way around. Batman has managed to disappear.

    Bane (here is where Hardy really shines, performing with incredible conviction and intensity after thus far just being an eerie and powerful presence): There’s no escape, Bruce. I can smell your fear.

    (Here he walks without talking for a bit, the tension builds)

    Bane: It does not matter how much you prolong the inevitable. After tonight, Batman is FINISHED.

    (more walking, the score is a subtle constant screech)

    Bane: (caps for intensity, he’s not literally shouting the whole time) Come fight me, Bruce. COME FIGHT ME OR I WILL FOCUS MY EFFORTS ON GOTHAM CITY. I WILL NOT REST UNTIL THE CITY IS IN FLAMES AND EVERYONE YOU CARE ABOUT IS DEAD. I AM BANE, AND I CAN KILL YOU.

    Suddenly, Batman appears behind Bane and attempts to get him into a chokehold.

    It seems to work.

    …Until Bane’s henchmen suddenly pour light from above onto the two dueling titans below. Batman is taken by surprise, and Bane peels Batman’s arms off his neck, foiling his desperation attempt, elbows him in the face, turns around, grabs his head, and punches it with all his might. Batman begins to fall backwards.

    Then, as Batman lays motionless on the ground,

    Bane: Killing you would only end your agony.

    Bane begins to put his arms underneath him…

    Bane: …I want you to see what I’m going to do.

    He lifts him high…

    …And smashes the bat over his knee. All we hear is a deafening CRAAAAACCKKK, followed by Bane tossing Batman to the ground and then walking away from the screen.

    Batman lays there, motionless; his face lifeless (it’s the same shot).

    And the screen goes black.”

    Very interesting if true.............the following is pure speculation on my part
    Seeing as the main storyline is set 8 years after events of The Dark Knight, and therefore 8 years after the prologue you've described above, and given that the storyline supposedly has links to the Ra's al Ghul plot from Batman Begins including an appearance from Liam Neeson, might Batman use a Lazarus Pit to heal himself before returning to Gotham as Batman to try and take down Bane?
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    An update on the prologue. It will only be attached to the following IMAX locations showing Mission Impossible:

    - Bradford National Media Museum
    - Glasgow Science Center
    - London BFI Imax Theatre
    - Odeon Manchester
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    Ravster wrote: »
    An update on the prologue. It will only be attached to the following IMAX screenings of Mission Impossible:

    - Bradford National Media Museum
    - Glasgow Science Center
    - London BFI Imax Theatre
    - Odeon Manchester

    Hate this, was really looking forward to seeing it in IMAX but think its unfair as there are so few proper IMAX screens in the UK, there is an IMAX 15 minutes from where I live but isn't a proper one. Come the 21st of December YouTube is going to be full of Batman fans.
  • UltraVioletUltraViolet Posts: 7,673
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    Oo got two of those IMAX cinemas near me. Lovely. :)
  • pburke90pburke90 Posts: 14,758
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    So there are only 4 proper IMAX screens in the UK? So if you're an Irish or Welsh fan who wants to see this, the general message is "tough"? Charming. :rolleyes:
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    Paddy C wrote: »
    So there are only 4 proper IMAX screens in the UK? So if you're an Irish or Welsh fan who wants to see this, the general message is "tough"? Charming. :rolleyes:

    I was so ready to watch the upcoming prologue at my local IMAX in Birmingham. I've never been to it before so this would've been my first time ever.

    The funny thing is I've just found out that the IMAX theatre had been closed last month :mad: I've never been to an IMAX thatre and this one time I was prepared to go and they've shut it down :(
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    I was willing to go and see MI:GP just for the prologue, despite having never sat through a single MI film yet.

    Fortunately geography has saved me the expense!
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    ^ I really want to see MI 4, the third was excellent. So the Dark Knight Rises 6 minutes is a bonus at my imax. :)
  • YuffieYuffie Posts: 9,864
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    That spoiler sounds amazing, but not totally surprising ...

    I've got chills from reading it !
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    Press screening of the prologue tomorrow night so I reckon we could POSSIBLY see some footage or at least get some sort of content information tomorrow night, friday.
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    Wasn't sure they were doing one for this due to the finances involved... Loved the one they did for TDK
  • Johnny ClayJohnny Clay Posts: 5,328
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    Viral campaign, aka viral marketing, aka marketing.

    Mind you, as these things go, I'll admit the TDK stuff was very well done.

    The mock-up Gotham newspaper pages graffitied by the Joker were more entertaining than the film itself.
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    AshleyFTW wrote: »
    Wasn't sure they were doing one for this due to the finances involved... Loved the one they did for TDK

    It won't be as in-depth as I'm pretty sure (may be wrong) WB didn't re-hire the team behind TDK's viral campaign. So anything you'll see will likely be quite far apart and nothing compared to TDK's. However I may be wrong and they did re-hire them a short time ago I know they definately didn't initially.
    Viral campaign, aka viral marketing, aka marketing.
    Mind you, as these things go, I'll admit the TDK stuff was very well done.

    The mock-up Gotham newspaper pages graffitied by the Joker were more entertaining than the film itself.

    Thanks for that
  • Johnny ClayJohnny Clay Posts: 5,328
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    ^ oh any time.

    btw - hasn't this whole viral thing jumped the shark a bit?

    I mean, it all seemed so trendy and new a few years back, but who gives a monkey's these days?
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    ^ oh any time.

    btw - hasn't this whole viral thing jumped the shark a bit?

    I mean, it all seemed so trendy and new a few years back, but who gives a monkey's these days?

    You may be right but it just depends how it is done. Cloverfield and The Dark Knight are examples of how it can be down really well but Super 8 is an example of where it just seems half-arsed.

    By the way on the viral topic here is a countdown, for what? - no idea! http://operationearlybird.com/
  • Johnny ClayJohnny Clay Posts: 5,328
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    ^ bird is slang for helicopter was first thought. Too obvious and probably wrong though.

    According to other sites, the page's source code reveals something to do with googlemaps - poss. locations of preview/M:I 4 tie-in?
  • biggebruvbiggebruv Posts: 6,626
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    Iv been playing batman 2 arkum city and thought the music in this is probly the best batman music iv ever heard
    Better than burtons and nolans batmans scores

    It would be cool if they used the main theme music from batman arkum city in DKRs never happen I know LOL

    Cant wait for the movie everything about it so far looks and sounds promiseing hope it does not disapoint.
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    Good to hear that the prologue is getting a good reaction.


    all though its sound like they still need to sort out Banes voice as it sounds muffled apparently.

    Can someone lend me a time machine so I can skip forward to july?
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