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EE does phil know carl tried to kill him

monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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im finding this a bit confusing. did he know or not? i thought in their first scene after it that phil knew something was odd. his reaction when carl came in i thought he knew something but in fridays scenes and phil not bothering with carl he didnt seem to know anything? :confused:
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    HarloweHarlowe Posts: 20,022
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    Not yet it seems but he will clock on if spoilers are anything to go by.
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    Dr K NoisewaterDr K Noisewater Posts: 11,595
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    When Shirley told him that Max had been arrested and that she had seen Carl and Ian as thick as thieves (not forgetting its now common knowledge Ian is the witness) he seemed suspicious and it looked like he was working it out in his head. However since then he hasn't mentioned it once.
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    When Shirley told him that Max had been arrested and that she had seen Carl and Ian as thick as thieves (not forgetting its now common knowledge Ian is the witness) he seemed suspicious and it looked like he was working it out in his head. However since then he hasn't mentioned it once.

    do you think he knows deep down carl might have done something to shirl? i was thinking this is why he didnt want to deal with carl (i know i know people are going to question this) but like you said he hasnt mentioned anything about it since shirl left and he wouldnt deal with carl till peggy came. phil must have known shirley was going to deal with carl and since carl is still hanging around, shirl wouldnt have dealt with the problem


    if that makes sense
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    Admiral StarAdmiral Star Posts: 2,114
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    When Shirley told him that Max had been arrested and that she had seen Carl and Ian as thick as thieves (not forgetting its now common knowledge Ian is the witness) he seemed suspicious and it looked like he was working it out in his head. However since then he hasn't mentioned it once.

    Yeah Shirls warned him, he know Carls bad news. Even Phil can work something like that out. I doubt he thinks Max would try and kill him.
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    ryanr554ryanr554 Posts: 4,013
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    It's only a matter of time until he works it out. It's even more suspicious with Shirley gone. He will probably scare Ian into retracting his statement so him and Max can finish off (or just scare) Carl together.

    Ian will also probably blurt out that Carl "took care" of Shirley and that opens a whole new can of worms.
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    valdvald Posts: 46,057
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    Yeah Shirls warned him, he know Carls bad news. Even Phil can work something like that out. I doubt he thinks Max would try and kill him.

    But he might think that Max tried to kill Carl.
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    Admiral StarAdmiral Star Posts: 2,114
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    vald wrote: »
    But he might think that Max tried to kill Carl.

    Oh yeah there is that... but Shirls still did warn Phil.
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    Sick BulletSick Bullet Posts: 20,770
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    No but he knows Carl is bad news Ronnie most likely filled him in on a lot of things, he will found out soon that's for sure from Max or Shirley I reckon.
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    valdvald Posts: 46,057
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    No but he knows Carl is bad news Ronnie most likely filled him in on a lot of things, he will found out soon that's for sure from Max or Shirley I reckon.

    I'd rather he dangled Ian upside down from a bridge to get the truth out of him.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    He must have forgotten that Carl was driving like a total idiot.
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    O-JO-J Posts: 18,851
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    SULLA wrote: »
    He must have forgotten that Carl was driving like a total idiot.

    this, :)
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    kenny7kenny7 Posts: 1,782
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    He knows but he's just waiting for the right time for revenge!
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    kenny7 wrote: »
    He knows but he's just waiting for the right time for revenge!

    So does he know shirl was in danger over carl?
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    O-JO-J Posts: 18,851
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    So does he know shirl was in danger over carl?

    No, how would he?
    Don't make this into another Shirley thread please!

    this is about Phil and Carl!
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    benbenalen wrote: »
    No, how would he?
    Don't make this into another Shirley thread please!

    this is about Phil and Carl!

    Its my thread :p

    I was asking if he knew cos if he did then he would know theres a chance shirl was in danger. Thats why i made the thread lol

    Its about the whole storyline not just them :)
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    O-JO-J Posts: 18,851
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    Its my thread :p

    I was asking if he knew cos if he did then he would know theres a chance shirl was in danger. Thats why i made the thread lol

    Its about the whole storyline not just them :)

    Looool! that really made me laugh :D:D:D
    Did not realize that! :p

    I don't think he has a clue, as Shirl started annoying Carl just before she goes to Greece!
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    benbenalen wrote: »
    Looool! that really made me laugh :D:D:D
    Did not realize that! :p

    I don't think he has a clue, as Shirl started annoying Carl just before she goes to Greece!

    Yes but shirl told phil she would sort carl out. She obviously didnt, because phil had to do it himself..
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    O-JO-J Posts: 18,851
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    Yes but shirl told phil she would sort carl out. She obviously didnt, because phil had to do it himself..

    Do not remember that!
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    benbenalen wrote: »
    Do not remember that!

    You must have seen my posts in the other thread. Im asking a genuine q
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    Admiral StarAdmiral Star Posts: 2,114
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    He knows what Carl's like anyway. But that didnt stop him sending a poor woman off to do his dirty work.
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    Admiral StarAdmiral Star Posts: 2,114
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    benbenalen wrote: »
    Do not remember that!

    YouTube the episode it's all there to check for yourself. Incase you think anyone's telling you porkies.
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    pete137pete137 Posts: 18,392
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    So are we realy meant to believe that Carl would risk death to himself just to frame Max and get Phil out of the picture. Regardless of a seatbelt, an out of control crash like that at high speed means the car could have ended up anywhere and Carl could just as likely end up dead as Phil.
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    Admiral StarAdmiral Star Posts: 2,114
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    pete137 wrote: »
    So are we realy meant to believe that Carl would risk death to himself just to frame Max and get Phil out of the picture. Regardless of a seatbelt, an out of control crash like that at high speed means the car could have ended up anywhere and Carl could just as likely end up dead as Phil.

    Well he's a nutcase isn't he? :D
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Yes but shirl told phil she would sort carl out. She obviously didnt, because phil had to do it himself..
    benbenalen wrote: »
    Do not remember that!

    They don't have the time to show everything.;)
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    SULLA wrote: »
    They don't have the time to show everything.;)

    They did show that scene - shirl went to see him
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