Question Time Thursday 12th September 2013: BBC1 & HD @ 10.45pm!

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  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    onecitizen wrote: »
    I did notice that Caroline Lucas came out with some lazy anti-American & anti-Israel comment and the audience were clapping liked trained seals.

    Yep, all very 'north london'
  • northantsgirlnorthantsgirl Posts: 4,663
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    Capablanca wrote: »
    I'm going to look for signs of Labour's 'standard of living crisis' tomorrow. What are the symptoms? Will I see skeletal people on the street? Artful Dodger types picking my pocket? Hordes of folk dressed like Albert Steptoe? What do victims of this crisis look like?

    Perhaps you'd like to go outside London- perhaps, say, to those Tory marginals in the north west where it is still largely recession time and most people's standard of living is declining or stagnant. Then perhaps you'd understand the hill the Tories still have to climb.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,900
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    Well that was a complete non-event! I will echo the sentiments about failing to be inspired or engaged by the panel, and being maddened by the soap box audience members! Hopefully, the upcoming party conference specials will put a bit more fire in the belly!
  • Auld SnodyAuld Snody Posts: 15,171
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    Instead of watching this I watched a cheaply made,badly acted film on the horror channel. Looks like I made the right decision:D
  • koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    ianmatt wrote: »
    why keep having Lucas on she has nothing valuable to say,.

    Just because you don't agree with what she is saying doesn't mean that what she says isn't valuable.

    Most of what she says is very valid, it's just a shame she is only one of a few.
  • northantsgirlnorthantsgirl Posts: 4,663
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    Just because you don't agree with what she is saying doesn't mean that what she says isn't valuable.

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    It does appear that the problem the folk on here have with Question Time is that it has has left wingers on the panel and is held in places that aren't Dorking so you get these lefties in the audience too!
  • Rastus PiefaceRastus Pieface Posts: 4,382
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    Auld Snody wrote: »
    Instead of watching this I watched a cheaply made,badly acted film on the horror channel. Looks like I made the right decision:D

    starship troopers 3.:D (still more believable than anything chuka says).
  • rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    Auld Snody wrote: »
    Instead of watching this I watched a cheaply made,badly acted film on the horror channel. Looks like I made the right decision:D

    Not a lot between them I'd wager.

    I don't know if this was a particularly bad QT (because I stopped watching the program on a regular basis ages ago because it was becoming increasing annoying) But I feel like I should recommend people watch a rerun of last night's just to see for themselves how bad it was.
    So bad infact I reckon you should record yourself a copy and distribute it around Scotland as a good reason to vote YES next year :D
  • LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,623
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    ianmatt wrote: »
    Greening looks miserable and is as uncomfortable speaking as any coalition member.

    I've always thought that she's a nice enough person, comes from a normal background and is probably a hard working minister (despite her inability to remember to vote) but she's just not comfortable with the media and the confrontational nature of modern politics.
  • rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    LostFool wrote: »
    I've always thought that she's a nice enough person, comes from a normal background and is probably a hard working minister (despite her inability to remember to vote) but she's just not comfortable with the media and the confrontational nature of modern politics.

    Then she should remain a hard working backroom politician and not be put infront of a camera because like it or not perception is everything these days and her lack of confidence has a negative impact on the credibility of her argument.
    Had Aaronovitch challenged her like he did Lucas on one occasional she looked like she would have shut down completely. A politician doesn't have to be shouty and abrasive, but they do need to be confident and assertive - she's neither.
  • LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,623
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    rusty123 wrote: »
    Then she should remain a hard working backroom politician and not be put infront of a camera because like it or not perception is everything these days and her lack of confidence has a negative impact on the credibility of her argument.

    Oh, I agree. I do wonder why Conservative Central Office keeps letting her go on as she is always a poor performer. She was an especially odd choice this week given her "problems" with the Syria vote.

    Does anyone know how much control the parties have on who appears on QT? Is it coordinated through their central offices or do the BBC just invite who they want?
  • angarrackangarrack Posts: 5,493
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    LostFool wrote: »
    I've always thought that she's a nice enough person, comes from a normal background and is probably a hard working minister (despite her inability to remember to vote) but she's just not comfortable with the media and the confrontational nature of modern politics.

    I think the remarks about Justine Greening are unfair. I thought that last night she held her own very well. She kept quite cool and responded logically and sometimes at length. She got good applause in spite of the seemingly left wing dominated audience.

    Nobody could describe her as charismatic, but so what? Too many women MPs come on QT and there's no shutting them up; talking over others, must have the last word. I would prefer MPs like Justine Greening as panellists, myself.
  • solenoidsolenoid Posts: 15,495
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    Aaranovitch was spot on and Greening spoke well. Lucas and Chukka sought political capital from the parliamentary vote. The American woman was kind of middling. Dimbleby needs to retire.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,900
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    More entertaining is yesterdays very prickly exchange between George Galloway and Jo Coburn on Daily Politics! I like Jo, but her reactions to George very often put me in mind of Derek the indignant gay man, created by Catherine Tate!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03b6rtv/Daily_Politics_12_09_2013/

    Enjoy from 10 minutes in!:p
  • rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    LostFool wrote: »
    Oh, I agree. I do wonder why Conservative Central Office keeps letting her go on as she is always a poor performer. She was an especially odd choice this week given her "problems" with the Syria vote.

    Does anyone know how much control the parties have on who appears on QT? Is it coordinated through their central offices or do the BBC just invite who they want?

    I can see why the Beeb would have invited her on post that Syria debate because it gives them something to poke fun out of her over. She must have seen that coming so fair play to her in that regard for exposing herself to it. Whether that was done willingly or not I don't know. Seems a bit weird if she was sent under orders
  • SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    International Development Secretary Justine Greening...I thought she did well
    Shadow Business Secretary Chuka Umunna..Smug champagne socialist
    Green Party MP Caroline Lucas...Shoudn't she be in the Labour party ?
    Times columnist David Aaronovitch....Not impressed
    and law professor Colleen Graffy....sensible lady
    Annsyre wrote: »
    Umunna must spend half his time in t.v. studios, he's been all over the screen like measles recently.
    The other half shaving his head
    KIIS102 wrote: »
    Chuka "Tax cut for Millionaires" *drink*.
    Again he is not challenged on this. They now pay 5% more tax than under Labour
  • AZZURRI 06AZZURRI 06 Posts: 11,173
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    Capablanca wrote: »
    You forgot David Starkey! He usually injects a much needed dose of nuttiness. :D

    Pretty dull episode tonight. I thought the American woman was the best of a pretty poor bunch.

    I'm going to look for signs of Labour's 'standard of living crisis' tomorrow. What are the symptoms? Will I see skeletal people on the street? Artful Dodger types picking my pocket? Hordes of folk dressed like Albert Steptoe? What do victims of this crisis look like?

    Agreed, Starkey is always good value.
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