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UKIP/Nigel Farage Think They can Attract Labour Voters With Conservative Policies?...
Who is Nigel Farage trying to kid? He is an uber conservative with uber conserrvative economic views and policies but he thinks that he and UKIP are much more suited to Labour voters than Tory voters?!
Isn't is the case that Farage would rather have a Tory Government than a Labour Government so he is hoping to con Labour voters into voting for UKIP, hoping that Labour lose marginal seats because of defects to UKIP and that way, the Tories remain the biggest party?
His ultimate hope is that there will be a referendum on the EU and if it does come about and people vote to leave then he will do what he says he will do and will quit politics. That way he won't ever have to live up to delivering for Labour voters on domestic economic matters will he?
Do Labour voters really think that leave the worlds biggest and richest economic block will make them better off?
Isn't is the case that Farage would rather have a Tory Government than a Labour Government so he is hoping to con Labour voters into voting for UKIP, hoping that Labour lose marginal seats because of defects to UKIP and that way, the Tories remain the biggest party?
His ultimate hope is that there will be a referendum on the EU and if it does come about and people vote to leave then he will do what he says he will do and will quit politics. That way he won't ever have to live up to delivering for Labour voters on domestic economic matters will he?
Do Labour voters really think that leave the worlds biggest and richest economic block will make them better off?
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Labour voters can feel disillusioned with the system and feel strongly about Europe too. It's not just limited to Tories.
No I haven't seen UKIP's latest polling but what happens when Labour voters who voted UKIP realise that their economic policies are "not for them"?
its Labours working class seats they are aiming for, lowering income tax wil appeal.
Nobody. He's trying and succeeding massively, in engaging the British people with the political process. Everyone who cannot abide Cameron, Clegg or Milliband is listening to Farrage, because he's saying what they are thinking. Whether he can or will ever translate that into direct action, remains to be seen.
I doubt it to be honest. Ultimately Farage is no different to any of the other party leaders. He's had his snout in the trough of politics for a long long time and is as much a part of the 'establishment' as any of them.
Anyone tell me what UKIP's policies are on a living wage? Do they think there should be one? What rate do they think the minimum wage should be? What are their policies on the NHS, on tax credits, JSA? Are they in favour of zero hour contracts? Would they build council houses etc etc?
What makes Farage different is that he's organic.
The rest of them are manufactured.
Now then don't be asking awkward questions.
Based on a sample of around 124,000 British voters between April 2004 and April 2013 who stated support for a political party the "class" split was as follows:
Con
Professional/managerial middle class 44%
Routine non-manual 28%
Working class/other/never worked 28%
Lab
Professional/managerial middle class 36%
Routine non-manual 29%
Working class/other/never worked 35%
UKIP
Professional/managerial middle class 30%
Routine non-manual 27%
Working class/other/never worked 42%
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn05125.pdf
Original Source: (Ford & Goodwin; Revolt on the Right) British Elections Study Continuous Monitoring Survey 2004-2013)
They are committed to exactly the same spending plans as the Tories for at least the first two years of the next parliament.
So OP - bar the mansion tax which apparently people will have to volunteer themselves to pay:o is there much difference?
There is also a growing distaste for the London elite of professional politicians. People think they are all the same and just in it for themselves. No one expects UKIP to form the next government, but they can put pressure on the Lib/Lab/Con elite to listen to the people. They are a protest vote for many.
Many do, as do more than a few Labour MPs.
And there's also the issue that over the years, the Labour leadership have transformed themselves into a party that now barely resembles what it was originally. People look at the front bench and they see the same sort of politicians as the Tories - private educated, Oxbridge - who more or less have the same politics. Rightly or wrongly, the Blair government did a huge amount in getting private businesses involved in the NHS and other public services through schemes like PFI. The Labour party from what we've seen in recent years, are very much a Conservative-lite party, or least thats the perception.
Labour are not the party of the old white working class - much of which used to vote Tory - 33% of working class people voted for Thatcher. These voters returned to Blair in the 1990s but are disconnected now from Labour or Tories. Cue ukip going after their vote. They have suffered from immigration which from their point of view has massively driven down wages and upped rents and house prices, and they are anti EU. The 2 biggest motivators to vote UKIP are immigration and the EU.
Labour has always been the party for the metropolitan intellectual, interested in equal rights and progressive social policies. However it has also been the party for the lower paid worker simply looking for politicians to protect them from being exploited by big business, to help improve their standard of living. These kind of people currently feel threatened by things like immigration and EU membership, policies supported by the main parties, so it's really no surprise at all that UKIP should be attractive to them.
Isn't that the reason why UKIP are pulling in voters? Labour are the left wing of the conservative party and the conservatives are the right wing of the labour party. They only appeal to one section of the electorate. That's not so bad when the rest don't vote. But now UKIP are here appealing to the dissatisfied voter. Those voters for whom neither party represents any more.
They appeal to the low paid manual worker from the industrial city who twenty years ago would have voted labour religiously. While at the same time they appeal to the middle Englander from the leafy shire who is proud of Britain and her institutions and twenty years ago would never dream of voting other than Conservative. Both of whom labour and the conservatives took for granted and left behind in the dash for the centre ground.
Both groups are waking up to the fact that they are not represented and the best solution is UKIP who can represent the best of both the conservative party of old and the Labour party of old.
Apparently they are slowly losing the ethnic minority vote as well. I read that it was less than in the past. It may be due to minorities spreading out and abandoning the traditional communities. When they do they tend to become more individual in their voting.
Doesn't make an iota of difference. Just like all the others, he's after power for his own ends.
Not all labour voters were/are spotty students and belligerent unionised public sector workers.
They have some brass neck calling themselves UKIP
Yep, clocked that one a long time ago.