The right of any prime minister is to keep his country safe. If he has doubts about an independent Scotland's security then protecting his own countrymen is a priority.
Or perhaps you would like to see someone from Iraq fly into Glasgow, cross over an unprotected border and bomb 200 people on the street of Liverpool?
If Cameron was that worried then he should have been up here stating his case for the union instead of leaving it to the dreadful Darling
BTW why would your man fly to Glasgow first? Liverpool has a mighty fine airport
The right of any prime minister is to keep his country safe. If he has doubts about an independent Scotland's security then protecting his own countrymen is a priority.
Or perhaps you would like to see someone from Iraq fly into Glasgow, cross over an unprotected border and bomb 200 people on the street of Liverpool?
A British Prime Minister stopping and checking British citizens with British passports from crossing into the seat of the commonwealth (which Scotland would be apart of) .... Not to mention the fact that no border controls are in place with Ireland (a fully independent/non commonwealth country) ...
The NO side are losing the plot and are in danger of imploding with such stupid talk ... The YES side could make hay with such headlines.
We may well see an independent Scotland folks. From my experience of Irish referendums over the years (and we've had dozens of them because of the way our Constitution is laid out) it's usually the side with late momentum that wins.
Jesus Christ. Let Scotland decide. According to the tories on here it's a warped poll, spend a few days up here and you will see the true picture. The Yes movement is everywhere. Westminster is broke and we have the black gold that used to bail you out. No more lies about being subsidy junkiies. Scotland does not support your empire rubbish...deal with it.
Momentum could now be massive, if YES are ahead undecided voters could start backing the perceived winner... Happens an awful lot in elections.
Indeed. It happened in both the Treaty of Nice and Treaty of Lisbon referendums in Ireland when most people assumed for months in advance that a vote in favour was perfectly safe and secure (ditto with the vote on the abolition of the Irish Senate last year)
We may well see an independent Scotland folks. From my experience of Irish referendums over the years (and we've had dozens of them because of the way our Constitution is laid out) it's usually the side with late momentum that wins.
That's exactly what I was saying Eurostar ... We in Ireland must be nearly referendum experts (talk of 3-4 Irish referendums next year) ... At this stage if this was the case in Ireland I would be expecting the YES side to pull away and win easily.
Very debatable about undecided voters on the day - voters subconsciously back winners.. If YES gain more momentum I think it will be unbelievably close.
But would that be the case in something so significant? I can see that point ringing true in a standard election but I'd have thought that if you were in favour of a change like this which will change the landscape of this country you'd be pretty certain that you were going to vote for it by now.
Not that there aren't people who will go for Yes at the last minute, but I'd expect those who genuinely don't know either way to get itchy feet on the day and decide to stick with things as they are.
But would that be the case in something so significant? I can see that point ringing true in a standard election but I'd have thought that if you were in favour of a change like this which will change the landscape of this country you'd be pretty certain that you were going to vote for it by now.
Not that there aren't people who will go for Yes at the last minute, but I'd expect those who genuinely don't know either way to get itchy feet on the day and decide to stick with things as they are.
I'm just going on what usually happens here in Ireland - it could be totally different in Scotland of course. Subconsciously I think people don't like voting against whatever loses the vote, I think it's momentum what actually wins referendums because of this happening with those undecided.
Seems like the good people of Paddy Power sense a change of direction in the referendum Last Saturday they were offering odds of 5/1 for a Yes vote Those odds are now in to 7/4
Bookies are hard nosed businessmen and if they cut the odds so dramatically then it is worth taking note of
We may well see an independent Scotland folks. From my experience of Irish referendums over the years (and we've had dozens of them because of the way our Constitution is laid out) it's usually the side with late momentum that wins.
Scottish independence, well, we have to wait and see what happens.
I suspect that those wanting change, that is the people who will vote "Yes" for independence, are more motivated to vote, than the people who will vote "No"
A "Yes" vote will change almost everything.
A "No" vote with a close "Yes" vote will change some things.
A "No" vote with a distant "Yes" vote will change nothing.
That's exactly what I was saying Eurostar ... We in Ireland must be nearly referendum experts (talk of 3-4 Irish referendums next year) ... At this stage if this was the case in Ireland I would be expecting the YES side to pull away and win easily.
It must be deeply alarming for the No side to see their vote collapse in the polls in recent weeks irishfeen. If I was in their camp, I would be terrified at the moment.
How the hell could anyone believe this border control nonsense?? - I'm living in an independent country outside the UK and I can drive or walk freely into the UK and travel to England, Wales and Scotland with just a driving licence.
Scotland, the UK and Ireland will sign a new free travel agreement outside Schengen - it's as simple as that.
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If Cameron was that worried then he should have been up here stating his case for the union instead of leaving it to the dreadful Darling
BTW why would your man fly to Glasgow first? Liverpool has a mighty fine airport
The NO side are losing the plot and are in danger of imploding with such stupid talk ... The YES side could make hay with such headlines.
Indeed. It happened in both the Treaty of Nice and Treaty of Lisbon referendums in Ireland when most people assumed for months in advance that a vote in favour was perfectly safe and secure (ditto with the vote on the abolition of the Irish Senate last year)
But would that be the case in something so significant? I can see that point ringing true in a standard election but I'd have thought that if you were in favour of a change like this which will change the landscape of this country you'd be pretty certain that you were going to vote for it by now.
Not that there aren't people who will go for Yes at the last minute, but I'd expect those who genuinely don't know either way to get itchy feet on the day and decide to stick with things as they are.
Bookies are hard nosed businessmen and if they cut the odds so dramatically then it is worth taking note of
Yes: 44%
No: 48%
Undecided: 8%
Excluding undecideds
Yes: 48%
No: 52%
Scottish independence, well, we have to wait and see what happens.
I suspect that those wanting change, that is the people who will vote "Yes" for independence, are more motivated to vote, than the people who will vote "No"
A "Yes" vote will change almost everything.
A "No" vote with a close "Yes" vote will change some things.
A "No" vote with a distant "Yes" vote will change nothing.
http://radicalindependence.org/2014/08/19/radical-independence-campaign-18k-canvass-sample-released/
18,000 canvassed, as I said in an earlier post, these people have went to the places normal polls don't go.
And you believe the original polls from govt sources saying 20% lead were?
The losing side would demand a recount of course but if whatever side won by 100 or 1000 votes in both counts, it would be declared a valid result.
It must be deeply alarming for the No side to see their vote collapse in the polls in recent weeks irishfeen. If I was in their camp, I would be terrified at the moment.
And what's to stop that happening now? What will be different?
He'll get caught at the border as he will be wearing a see you jimmy wig. Counter terrorism part 4.1.
Scotland, the UK and Ireland will sign a new free travel agreement outside Schengen - it's as simple as that.