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Was given the axe too page 3 another attack on freedom.

AdamskAdamsk Posts: 1,384
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Does anyone think that giving Page 3 the boot was another attack on freedom like Charlie Hebdo.
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    spkxspkx Posts: 14,870
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    Always found the campaign against it bizarre when you consider woman's mags with their similar 'torso of the week' etc. features
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    AdamskAdamsk Posts: 1,384
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    spkx wrote: »
    Always found the campaign against it bizarre when you consider woman's mags with their similar 'torso of the week' etc. features

    I agree there was also a double standers issue somewhere in it.
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    So next time, and it happens a lot on daytime tv, there's a guy stripped to the waist for no other reason than to make the women in the audience go "whoo" will those same people start a campaign to have that stopped?

    I bet not.
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    Louise32Louise32 Posts: 6,784
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    I don't think axing Page 3 is quite the same as gunning people down in Paris.
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    HelboreHelbore Posts: 16,069
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    Adamsk wrote: »
    Does anyone think that giving Page 3 the boot was another attack on freedom like Charlie Hebdo.

    Were people murdered over it? If not, then no its wasn't like Charlie Hebdo.
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    BelfastGuy125BelfastGuy125 Posts: 7,515
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    Anything that has that rag making compromises is fine in my book.
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    DadDancerDadDancer Posts: 3,920
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    Have they definitely axed it though?
    If they have given into those radical feminist campaigners then yes it is another attack on freedom of speech and freedom of press. The more worrying thing, is what is next on their agenda to get censored? That was always my point of defending page 3, not that i read the Sun or cared for it but that it getting axed will give more power to the easily offended and radical feminists.
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    DadDancerDadDancer Posts: 3,920
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    Louise32 wrote: »
    I don't think axing Page 3 is quite the same as gunning people down in Paris.

    That was not the point he was making. Take the violence out of the equation the principles are basically the same. In that we have let a small minority of easily offended extremists dictate what is printed
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    Louise32Louise32 Posts: 6,784
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    They may not have gave in to Feminists.

    They may have just decided to make a change and do something different.
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    BelfastGuy125BelfastGuy125 Posts: 7,515
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    DadDancer wrote: »
    Have they definitely axed it though?
    If they have given into those radical feminist campaigners then yes it is another attack on freedom of speech and freedom of press. The more worrying thing, is what is next on their agenda to get censored? That was always my point of defending page 3, not that i read the Sun or cared for it but that it getting axed will give more power to the easily offended and radical feminists.

    Oh come on! It was a ridiculous concept. It took those campaigns to rid us of it because the rest of us couldn't be bothered getting off our arses to complain. It is not an attack on your liberty to ask why topless women can't be in a newspaper (or what bills itself as one). Just like it isn't an attack on your freedom that topless women can't be on TV before the watershed.

    Now if they can FULLY apologise for Hillsborough, sack kelvin Ratbag mckenzie as a columnist they will begin to make amends.
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    AdamskAdamsk Posts: 1,384
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    We need a right set of mind and thinking not the left view.
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    BluescopeBluescope Posts: 3,432
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    I am not that bother about page 3 as such. What annoys me is this growing tend for women to ban stuff in general that men like. I am making light of the situation but you dont see men creating pressure groups to ban things like loose women (no men on the panel must be sexist) or shoe shopping, women's magazines with half naked men on them, soft porn books like 50 shades of grey, etc.

    To be honest as men we don't have a lot to look forward to in life but these groups to seem to suck the small aspect of fun out of it. Mum's net like a blackhole sucking the us into the void of blank featureless robots. Or womens magazines with their 10 point list why we are no good and endless pictures of how we should look if only we had not been worn down by the endless drivel that real life gives us.

    Thank god for Pubs and beer our one last escape or that 90 minutes of football each week to lose ourselves from the reality of being another punch bag.
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    DadDancerDadDancer Posts: 3,920
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    Anything that has that rag making compromises is fine in my book.

    I guess Voltaire's famous quote: 'I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.' doesn't strike a chord with you then?
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    Louise32 wrote: »
    I don't think axing Page 3 is quite the same as gunning people down in Paris.

    True, they didn't use big bazookas whereas page 3 does.
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    dodradedodrade Posts: 23,852
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    Why is the No More Page 3 campaign only targeted at the sun? Are page 3 girls in the Daily Star or Sunday Sport somehow less offensive to them?
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    BelfastGuy125BelfastGuy125 Posts: 7,515
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    dodrade wrote: »
    Why is the No More Page 3 campaign only targeted at the sun? Are page 3 girls in the Daily Star or Sunday Sport somehow less offensive to them?

    Maybe cause the scum is the highest selling one with the highest publicity? It makes complete sense.
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    WhedoniteWhedonite Posts: 29,244
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    So next time, and it happens a lot on daytime tv, there's a guy stripped to the waist for no other reason than to make the women in the audience go "whoo" will those same people start a campaign to have that stopped?

    I bet not.

    A man's chest isn't considered to be a sexual area that needs to be covered 24/7. I couldn't walk around topless in Summer, but a man could. Are women allowed to be stripped from the waist up on daytime TV?
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    Louise32Louise32 Posts: 6,784
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    Bluescope wrote: »
    I am not that bother about page 3 as such. What annoys me is this growing tend for women to ban stuff in general that men like. I am making light of the situation but you dont see men creating pressure groups to ban things like loose women (no men on the panel must be sexist) or shoe shopping, women's magazines with half naked men on them, soft porn books like 50 shades of grey, etc.

    To be honest as men we don't have a lot to look forward to in life but these groups to seem to suck the small aspect of fun out of it. Mum's net like a blackhole sucking the us into the void of blank featureless robots. Or womens magazines with their 10 point list why we are no good and endless pictures of how we should if only we had not been worn down by the endless drivel that real life gives us.

    Thank god for Pubs and beer our one last escape or that 90 minutes of football each week to lose ourselves from the reality of being another punch bag.

    How can women ban men from doing things?

    They can't, even if you're married to them- same goes for men banning women doing things, only happens in abusive relationships.

    Don't put up women telling you can't do stuff- same goes for men telling women can't do stuff.
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    DadDancerDadDancer Posts: 3,920
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    Oh come on! It was a ridiculous concept. It took those campaigns to rid us of it because the rest of us couldn't be bothered getting off our arses to complain. It is not an attack on your liberty to ask why topless women can't be in a newspaper (or what bills itself as one). Just like it isn't an attack on your freedom that topless women can't be on TV before the watershed.

    Now if they can FULLY apologise for Hillsborough, sack kelvin Ratbag mckenzie as a columnist they will begin to make amends.

    why was it a ridiculous concept? There's nothing ridiculous about the naked female body. and why shouldn't women appear topless before the watershed? are you sure they can't? The watershed was a legacy of the late Mary Whitehouse and should be relaxed. We are not living in the Victorian ages now you know
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    Louise32Louise32 Posts: 6,784
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    Daddancer,

    If breasts are allowed before the watershed, so should penises.

    Only thing is you won't see penises before the watershed.
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    WhedoniteWhedonite Posts: 29,244
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    Louise32 wrote: »
    Daddancer,

    If breasts are allowed before the watershed, so should penises.

    Only thing is you won't see penises before the watershed.

    Breasts and penises are not the same. Breasts are allowed on daytime TV, but only if they're attached to a man.
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    exlordlucanexlordlucan Posts: 35,375
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    Whedonite wrote: »
    A man's chest isn't considered to be a sexual area that needs to be covered 24/7. I couldn't walk around topless in Summer, but a man could. Are women allowed to be stripped from the waist up on daytime TV?

    That wasn't the point,

    In the many instances I've seen them bare chested there was no need to be like that other than for reasons to excite those in audience, probably those at home watching as well.
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    BelfastGuy125BelfastGuy125 Posts: 7,515
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    Whedonite wrote: »
    Breasts and penises are not the same. Breasts are allowed on daytime TV, but only if they're attached to a man.

    They are mostly the same let's be honest. Both have bodily functions yes. Both also serve a sexual purpose.

    The difference with a mans chest is that men have very limited sexual expression through their chests.
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    SemieroticSemierotic Posts: 11,132
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    Why anyone would buy the Sun is beyond me, but from the sounds of it this is more of a management decision than the result of a prolonged campaign. I don't care either way but its continued existence was a bit ridiculous, mainly thanks to the inane speech bubbles they put on the pics.
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    Louise32Louise32 Posts: 6,784
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    Breasts and penises are both viewed sexually though- why allow one but not the other?
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