why is lesbian sex deemed acceptable where as gay isnt?

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  • jesayajesaya Posts: 35,597
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    pugamo wrote: »
    Lesbian sex doesn't involve insertion of a large penis into a small orifice. That's probably why.

    No but it can involve the insertion of other things into said small orifices.

    Not having 6.25* inches of spongiform tissue isn't as limiting as one might imagine.

    *average apparently
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,801
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    Fizgig wrote: »
    Am intrigued to know how they make the port.

    It's definitely not through Cockburns.
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    Glowbot wrote: »
    Wasn't it all anal sex? It might be urban legend but i heard female anal sex was only recently legalised.

    Yes I think all anal sex was illegal (Buggery Act of 1533). Infact, is straight buggery still illegal?
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    hyena wrote: »
    It's definitely not through Cockburns.

    That will be the homosexual Port.
  • Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    Fizgig wrote: »
    Yes I think all anal sex was illegal (Buggery Act of 1533). Infact, is straight buggery still illegal?

    Nope, although you might be surprised to learn that it wasn't until 10 years ago that all sodomy was legal across the entire US.
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    Glowbot wrote: »
    Wasn't it all anal sex? It might be urban legend but i heard female anal sex was only recently legalised.

    So far as I am aware, anal sex with a female is still illegal. In 2000, the sexual offences act made homosexual anal sex legal for 16+ year olds, but I am not aware of anything overturning the original crime of buggery for heterosexual adults.
  • GetFrodoGetFrodo Posts: 1,805
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    Fizgig wrote: »
    Infact, is straight buggery still illegal?

    Only if you fail to use lube and you'll still need a man with a red flag to proceed you...
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,177
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    Nope, although you might be surprised to learn that it wasn't until 10 years ago that all sodomy was legal across the entire US.

    Ah, I just googled, we got the green flag in 1994.
    Scratch that, it was Yahoo answers.
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    GetFrodo wrote: »
    Only if you fail to use lube and you'll still need a man with a red flag to proceed you...

    Wouldn't that be classed as shagging a man with a red flag though?
  • Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    On the subject of anal sex, I've noticed that many feminists take great issue over it and often use it to attack pornography. It's something I noticed relatively recently in an article I read on the Guardian website. I'm curious as to why.
  • FMKKFMKK Posts: 32,074
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    One way of looking at is this; traditionally women have been considered submissive; therefore two women having sex isn't causing anyone harm by that logic.

    Traditionally men have been considered dominant; two men having sex damages this idea because of the implication that one of the men is submitting to another.

    Similarly, female sexuality was and is considered gentle, productive. Male sexuality was and is considered brutal, hedonistic and destructive. This is why the ratio of depictions are as they are.

    Interestingly, this plays into a theory that I have (that probably already existed to be fair) about homophobia being borne out of, or at least related to sexism and misogyny. Gay men are seen as rejecting their cultural role of dominance and taking on the role of the female and therefore the inferior. Of course, attitudes have changed and developed over the generations but I think there is a lot in that link between homophobia and restrictive gender roles.
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    schead wrote: »
    So far as I am aware, anal sex with a female is still illegal. In 2000, the sexual offences act made homosexual anal sex legal for 16+ year olds, but I am not aware of anything overturning the original crime of buggery for heterosexual adults.

    I think you could be right! This could change the face of DS. Straights, discriminated against.
  • jesayajesaya Posts: 35,597
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    Fizgig wrote: »
    I think you could be right! This could change the face of DS. Discriminated against.

    Nope, buggery law was superseded by the sexual offences act of 2003.
  • ribtickleribtickle Posts: 6,361
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    Religion is the root of all prejudice, it seeks to legitimise it by the excuse that the followers are the righteous, chosen ones and all others are heretics/infidels who can be put to death, or any other commandment which needs breaking. You can do whatever you want when God's on your side, and basic humanity goes out the window.

    All major religions are patriarchal, historically subjugating women as slaves and pregnancy receptacles. The Kings through to the Presidents need lots of male soldiers and workers to expand and defend the empire, and to achieve that men must reproduce, so male homosexuality is frowned upon, whereas lesbianism was either not known enough about by the males in charge of society when the Holy books were cobbled together, or it was considered a turn-on, and such women could, under the terms of those religions, be conjugally raped as the unchoosing and unthinking possessions of men, so any lebianism became an irrelevance, or erotic sideshow.

    This is why religions have very little to say about female homosexuality, but lots forbidding male homosexuality, and out of that social mores evolve which come to loathe male homosexuality, and accordingly the state has always listened to church leaders and set into legislation anti-gay male laws. In Britain lesbian sex has never been illegal, and there was never an age-of-consent for lesbians until everyone was included at age 16 - the reason for such disparity was religion.

    Henry 8th agreed to a list of things, including making buggery illegal in Britain for the first time, specifically because it was demanded by the Roman Catholic Church, and he feared they had cursed him into being unable to produce a male heir, and by agreeing to their list of demands for the purification of England the curse would somehow be lifted. Nobody was prosecuted for gay sex again until those godbothering moralists, the Victorians, made it so, that was when they weren't exporting their prejudicial religion around Africa and the Caribbean via missionaries, which is why those areas are hotbeds of homophobia (and misogyny) today - with the homophobia always directed at males.
  • Glawster2002Glawster2002 Posts: 15,189
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    ribtickle wrote: »
    Nobody was prosecuted for gay sex again until those godbothering moralists, the Victorians, made it so, that was when they weren't exporting their prejudicial religion around Africa and the Caribbean via missionaries, which is why those areas are hotbeds of homophobia (and misogyny) today - with the homophobia always directed at males.

    I did read once, and I have no idea how true it actually is, that the Victorians originally intended to criminalise same-sex relationships for both men and women but when she read the proposal Queen Victoria (God Bless Her) said she didn't believe women were capable of such acts and so it was changed to only apply to men.

    But as I say, it may well be an urban myth.
  • rbdcayrbdcay Posts: 12,041
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    Actually don't care.
  • MoonyMoony Posts: 15,093
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    But they're not doing it for the benefit of straight men..... are they not doing it for other Lesbians? :cool:

    Doesn't matter - straight men can still appreciate the aesthetics and beauty :D

    I can appreciate the mating dance of a bird of paridise - despite the bird not doing the dance for my benefit ;)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 17,060
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    Lesbians aren't taken seriously, that's why. There's an attitude of 'She just needs a good seeing to' or 'She can't get a man so she had to get with a woman', depending on the percieved attractiveness of the woman in question.

    It seems to be getting to the point where more teenage girls identify as bisexual or omnisexual than straight, and I would bet that a big percentage of them have no intention of going down on another girl, they just want to look sexually adventurous and edgy to appeal to their male peers. Even when I was at secondary school in the 90s I had friends who would kiss each other to turn boys on. There's no male equivalent of that.
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    Jerrica09 wrote: »
    Lesbians aren't taken seriously, that's why. There's an attitude of 'She just needs a good seeing to' or 'She can't get a man so she had to get with a woman', depending on the percieved attractiveness of the woman in question.

    It seems to be getting to the point where more teenage girls identify as bisexual or omnisexual than straight, and I would bet that a big percentage of them have no intention of going down on another girl, they just want to look sexually adventurous and edgy to appeal to their male peers. Even when I was at secondary school in the 90s I had friends who would kiss each other to turn boys on. There's no male equivalent of that.

    quite!

    and yes to the second as well. The number of girls posting pics of themselves kissing other girls on fb just makes me :rolleyes: to oblivion

    interestingly though girls and women write HUGE amounts of slash fic about celebrity men with really graphic gay sex. Is that something that a lot of men know about?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,182
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    Lesbian sex = gay sex.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,105
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    It depends where you live and what the mores of the nation are. In places like South Africa, Thailand and Ecuador, thousands of lesbian women have been raped as a form of correction.
  • rbdcayrbdcay Posts: 12,041
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    sootysoo wrote: »
    Lesbian sex = gay sex.

    Don't bring logic into the situation it will only confuse the masses. ;)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,182
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    rbdcay wrote: »
    Don't bring logic into the situation it will only confuse the masses. ;)

    Indeed. :rolleyes:

    Also, (this might confuse people even more) but not all gay men engage in anal sex. :eek: shock of all shocks.
  • MoonyMoony Posts: 15,093
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    schead wrote: »
    So far as I am aware, anal sex with a female is still illegal. In 2000, the sexual offences act made homosexual anal sex legal for 16+ year olds, but I am not aware of anything overturning the original crime of buggery for heterosexual adults.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buggery#In_law

    "The Sexual Offences Act 2003 fully removed buggery as a concept in British law, introducing an equal age of consent and not differentiating between vaginal and anal sex."
  • dee123dee123 Posts: 46,193
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    mizhog wrote: »
    im watching harold and kumar where there are rampant lesbian sex gags if there were blatant gay sex scenarios like the lesbians ones in guantanamo bay it wouldnt be as funny

    why is this?

    Cause' sadly still in 2013 white, old, straight men decide a hell of a lot.
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