Brilliant, why not? Im for this type of thing.
Churches advertise god, jesus athists can do the same, hense visit mywebsite http://www.cultofrandom.com
I got trapped by a bunch of scientologists in town today and then gave them leaflets for my cult.
It'll raise a few eyebrows get a few feathers ruffled etc but in the long run i doubt most people will notice or care.
Why am I not surprised that Richard Dawkins is behind this?
But to be fair, Christians do have loads of people who go around knocking on doors, and open-air preachers who shout things at people (i.e. "You're going to burn in Hell!"). Christians have been converting people ever since the days of the Roman Empire.
So why would it be wrong for athiests to put an advert on a bus?
Actually the BHA are 'behind' the idea. RD supports it, as do I.
Maybe we should all do as the slogan suggests:
"There's probably no God.
Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."
This has to be 1 of the best ideas since sliced bread. For ever since I can remember we have had to put up with people standing in the street reading from the bible & preaching of our wrongs.
We have also had to put up with Jehovah Witnesses knocking on our door bringing us so called good news.
It is about time non believers had chance to advertise their thoughts.
The message says - so stop worrying and get on with your life. So presumably it's a call to anybody whose life is being messed up through worrying about religion.
A good thing then - but a limited audience I should think. And of course because it's directed at people who 'half' believe in God it's a call to faith. To have faith that atheism will give your life more meaning.
I hope there's some support network then for the people who heed the message. Otherwise it's quite irresponsible.
Of course it might just be two fingers to religion masquerading as something else. But that would be childish wouldn't it:rolleyes:
So Dawkin's ad is in response to this singular ad last week?
Childish?
Yes, the entire campaign is based around the one ad I saw last Thursday at 6pm. There have been no other Alpha Course or other religious adverts anywhere.
A good thing then - but a limited audience I should think. And of course because it's directed at people who 'half' believe in God it's a call to faith. To have faith that atheism will give your life more meaning
Where does it state atheism will give you life 'more meaning'?
There's a difference between enticing debate and going out of the way to stir the pot.
I really don't think this type of thing is appropriate in our current climate when there's so much tension between religious and non-religious groups anyway.
I hate the cut definitions of agnostic/atheist as everyone has differing scales
Where I stand. I dismiss all religion texts as nothing more than fairly tale rubbish. I think everything came from the big-bang and that everything can ultimately be explained with science and logic. Not yet but ultimately can be.
I dismiss religious texts as complete horses**t. However like many people of the sciences I do not deny there is no explanation to what became before the universe and what it was that created the Higgs boson. I.E something had to jump start creation itself. God? I dunno no one does. Something did for sure but that will always be impossible to answer, but I don't think an invisible man made everything with magic etc and you will be reward/punlished in the afterlife, total rubbish. Nothing but the biggest con is the history of creation.
Now that does make me an atheist and not agnostic.
You may qualify as a deist. LOL
You dismiss all manmade religions as pure nonsense and their concepts of God. You may believe there is something, but not in any way shape or form is it some magic being in another dimension.
A school kid who grows a plant in class may be a god to the plant if it developed intelligence and conciousness, we would know the child isn't.
Maybe 'God' is some distant being who simply created us without any real concept of what we do here. We could be the size of a bacteria compared to this being, why would anything we do register?
Its the arrogance of man where religion was born. We are clever therefore God loves us and made us in his image.
Where does it state atheism will give you life 'more meaning'?
I knew I'd get pulled up on that one! You're right it doesn't. So presumably the message would be stop- worrying about a meaningful existence and just enjoy it.
That's not bad actually! I'll go for that for a while:)
Why am I not surprised that Richard Dawkins is behind this?
But to be fair, Christians do have loads of people who go around knocking on doors, and open-air preachers who shout things at people (i.e. "You're going to burn in Hell!"). Christians have been converting people ever since the days of the Roman Empire.
So why would it be wrong for athiests to put an advert on a bus?
i'm a firm believer in christianity and noone i know does it.
This proposed advertising smacks of desperation by the Humanist/Dawkins society for converts. And they say the Church indoctrinates?
You may be right, though the churches must be even more desperate. The huge majority of people in UK are too busy reading 'Hello' to give a shit about religion or atheism. Some thought of any kind should surely be welcomed by all faiths, or lack of them.
This proposed advertising smacks of desperation by the Humanist/Dawkins society for converts. And they say the Church indoctrinates?
Hardly. Are they asking people to attend a church or believe in a holy book? No. Its telling people to get on with their lives, as there probably isn't a god anyway. Indoctrination? What an exaggeration. They are not brainwashing with threats of eternal damnation!
Or is it a case of they are not 100% sure?:rolleyes:
It's recognising the fact that no-one can factually state that god doesn't exist, anymore than it can be factually stated that it does, or that Russel's flying teapot does/doesn't.
The church has had 2,000 years of forcing its outmoded and life-diminishing views on others. It's time for people who think differently to say something for a change. Not frightened, are you?;)
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Churches advertise god, jesus athists can do the same, hense visit mywebsite
http://www.cultofrandom.com
I got trapped by a bunch of scientologists in town today and then gave them leaflets for my cult.
It'll raise a few eyebrows get a few feathers ruffled etc but in the long run i doubt most people will notice or care.
Actually the BHA are 'behind' the idea. RD supports it, as do I.
Maybe we should all do as the slogan suggests:
"There's probably no God.
Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."
It should say that but probably is the obvious compromise.
Or is it a case of they are not 100% sure?:rolleyes:
Childish?
We have also had to put up with Jehovah Witnesses knocking on our door bringing us so called good news.
It is about time non believers had chance to advertise their thoughts.
I welcome this with open arms .
I don't think that's the claim, no.
Dishonest?
A good thing then - but a limited audience I should think. And of course because it's directed at people who 'half' believe in God it's a call to faith. To have faith that atheism will give your life more meaning.
I hope there's some support network then for the people who heed the message. Otherwise it's quite irresponsible.
Of course it might just be two fingers to religion masquerading as something else. But that would be childish wouldn't it:rolleyes:
Yes, the entire campaign is based around the one ad I saw last Thursday at 6pm. There have been no other Alpha Course or other religious adverts anywhere.
Where does it state atheism will give you life 'more meaning'?
Pish, too much effort would go into raising two fingers to religion!
dashes off to mock up a picture
They will have to settle with one
There's a difference between enticing debate and going out of the way to stir the pot.
I really don't think this type of thing is appropriate in our current climate when there's so much tension between religious and non-religious groups anyway.
You may qualify as a deist. LOL
You dismiss all manmade religions as pure nonsense and their concepts of God. You may believe there is something, but not in any way shape or form is it some magic being in another dimension.
A school kid who grows a plant in class may be a god to the plant if it developed intelligence and conciousness, we would know the child isn't.
Maybe 'God' is some distant being who simply created us without any real concept of what we do here. We could be the size of a bacteria compared to this being, why would anything we do register?
Its the arrogance of man where religion was born. We are clever therefore God loves us and made us in his image.
BS
I knew I'd get pulled up on that one! You're right it doesn't. So presumably the message would be stop- worrying about a meaningful existence and just enjoy it.
That's not bad actually! I'll go for that for a while:)
i'm a firm believer in christianity and noone i know does it.
You may be right, though the churches must be even more desperate. The huge majority of people in UK are too busy reading 'Hello' to give a shit about religion or atheism. Some thought of any kind should surely be welcomed by all faiths, or lack of them.
Hardly. Are they asking people to attend a church or believe in a holy book? No. Its telling people to get on with their lives, as there probably isn't a god anyway. Indoctrination? What an exaggeration. They are not brainwashing with threats of eternal damnation!
It's recognising the fact that no-one can factually state that god doesn't exist, anymore than it can be factually stated that it does, or that Russel's flying teapot does/doesn't.
It also saves him the hassle of being sued.
Are you seriously comparing those two lines in the ad with the Church's endless and relentless quest for converts/believers?
How does saying stop worrying and enjoy life fit into the indoctrination idea?
Yes, they say that because it's true.
The church has had 2,000 years of forcing its outmoded and life-diminishing views on others. It's time for people who think differently to say something for a change. Not frightened, are you?;)