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Spike/5USA LCN swap

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    CaminoCamino Posts: 13,029
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    its just sent an update to say 1 service added and its Spike on 31 so no retune needed
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,247
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    I had to retune. Prior to that I had a caption on what used to be Viva and LCN31 was still being labelled as 5USA.
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    BizmanBizman Posts: 749
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    Camino wrote: »
    ... no retune needed
    ntscuser wrote: »
    I had to retune.
    I think it depends on the age of the equipment. My friends TV checks for channel changes on switch-on whereas mine has to be done manually.
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    hyperstarspongehyperstarsponge Posts: 16,719
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    Bizman wrote: »
    I think it depends on the age of the equipment. My friends TV checks for channel changes on switch-on whereas mine has to be done manually.

    Modern HD boxes should do it itself, But older SD boxes may not.
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    pburke90pburke90 Posts: 14,758
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    So, now the channel has launched, when will it swap and go on 21?
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    Jamie_WweJamie_Wwe Posts: 12
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    Paddy C wrote: »
    So, now the channel has launched, when will it swap and go on 21?

    Its on channel 31, 5 USA is now on 21.
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    David_AylingDavid_Ayling Posts: 819
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    Paddy C wrote: »
    So, now the channel has launched, when will it swap and go on 21?

    It was done after 11am this morning. You need to rescan you box or TV if it dose happen by its self.
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    gomezzgomezz Posts: 44,633
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    I needed to delete the existing 5USA channel then manually rescan COM4 and COM6 to get that and Spike in the right place in the EPG with the right LCNs.
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    Mickey_TMickey_T Posts: 4,962
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    Modern HD boxes should do it itself,
    Should, but unfortunately mine doesn't. >:(
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    pburke90pburke90 Posts: 14,758
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    Apologies, I must have gotten confused.

    I assumed that 5 USA and Spike were going to swap so that Spike would be on 21, because Spike couldn't just launch on 21 right away due to EPG rules. If it is staying on 31 and 5 USA has now been upgraded to 21, well that is strange. You'd have thought they'd try and give Spike as big a push as they could.
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    omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,822
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    Spike is broadcasting as normal on satellite but currently has a "back at 11am" caption on Freeview, it seems the ghost of VIVA is using Spike's airtime from 9am-11am.
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    pburke90pburke90 Posts: 14,758
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    It';s only broadcasting teleshopping isn't it? Hardly a great loss to Freeview!
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    BigOrangeBigOrange Posts: 59,674
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    Paddy C wrote: »
    It';s only broadcasting teleshopping isn't it? Hardly a great loss to Freeview!
    No, programmes start at 9am on the satellite version.

    It means Freeview viewers won't be able to follow Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles on weekend mornings.
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    omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,822
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    Paddy C wrote: »
    It';s only broadcasting teleshopping isn't it? Hardly a great loss to Freeview!

    Teleshopping ends at 9am. Programmes like Bar Rescue and Cowboy Builders are on.
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    chrisychrisy Posts: 9,421
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    Dancc wrote: »
    No, programmes start at 9am on the satellite version.

    It means Freeview viewers won't be able to follow Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles on weekend mornings.

    It's strange that they've decided to put Viva on at those times, I was expecting them to move it over to SDN and share with one of C5's other channels, which are all showing teleshopping at that time of the morning. Heck, they could replace the entirety of C5+24's daytime with Viva, which would actually make a fair bit of sense.
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    SonOfPurpleSonOfPurple Posts: 2,653
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    It will all depend on what the contracts with the shopping advertisers/content providers say, but in theory at least, things could move about. Jewellery Maker have the 9am-1pm slot on 5*, now their only Freeview presence since they came off COM7, so they might have something to say about C5/Viacom altering their contracted hours. However, in the longer term I can see a compromise of some sort, for instance JM agreeing to a longer slot on a less prominent LCN, to create something along the lines of a Viva 6am-1pm/5* post-1pm split, with JM 9am-5pm within the C5 +24 teleshopping bloc, and Spike regaining the full hours on ARQB. Of course, all this is conditional on what happens in May with the outgoing BT Sport 1 capacity...
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    chrisychrisy Posts: 9,421
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    Of course, all this is conditional on what happens in May with the outgoing BT Sport 1 capacity...

    Hmm, that's a good point actually, as if Viacom have secured that in the longer term it wouldn't make sense to move Viva to a different mux temporarily...
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    AngusMastAngusMast Posts: 5,153
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    So what actually happened?

    Spike was allocated 74
    Then 5USA->VIVA, VIVA->Spike, Spike->5USA

    But did Viacom choose to make 5USA more prominent or did DUK not accept the placement of Spike on 21 because it is a brand new channel in the UK (DUK need a "compelling evidence" that a change would "reflect viewer or listener expectations.")

    I think the latter.
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,123
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    I've got Freeview via communal aerial so I don't have a box

    I've still got 5USA on 31 and a notice about Viva starting at 9am on channel 21

    I've done a rescan but no sign of Spike
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    johnathomejohnathome Posts: 1,283
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    I've got Freeview via communal aerial so I don't have a box

    I've still got 5USA on 31 and a notice about Viva starting at 9am on channel 21

    I've done a rescan but no sign of Spike

    Are you in a Freeview 'lite' area? That may explain why you can't get it.
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,123
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    johnathome wrote: »
    Are you in a Freeview 'lite' area? That may explain why you can't get it.

    I don't know what a Freeview lite area is.........:o

    I'm in the centre of London
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    johnathomejohnathome Posts: 1,283
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    I don't know what a Freeview lite area is.........:o

    I'm in the centre of London

    As it's not your aerial i guess you don't know what transmitter it's pointing at?

    Do you get Dave Ja Vu and Yesterday?
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,123
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    Yeah, I've got Dave Ja Vu on 25 and Yesterday on 19

    checked 31 again.............5USA !
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,123
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    Got it now !

    Done a Channel Scan..........it seems that when I did this yesterday I did an Update Scan rather than a Channel Scan.........

    (I've got Virgin cable TV so don't look at Freeview very often)
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    BizmanBizman Posts: 749
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    Teleshopping ends at 9am. Programmes like Bar Rescue and Cowboy Builders are on.
    I have just noticed that on Sundays and Mondays Spike's programmes (on Freeview) do not start until 11:00. From 9:00 to 11:00 there is a caption saying programmes start daily at 11a.m.
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