Why no Oz on Sky Atlantic?

DarthFaderDarthFader Posts: 3,880
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I would have thought out of all the back catalogue of HBO shows this would be one of the first they would show but they say they have no plans. Shame it looks fantastic.


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  • logansdadlogansdad Posts: 1,068
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    You're right! It is quite odd now that you mention it, would love to watch it again, fantastic show.
  • alternatealternate Posts: 8,110
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    I am sure they will get to it - they don't want to use up all of the back catalog at one. It is a hard watch and though critically acclaimed it is never going to get many viewers.
  • DarthFaderDarthFader Posts: 3,880
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    Late last year I tweeted them and they said no plans to show if but I know they might not be allowed to say. Wonder if it was shot on film. Might check Amazon for bluray.


    PJ
  • logansdadlogansdad Posts: 1,068
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    Last year HMV had the entire box set on DVD on sale at £100!
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    Agree, but the sad thing is sky atlantic along with sky1 appear to be moving to showing more tatty UK shows thus cutting down the slots to fit these great shows in. Same with breaking bad, that needs to be on a sky channel.
    Sky branded channels seems to be aiming many of their shows at people who normally watch BBC1/ITV1 so the content of Oz and breaking bad might be too much for some of these people to handle:D
  • DarthFaderDarthFader Posts: 3,880
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    There are some great shows on Atlntic though to be fair. The Following and the Newsroom when that returns to name but two. You can get the boxset of all six seasons for £36 on Amazon. Not bad at all. The moment I do Sky will show it :D

    Didn't know it was six seasons, was it always going to be that length or did it decline and get axed? I wonder if the reason Sky hasn't shown it yet is because CBS have the DVD and other rights at the moment as they co made it?


    PJ
  • walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,564
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    logansdad wrote: »
    Last year HMV had the entire box set on DVD on sale at £100!

    £38 at Amazon now.
  • GulftasticGulftastic Posts: 127,194
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    I'd watch it again. Might skip the
    Cyril execution though

    It don't think my body will cope with crying all the water out of it a second time.
  • jesse_pinkmanjesse_pinkman Posts: 500
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    I've been wondering too! Wanted to see this for a long time. Hopefully they'll show it eventually, but if not that deal on Amazon sounds good.
  • derek500derek500 Posts: 24,887
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    Sky branded channels seems to be aiming many of their shows at people who normally watch BBC1/ITV1 so the content of Oz and breaking bad might be too much for some of these people to handle:D

    Shows like Girls, Hit & Miss, House of Lies and the forthcoming Banshee are hardly the sort you'd see on BBC1/ITV1.
  • logansdadlogansdad Posts: 1,068
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    The one way i can guarantee Oz will get shown, is if i go and buy the box set!
  • ChuckyBlackhartChuckyBlackhart Posts: 2,468
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    DarthFader wrote: »
    I would have thought out of all the back catalogue of HBO shows this would be one of the first they would show but they say they have no plans. Shame it looks fantastic.


    PJ

    Just wondering, since you say it looks fantastic, did you see a trailer for it or something?
  • DarthFaderDarthFader Posts: 3,880
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    Just wondering, since you say it looks fantastic, did you see a trailer for it or something?

    Seen clips of it on various shows and from reading up on it from wiki.
  • ChuckyBlackhartChuckyBlackhart Posts: 2,468
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    Oz has always been outside of the mainstream.

    When Channel 4 showed it, it was shown half way through the night.

    And along with other 4Later programmes it's one of the few shows on Channel 4 not to be repeated ad infinitum.

    In TV guides they only gave it the short description of "offbeat prison drama". And that's if they said anything about it at all. There were never any features, news or reviews about the series in listings magazines.

    Then there's the fact that in HMV they had a specialised HBO section and the only HBO series not in that section was...Oz.

    It's too dark to have been embraced by the mainstream.

    Meanwhile all the shows which have been influenced by Oz (all U.S. dramas made since in my opinion) are over hyped and over rated.

    Ironic that the series never got the praise and attention it deserved.
  • logansdadlogansdad Posts: 1,068
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    Another show that never got the love over here was Homicide: Life on the Street, C4 treated it pretty badly as well.
  • jo2015jo2015 Posts: 6,021
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    Oz has always been outside of the mainstream.

    When Channel 4 showed it, it was shown half way through the night.

    And along with other 4Later programmes it's one of the few shows on Channel 4 not to be repeated ad infinitum.

    In TV guides they only gave it the short description of "offbeat prison drama". And that's if they said anything about it at all. There were never any features, news or reviews about the series in listings magazines.

    Then there's the fact that in HMV they had a specialised HBO section and the only HBO series not in that section was...Oz.

    It's too dark to have been embraced by the mainstream.

    Meanwhile all the shows which have been influenced by Oz (all U.S. dramas made since in my opinion) are over hyped and over rated.

    Ironic that the series never got the praise and attention it deserved.

    Channel 4 actually moved it to E4! And that was when E4 wasn't a freeview channel.

    I think Channel 4 broadcast the last series at 3 a.m over the Xmas period in the mid 00s.
  • ChuckyBlackhartChuckyBlackhart Posts: 2,468
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    jo2015 wrote: »
    Channel 4 actually moved it to E4! And that was when E4 wasn't a freeview channel.

    I think Channel 4 broadcast the last series at 3 a.m over the Xmas period in the mid 00s.

    The only decent thing E4 have ever shown. :D:p
  • MoreTearsMoreTears Posts: 7,025
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    Meanwhile all the shows which have been influenced by Oz (all U.S. dramas made since in my opinion) are over hyped and over rated.

    Complete rubbish, and on two different counts no less. (1) There have been literally hundreds of US TV dramas since Oz that have had no influence from Oz, and (2) denigrating all of the great shows that followed, and surpassed, Oz on HBO and other cable channels just shows a critical deaf ear on your part.
  • walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,564
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    Oz has always been outside of the mainstream.

    When Channel 4 showed it, it was shown half way through the night.

    And along with other 4Later programmes it's one of the few shows on Channel 4 not to be repeated ad infinitum.

    In TV guides they only gave it the short description of "offbeat prison drama". And that's if they said anything about it at all. There were never any features, news or reviews about the series in listings magazines.

    Then there's the fact that in HMV they had a specialised HBO section and the only HBO series not in that section was...Oz.

    It's too dark to have been embraced by the mainstream.

    Meanwhile all the shows which have been influenced by Oz (all U.S. dramas made since in my opinion) are over hyped and over rated.

    Ironic that the series never got the praise and attention it deserved.

    Are you saying that every single U.S. drama since has been influenced by Oz? What a weird thing to claim.
  • srhDSsrhDS Posts: 2,063
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    Are you saying that every single U.S. drama since has been influenced by Oz? What a weird thing to claim.

    I think this influence can most easily be witnessed in Glee. Although Grey's Anatomy also has heavy touches. Ironically the only show to have no infuence at all is Prison Break...
  • logansdadlogansdad Posts: 1,068
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    srhDS wrote: »
    I think this influence can most easily be witnessed in Glee. Although Grey's Anatomy also has heavy touches. Ironically the only show to have no infuence at all is Prison Break...

    :Dvery good:D
  • ChuckyBlackhartChuckyBlackhart Posts: 2,468
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    I didn't mean all programmes since Oz had ripped it off.

    I meant it's had a wider cultural impact, with programme makers being influenced by it, consciously or not.

    American TV became braver after Oz. With an increase in the level of violence and programmes with a dark tone and the use of hand held style camera work etc. Then there is the fact there has since been more programmes that focus on criminals, Prison Break, Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad for example.

    I was talking about post 9pm adult dramas.

    Any need for the anger, hostility and sarcasm? :rolleyes:
  • ChuckyBlackhartChuckyBlackhart Posts: 2,468
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    srhDS wrote: »
    I think this influence can most easily be witnessed in Glee. Although Grey's Anatomy also has heavy touches. Ironically the only show to have no infuence at all is Prison Break...

    Glee is a drama?

    That's news to me. :eek:
  • srhDSsrhDS Posts: 2,063
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    American TV became braver after Oz. With an increase in the level of violence and programmes with a dark tone and the use of hand held style camera work etc. Then there is the fact there has since been more programmes that focus on criminals, Prison Break, Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad for example.
    There are several reasons why tv got darker around this time. In the mid 90s the FCC started cracking down on Network tv which it felt had gone wild. Shows like NYPD Blue were critised for their levels of violence and nudity, still quite tame compared to cable shows of today (a little side boob - Family did a song "ode to the Side Boob" lamentin its demise on Network tv which is probably on youtube). Season 3 or 4 of NYPD Blue was a lot grittier than seaon 10 or 11.
    With Network tv constrained the market was open to the Cable channels like HBO and ShowTime to move into this darker more adult niche. To differentiate themselves from the Network channels these Cable channels used swearing, violence, nudity as much as they could (which was a lot as they're not regulated by the strict FCC). Although they did wisely ensure that these shows were high quality drama and went for the Emmy award etc. It wasn't just sex and violence. Had they just made B movie style tv shows then HBO, ShowTime, AMC et al would still be small barely known channels. But they brought us The Sopranos, Mad Men, The Shield, Dexter and so on.
    Of course the sat / fibre infrastructure had improved enough to allow these channels to reach a wider audience. DVD box sets also helped establish these channels.
    Any need for the anger, hostility and sarcasm? :rolleyes:

    Any Facetious comments were meant in Jest and not to be hostile :)
  • ChuckyBlackhartChuckyBlackhart Posts: 2,468
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    I think every piece of art and creativity we see, hear, watch and read has an influence / impact on us. Whether it be consciously or otherwise. This is how culture exists. Because things are constantly influencing each other.

    Oz was a landmark programme. And signified a turning point in U.S. TV.

    Since Oz American TV drama has been more experimental, more adult, more filmic, more ambitious, it’s had higher production values. It’s willing to treat viewers with a greater intelligence than it used to.
    Even non subscription channels have being showing programmes which are pushing the boundaries of what they can show. With programmes being darker and more violent than what used to be shown on non subscription TV, for example, Lost and Prison Break.

    I am not saying that programmes have ripped off specifics of Oz. What I am saying is that it has had a wider cultural impact. And has had an effect on American dramas made since, either directly or indirectly.

    Although I can give specifics of what I mean:

    Since Oz there has been a larger inclusion of ‘racial minorities’ in U.S. TV drama. Whereas before main characters where always white.
    Since Oz there have been muslims in U.S. TV drama.
    Since Oz U.S. drama has generally been darker and more violent.
    Since Oz U.S. drama has been more risqué and less politically correct.

    The current surge of sophisticatedly produced, adult U.S. drama began with Oz.
    srhDS wrote: »

    Any Facetious comments were meant in Jest and not to be hostile :)

    Fair enough. :)
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