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watching the kerry katona progamme now..

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,654
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    worpler wrote: »
    I very rarely watch TV...that Claire from CAN is much more attractive than people make her sound....or maybe I've had too much mulled wine..:p

    .....should've hit the Absinthe!!!! :p
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    i4u wrote: »
    A good agent would have said look love take a year out, spend as much time with the kids as possible and get well, first.

    Instead we have yet another 'instant' fix, this time a boot camp. I'm guessing it has no commercial links to her agent.
    If she gets the 'snivels' she can always blame it on the coldness of the rink. :)

    No, a good FRIEND or answerable organisation would say that. Agents aren't either of those, they aren't regulated, they're effectively parasites, think Bebe in Frasier? Some agents will see an existing client through rehab IF they think there's something in it for them afterwards, for example John Noel Management sent Russell Brand to rehab when he was rock bottom (no pun intended).

    Lets face it though Katona probably wouldn't be here in a year if CAN hadn't have intervened!
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    lexi22 wrote: »
    Exactly, That's what a credible professional agent would do. And only look at the client's options for generating income once they have at least 6mths history of stable behaviour behind them.

    But then we're talking about CAN here...

    I'm not here to defend Clair or Katona but effectively that IS what Clair's done isn't it? She said no contact with Mark, move out of your home area, stay off drugs, regular drug testing, etc. The woman let Katona and her kids LIVE WITH HER whilst she did that fux sake how many people would do that?

    People have a strange idea what agents do and don't do on this thread. Katona would have found an agent, no problem, some sleazy guy in a shabby office somewhere sending her out to open lapdancing clubs or something. I think the reality is far more preferable.
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    ValderyValdery Posts: 4,100
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    No, a good FRIEND or answerable organisation would say that. Agents aren't either of those, they aren't regulated, they're effectively parasites, think Bebe in Frasier? Some agents will see an existing client through rehab IF they think there's something in it for them afterwards, for example John Noel Management sent Russell Brand to rehab when he was rock bottom (no pun intended).

    Lets face it though Katona probably wouldn't be here in a year if CAN hadn't have intervened![/quote]

    My sentiments entirely. What would anyone prefer? KK and her children as she and they were in the last show both her and Mark where in where their children were very unhappy to say the least; or now where KK and her children are down South in a more structured, stable, caring and supportive environment? I know what I prefer, if only for the children's sake. ;):)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,654
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    Valdery wrote: »
    No, a good FRIEND or answerable organisation would say that. Agents aren't either of those, they aren't regulated, they're effectively parasites, think Bebe in Frasier? Some agents will see an existing client through rehab IF they think there's something in it for them afterwards, for example John Noel Management sent Russell Brand to rehab when he was rock bottom (no pun intended).

    Lets face it though Katona probably wouldn't be here in a year if CAN hadn't have intervened![/quote]

    My sentiments entirely. What would anyone prefer? KK and her children as she and they were in the last show both her and Mark where in where their children were very unhappy to say the least; or now where KK and her children are down South in a more structured, stable, caring and supportive environment? I know what I prefer, if only for the children's sake. ;):)

    It's a very nice sentiment, Valdery, but most people won't give a fig - even if they pretend to.
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    ValderyValdery Posts: 4,100
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    OATZ MM wrote: »
    It's a very nice sentiment, Valdery, but most people won't give a fig - even if they pretend to.

    Now I think I'll hit the Absinthe!!!! :(
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,654
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    Valdery wrote: »
    Now I think I'll hit the Absinthe!!!! :(

    Sorry - but it's a very "me first" world.
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    Dancing GirlDancing Girl Posts: 8,209
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    I am just amazed that Claire from CANN has managed to get sixty thousand pounds for Kerry to appear on Dancing on Ice!! Obviously, if you work hard enough you can promote anyone!! Although the vast majority of the public are fed up with Kerry and her never ending problems, he "comebacks" her bi-polar condition and romance bust ups, she still can get sixty thousand pounds for a few weeks work!!
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    i4ui4u Posts: 55,005
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    No, a good FRIEND or answerable organisation would say that. Agents aren't either of those, they aren't regulated, they're effectively parasites, think Bebe in Frasier? Some agents will see an existing client through rehab IF they think there's something in it for them afterwards, for example John Noel Management sent Russell Brand to rehab when he was rock bottom (no pun intended).

    Lets face it though Katona probably wouldn't be here in a year if CAN hadn't have intervened!

    CAN specialise in shifting time, what is being shown now was filmed some time ago.

    Andre's and Price's split a classic example.

    CAN knew what they had recorded months earlier, when that footage was about to be broadcast stories began to appear in the press.

    The footage was shown and the split happened due to events that coincidently happened at the time the filmed material was aired.

    Just because something is publicly announced today, doesn't mean a strategy, agreement or contract was not negotiated ages ago.
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    bunny55 wrote: »
    Ive watched her shows. Its irritating to have Claire Powell constantly tell her that she has changed in the four months, off drugs, dumped the husband etc. Then to be told that OK had given her back the column (the one she doesnt write):rolleyes:

    The filmed abuse of her children was inexcusable and I feel that CAN TV are now editing this reality show to show her in a different light. Is it genuine? Doubt it.

    I really cant see the public buying into her again, but who knows. . How can anyone feel sympathy for someone who blew millions and expects to get it back again.

    I am afraid I agree with this.
    KK is likable in many ways but she really has had chance after chance after chance and those children have suffered.
    All that money wasted too. Unbelievable and she didn't seem to regret anything.

    It amazes me why the TV programme makers keep on giving us sob stories about the same old fading has beens.
    Why was Michael Barrymore the chosen subject of the programme about what his house means to him?
    Why is Boy George back on the TV after his vile crime?
    Why is Katie Price always on the TV as if anyone is still interested in her?

    Then there are other people who I enjoyed watching and listening to on TV like Carole Thatcher who got booted off all TV programmes for a green room comment.
    Also Angus Deayton, for something he did in his personal life.
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    i4ui4u Posts: 55,005
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    I am just amazed that Claire from CANN has managed to get sixty thousand pounds for Kerry to appear on Dancing on Ice!! Obviously, if you work hard enough you can promote anyone!! Although the vast majority of the public are fed up with Kerry and her never ending problems, he "comebacks" her bi-polar condition and romance bust ups, she still can get sixty thousand pounds for a few weeks work!!

    In olden days publishers used to pay singers to sing a song on the radio.

    Then record pluggers used to bung DJ's and radio producers favours to encourage certain records got aired or on the playlist.

    Read articles by these celebs, (or should I say their agents) and time again they feature brand names or another client of the agent.

    A photo shoot can't take place without a list of where the clothes were obtained being provided.

    Certain celebs are unable to appear on TV without wearing, carrying or promoting products with which they have a commercial connection.
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    fredsterfredster Posts: 31,802
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    I am just amazed that Claire from CANN has managed to get sixty thousand pounds for Kerry to appear on Dancing on Ice!! Obviously, if you work hard enough you can promote anyone!! Although the vast majority of the public are fed up with Kerry and her never ending problems, he "comebacks" her bi-polar condition and romance bust ups, she still can get sixty thousand pounds for a few weeks work!!

    Does that sixty thousand go towards her debts? Or is it into her pocket?
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    i4ui4u Posts: 55,005
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    worpler wrote: »
    Obviously I am bored...she is at that bootcamp thingy at the moment..

    Turns out the bootcamp is by pure coincidence another client of CAN Aassociates.

    Looks like Kerry was being used from the off by her agent?
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    i4ui4u Posts: 55,005
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    ^ I don't know if she blew £10m but that is the number being touted and I think she said it in the show.

    I agree if she has been avoiding / evading taxes then that is wrong but for sure that must have been investigated by Inland Revenue?

    I seriously doubt she actually earned much during the time she and Mark were wiping out her entire financial assets, did she actually do any work? She must have surely paid her taxes on the Iceland contract, she would have had to have an accountant deal with her finances when she got it?

    The tax related bankruptcy only related to the period 2004-2006, could there be issues related to 2007-2009 still to surface?
    Kerry Katona was declared bankrupt in August 2008. It is believed she had outstanding debts in the form of unpaid taxes from 2004 to 2006, amounting to £417,000, a figure which was later reduced to £82,000.

    She was only made bankrupt after a judge ordered the HMRC to take action or drop the case.

    Her lawyer repeatedly said a cheque was due to her, but a year later the Insolvency Agency extended her banruptcy indefinately.

    She has claimed there is a police investigation taking place, which suggests others may have taken her money, but I've not seen any official statements an investigation is taking place.

    If she was freelance/self employed Iceland would have paid her gross. It could be they paid one of the companies set up in her name.

    She was not dropped as the face of Iceland (reportedly paid £75,000 a year) till August 2009, a year after her bankruptcy.

    She's shown to have lied on all sorts of matters over the years, she couldn't even be honest when making a documentry for free.

    She appears to be at her happiest when she's paid to pose with her kids in photoshoots for magazines.
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    I am just amazed that Claire from CANN has managed to get sixty thousand pounds for Kerry to appear on Dancing on Ice!! Obviously, if you work hard enough you can promote anyone!! Although the vast majority of the public are fed up with Kerry and her never ending problems, he "comebacks" her bi-polar condition and romance bust ups, she still can get sixty thousand pounds for a few weeks work!!

    Claire is canny eh! She's connected and she's not daft. She wouldn't have offered Kerry a contract if she wasn't a dead cert money earner. I know a lot of people are fed up with Katona but she is extremely well known - personally I'd rather see her on a Sleb show than someone who once had a minor part in EE 12 years ago or whatever.

    This is the point I've been trying to make - that love her or hate her, or indifferent, Katona is capable of earning huge amounts of money. People just don't get the vast sums that are slung around the sleb circuit. It's simply ridiculous for people to suggest she shouldn't continue in her existing line of work. The preferred alternative seeming to be that because she's 'done wrong' she should simply give up, put her kids up for adoption, and check herself into a homeless hostel until she earns enough money from stacking baked beans to pay off her bankruptcy debt.
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    i4u wrote: »
    The tax related bankruptcy only related to the period 2004-2006, could there be issues related to 2007-2009 still to surface?



    She was only made bankrupt after a judge ordered the HMRC to take action or drop the case.

    Her lawyer repeatedly said a cheque was due to her, but a year later the Insolvency Agency extended her banruptcy indefinately.

    She has claimed there is a police investigation taking place, which suggests others may have taken her money, but I've not seen any official statements an investigation is taking place.

    If she was freelance/self employed Iceland would have paid her gross. It could be they paid one of the companies set up in her name.

    She was not dropped as the face of Iceland (reportedly paid £75,000 a year) till August 2009, a year after her bankruptcy.

    She's shown to have lied on all sorts of matters over the years, she couldn't even be honest when making a documentry for free.

    She appears to be at her happiest when she's paid to pose with her kids in photoshoots for magazines.

    I wouldn't dispute in any way it's highly possible Katona owes money to the Inland Revenue - maybe this is the 'debt' she's trying to pay off? If she's come to a private arrangement with the Inland Revenue, which is the normal route, they wouldn't be allowed by law to report that, under the Data Protection Act they'd be banned from releasing information about her confidential arrangements. If it had gone to court and judgement had been made, that would have been public information and reported.

    She did say in the latest show that she'd blown £10m but I think that's probably exaggerated. Whether she earned much money is unclear but for sure Mark has syphoned off a good chunk! As for Iceland, I wouldn't know if they paid her a lump sum for her contract at the time the deal was struck - she could technically be in breach of that contract and need to repay some of what they paid her? Seems the state she was in she was just giving the media plenty to work with for free rather than controlling the release of photos and stories in the way Claire is now. I know that journalist / film maker who was making the documentary where Mark and Kerry were shown arguing and emotionally abusing the kids was binned off by Katona and Mark - maybe she sold the footage privately?
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    Feel sorry for that Adam bloke, he thought his ship had come in, the relationship was so forced and then she dropped him. I would be so embarassed
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    Love how Kez holds in her tum in her bikini hee hee ... fair play to her for losing weight tho. God the boy'f is hardly a huge step up from Croft!!!
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    Sparkling GemSparkling Gem Posts: 149
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    Christ:eek:
    How many dvd's do you have to sell to get to no1:confused:
    Apparently her fitness dvd is going to no 1 and itv2 have given her a 3 yr deal.:eek:
    How is this drug addled numpty entertaining:confused:
    I am so disappointed that people are being conned by all of this.
    I love DOI,but i am not watching it because she is on it.
    I wish her no harm, but I don't think she deserves the spot and I cannot bare to see her on my tv, this comes from someone who used to feel really sorry for her.

    Rant over:o
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    Christ:eek:
    How many dvd's do you have to sell to get to no1:confused:
    Apparently her fitness dvd is going to no 1 and itv2 have given her a 3 yr deal.:eek:
    How is this drug addled numpty entertaining:confused:
    I am so disappointed that people are being conned by all of this.
    I love DOI,but i am not watching it because she is on it.
    I wish her no harm, but I don't think she deserves the spot and I cannot bare to see her on my tv, this comes from someone who used to feel really sorry for her.

    Rant over:o

    You have read my mind, I don't buy mags with her on, switch tv over if she is on. The no 1 dvd is no dead cert its CAN spin. I too will be disappointed if people buy into this.
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    I think she will be a huge fail on DOI due to her poor work ethic. There was a telltale insight at boot camp when the instructor referred to her as the Warrington windger. I think she will be exactly the same on DOI when the hard work kicks in she will come up with excuse after excuse to slack off.
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    A quick question on Kerry Katonas show. on the last show on itv2 tonight she said to her daughter something about have i ever been drunk in front of my kids to the eldest daughter and daughter said no. Now i could have sworn when she was on mtv shows about her she was drunk in front of her kids.

    Can anyone tell me if she ever has been drunk in front of her kids or not..
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    I can never understand a word she says.
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    Sparkling GemSparkling Gem Posts: 149
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    claire33 wrote: »
    A quick question on Kerry Katonas show. on the last show on itv2 tonight she said to her daughter something about have i ever been drunk in front of my kids to the eldest daughter and daughter said no. Now i could have sworn when she was on mtv shows about her she was drunk in front of her kids.

    Can anyone tell me if she ever has been drunk in front of her kids or not..

    Couldn't tell you Claire33, I only ever watched one show on her and that was the c4 documentary and she was certianly on something (not bipolar meds) and treating her kids awfully!
    She disgusts me and I couldn't sit through one of her shows and won't be watching DOI until her whining ass is booted off!
    Even asking them that on camera, in order to make herself look better for a tv show makes me mad!
    God only knows the sort of people who are buying her fitness dvd, just the advert for it makes me cringe!:eek:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,304
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    I reckon DOI is her one shot at rehabilitating her reputation. If she should be caught whining and shirking, it'll kill off someone who's reputed for no real talent or self discipline. It won't be enough to have a pretty face anymore.
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