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Have soaps lost their moral compass?

Trance 2016Trance 2016 Posts: 130
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With murderers, frequent affairs and the justice system failing to bring many criminals to a just consequence, have soaps lost their way due to having to grab ratings.

Has it always been this way? Have villians always got away with so many bad deeds.

Any examples of this from your soaps and their characters?
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  • 0...00...0 Posts: 21,111
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    EE certainly has. Tony Soprano refused to live in Albert Square as it was too rough.
  • Keyser_Soze1Keyser_Soze1 Posts: 25,182
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    0...0 wrote: »
    EE certainly has. Tony Soprano refused to live in Albert Square as it was too rough.

    Hannibal Lecter, John Doe, Keyser Soze and Garland 'The Marietta Mangler' Greene took one look at the Philth wheezing and stumbling around and moved to somewhere less intimidating - the slums of Caracas.
  • valdvald Posts: 46,057
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    I've lost count of how many criminals, who have got away with major crimes, are living in Albert Square. It helps that the police are either incompetent or crooked.
  • JamieHTJamieHT Posts: 12,205
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    They still make sure that we know at every possible opportunity that alcohol and cheating and both at the same time are bad.
  • 0...00...0 Posts: 21,111
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    Keyser_Soze1 wrote: »
    Hannibal Lecter, John Doe, Keyser Soze and Garland 'The Marietta Mangler' Greene took one look at the Philth wheezing and stumbling around and moved to somewhere less intimidating - the slums of Caracas.

    I hope they all had a heart to heart with him over Peggy first.
  • Menime123Menime123 Posts: 1,838
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    No, they haven't. Secrets always come out in soaps and the truth will always prevail. Characters knowing the truth is ultimately what fans want to see and a confession is what let's a soap keep its moral compass - and a moral compass is something quite different to a legal comeuppance.
  • Keyser_Soze1Keyser_Soze1 Posts: 25,182
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    0...0 wrote: »
    I hope they all had a heart to heart with him over Peggy first.

    They should eat him.

    Although Hannibal will certainly not be consuming that bloody rotten liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti! :cool:
  • Aaron_SilverAaron_Silver Posts: 32,993
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    0...0 wrote: »
    I hope they all had a heart to heart with him over Peggy first.

    :D:D Off subject but it's nice to see you back ;-)
  • 0...00...0 Posts: 21,111
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    Keyser_Soze1 wrote: »
    They should eat him.

    Although Hannibal will certainly not be consuming that bloody rotten liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti! :cool:

    Well it's already been flambed. :p
  • 0...00...0 Posts: 21,111
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    Aaron_Silver wrote: »
    :D:D Off subject but it's nice to see you back ;-)

    Ta m'dear. Good to see you too. :)
  • Aurora13Aurora13 Posts: 30,246
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    Menime123 wrote: »
    No, they haven't. Secrets always come out in soaps and the truth will always prevail. Characters knowing the truth is ultimately what fans want to see and a confession is what let's a soap keep its moral compass - and a moral compass is something quite different to a legal comeuppance.

    Don't include me in your alternative world where the legal system has no relevance.
  • arr95arr95 Posts: 667
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    Corrie - Tracy Barlow, despite having murdered 3 people , is allowed to walk free and has a boyfriend, a business, a good home and a doting daughter
  • lobeydosserlobeydosser Posts: 3,864
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    arr95 wrote: »
    Corrie - Tracy Barlow, despite having murdered 3 people , is allowed to walk free and has a boyfriend, a business, a good home and a doting daughter

    Not as bad as a murder, obviously, but at the moment on Neighbours 4 teens are involved in theft of money and so far retribution has not found them!
  • Trance 2016Trance 2016 Posts: 130
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    Is there a thing as a legal compapss and a moral compass? What is the difference with that in soap terms?
  • Trance 2016Trance 2016 Posts: 130
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    Any takers?

    I know yesterday was an exciting but sad time for many fans so I have bumped the thread again.
  • Shazla09Shazla09 Posts: 29,335
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    They're holding too many compasses and following convoluted pathways
  • Irma BuntIrma Bunt Posts: 1,847
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    arr95 wrote: »
    Corrie - Tracy Barlow, despite having murdered 3 people , is allowed to walk free and has a boyfriend, a business, a good home and a doting daughter

    But she's not happy, is she? The Soap Gods find many different ways to punish characters. And, technically, she didn't murder three people.
  • Irma BuntIrma Bunt Posts: 1,847
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    Trance 2016 wrote: »
    With murderers, frequent affairs and the justice system failing to bring many criminals to a just consequence, have soaps lost their way due to having to grab ratings.

    Has it always been this way? Have villians always got away with so many bad deeds.

    Any examples of this from your soaps and their characters?

    Are adulterers villains?
  • sheepiefarmsheepiefarm Posts: 27,559
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    Irma Bunt wrote: »
    Are adulterers villains?

    When they start trying to kill people just to keep their affair secret, then yes :D
  • Trance 2016Trance 2016 Posts: 130
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    Irma Bunt wrote: »
    But she's not happy, is she? The Soap Gods find many different ways to punish characters. And, technically, she didn't murder three people.

    She KILLED Kal Nazir and Maddie Heath accidentally and indirectly but she is still accountable.

    She planned and MURDERED Charlie Stubbs.

    She has even impulsively, attempted to murder Carla Conner until she was interupted.
  • Trance 2016Trance 2016 Posts: 130
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    Thanks for all those that took the time to give my thread a chance.
  • phildunk1986phildunk1986 Posts: 1,658
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    Emmerdale is certainly a village you would certainly not want to visit what with all the crime.

    How many people has Cain Dingle kidnapped and tortured? There was Aaron's Dad Gordon and Rakesh.

    Who else?

    Then there is families like the Bartons, Sugdens, Whites and Dingles committing crimes and getting away it sometimes.

    Robert Sugden got away with his part in Katie's death.
  • TeifiboiTeifiboi Posts: 14,975
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    A moral compass is useless without a moral framework.
  • arr95arr95 Posts: 667
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    Irma Bunt wrote: »
    But she's not happy, is she? The Soap Gods find many different ways to punish characters. And, technically, she didn't murder three people.

    Yes fair enough - she is responsible for Kal and Maddie's deaths but she did not technically murder them. She has only murdered Charlie Stubbs- but she has tried to ruin people's lives - Carla, Becky etc

    As for whether she is happy- I would say you are right- she's not entirely- she is widely disliked across the street, acknowledged as having started the Victoria court fire, plus she has her own health issues with her kidney problems etc
  • Trance 2016Trance 2016 Posts: 130
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    phildunk1986 wrote: »
    Emmerdale is certainly a village you would certainly not want to visit what with all the crime.

    How many people has Cain Dingle kidnapped and tortured? There was Aaron's Dad Gordon and Rakesh.

    Who else?

    Then there is families like the Bartons, Sugdens, Whites and Dingles committing crimes and getting away it sometimes.

    Robert Sugden got away with his part in Katie's death.

    Didn't he, Jimmy King and Robert Sugden kidnap someone?
    I suspect Doctor Jermaine Bailey is next.
    Tom King.
    Sadie King.
    Rakesh Kotecha.
    Robert Sugden.
    Gordan Livesy.

    I bet they're more!
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