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Inappropriate use of the term "gentleman"

JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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Do you ever notice this? It happens quite often on things like newspaper reviews when a man comits some heinous crime. He is referred to as "this gentleman..." when you'd think the term "man" would be more than adequate.

Something like "ball bag" even better. But definitely NOT "gentleman".
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Anyone?
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    TardisSteveTardisSteve Posts: 8,077
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    Anyone?

    this guy definitely isnt a gentleman, he isn't chivalrous, courteous, or honourable ;-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO_zypdnsQ


    it can mean a man or a man who is nice, caring etc


    gentleman
    ˈdʒɛnt(ə)lmən/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a chivalrous, courteous, or honourable man.
    "he behaved throughout like a perfect gentleman"
    a man of noble birth attached to a royal household.
    "a Gentleman of the Bedchamber"
    2.
    a polite or formal way of referring to a man.
    "opposite her an old gentleman sat reading"
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    SeasideLadySeasideLady Posts: 20,777
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    Do you ever notice this? It happens quite often on things like newspaper reviews when a man comits some heinous crime. He is referred to as "this gentleman..." when you'd think the term "man" would be more than adequate.

    Something like "ball bag" even better. But definitely NOT "gentleman".

    I've not noticed this personally. They usually drop the Mr. and refer to a criminal by his surname don't they ? I use the term ' gentleman ' at my work, and ' lady ' as well because it's much more polite. For example - ' There's a gentleman/ lady waiting to see you ' sounds better than ' there's a man/ woman waiting to see you '. Especially if people are listening to you.
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    I've not noticed this personally. They usually drop the Mr. and refer to a criminal by his surname don't they ? I use the term ' gentleman ' at my work, and ' lady ' as well because it's much more polite. For example - ' There's a gentleman/ lady waiting to see you ' sounds better than ' there's a man/ woman waiting to see you '. Especially if people are listening to you.

    It's a mark of extra respect - particularly when referring to the elderly.

    But not when talkng about a murderer, rapist or paedophile, say.

    "Man" is then quite adequate.
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    chocoholic100chocoholic100 Posts: 6,411
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    Never noticed it.
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    culturemancultureman Posts: 11,701
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    Do you ever notice this? It happens quite often on things like newspaper reviews when a man comits some heinous crime. He is referred to as "this gentleman..." when you'd think the term "man" would be more than adequate.

    Something like "ball bag" even better. But definitely NOT "gentleman".

    Dispute that it does happen 'quite often'.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    I get irritated on dating sites when men over 25 call themselves 'boy'. The further away from 25 they are, the more yuk it becomes!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 929
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    plymgary wrote: »
    I get irritated on dating sites when men over 25 call themselves 'boy'. The further away from 25 they are, the more yuk it becomes!

    I've always wondered, when do you stop calling a woman a 'girl' like what age do you say "She's a really good looking woman" instead of girl? :D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    3sweet5u wrote: »
    I've always wondered, when do you stop calling a woman a 'girl' like what age do you say "She's a really good looking woman" instead of girl? :D

    I suppose it's a subjective thing, but it should definitely stop by the time someone is 45! :D
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    cultureman wrote: »
    Dispute that it does happen 'quite often'.

    Oh it does. The last time I observed this was the other night on Question Time. Stella Creasy the Labour MP and Samantha Brick look-a like referred to that foreigner wanted by the police over the missing school girl (the one who has served time for killing another woman) as that "gentleman".

    No one see it, eh?
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    cavallicavalli Posts: 18,738
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    3sweet5u wrote: »
    I've always wondered, when do you stop calling a woman a 'girl' like what age do you say "She's a really good looking woman" instead of girl? :D

    I think it used to be around 25 but nowadays it's probably nearer to 65 :D
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    neelianeelia Posts: 24,186
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    Do you ever notice this? It happens quite often on things like newspaper reviews when a man comits some heinous crime. He is referred to as "this gentleman..." when you'd think the term "man" would be more than adequate.

    Something like "ball bag" even better. But definitely NOT "gentleman".

    I always take it as a form of passive aggressive sarcasm.
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    netcurtainsnetcurtains Posts: 23,494
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    3sweet5u wrote: »
    I've always wondered, when do you stop calling a woman a 'girl' like what age do you say "She's a really good looking woman" instead of girl? :D

    when they are no longer a teenager.
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    TrollHunterTrollHunter Posts: 12,496
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    Do you ever notice this? It happens quite often on things like newspaper reviews when a man comits some heinous crime. He is referred to as "this gentleman..." when you'd think the term "man" would be more than adequate.

    Something like "ball bag" even better. But definitely NOT "gentleman".

    Wait a minute. Aren't you that bloke who thought professional broadcasters saying , "he's X years of old" was a thing? Apologies if not, but if you are, you really are odd!!
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Wait a minute. Aren't you that bloke who thought professional broadcasters saying , "he's X years of old" was a thing? Apologies if not, but if you are, you really are odd!!

    What's "odd" about being observant?
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    RebelScumRebelScum Posts: 16,008
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    The only occasions I've noticed the use the description gentleman is when the accused is just that, accused, not found guilty of anything yet.
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    TrollHunterTrollHunter Posts: 12,496
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    What's "odd" about being observant?

    Oh, it IS you. Thought so :D
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    Miss XYZMiss XYZ Posts: 14,023
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    3sweet5u wrote: »
    I've always wondered, when do you stop calling a woman a 'girl' like what age do you say "She's a really good looking woman" instead of girl? :D

    My man refers to me as a girl and I'm nearly 38! Long may it continue! :D
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    KarlSomethingKarlSomething Posts: 3,529
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    this guy definitely isnt a gentleman, he isn't chivalrous, courteous, or honourable ;-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASO_zypdnsQ


    it can mean a man or a man who is nice, caring etc


    gentleman
    ˈdʒɛnt(ə)lmən/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a chivalrous, courteous, or honourable man.
    "he behaved throughout like a perfect gentleman"
    a man of noble birth attached to a royal household.
    "a Gentleman of the Bedchamber"
    2.
    a polite or formal way of referring to a man.
    "opposite her an old gentleman sat reading"

    Chivalrous, stabbing someone to death because a dictator told you to. Honorable, killing your daughter for being a relationship with someone of the wrong religion (or possibly being in any relationship at all, that wasn't the one you sold her off to), or killing anyone who left the religion.

    Nobility and royality is all about coming out of the right vagina, or marrying someone who did.
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Oh, it IS you. Thought so :D

    Never mind that young man! Answer the bloody question.
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Nicky Campbell has just referred to a woman who was found to be a hateful, sadistic troll as a "lady".

    "Woman" would have been more appropriate.
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    Jefferson wrote: »
    Nicky Campbell has just referred to a woman who was found to be a hateful, sadistic troll as a "lady".

    "Woman" would have been more appropriate.

    Minutes later a caller referred to her as a lady. When Gobber O'Brien on LBC covered it three callers referred to her as a "lady". One of them twice.
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    Toby LaRhoneToby LaRhone Posts: 12,916
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    The Pub Landlord uses it a lot.
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    JeffersonJefferson Posts: 3,736
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    cultureman wrote: »
    Dispute that it does happen 'quite often'.

    Once again - Someone on Question Time just described a killer of females as "that gentleman".
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    Toby LaRhoneToby LaRhone Posts: 12,916
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    Let it go.
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