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SNP threatens revenge against businesses that speak out

clinchclinch Posts: 11,574
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Don't think this will calm the nerves of companies based in Scotland. I suspect even more will now be looking to leave.
Alex Salmond’s former mentor today promised a “day of reckoning” for big business if Scots vote for independence including the nationalisation of BP, the break-up of the banks and a boycott of John Lewis.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11091801/Big-business-warned-of-day-of-reckoning-if-Scots-vote-Yes.html
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 721
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    clinch wrote: »
    Don't think this will calm the nerves of companies based in Scotland. I suspect even more will now be looking to leave.



    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11091801/Big-business-warned-of-day-of-reckoning-if-Scots-vote-Yes.html

    He has well and truly lost it (if you didn't think he'd lost it a long time ago). Anyone who votes 'Yes' surely knows this is all about him?
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    clinchclinch Posts: 11,574
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    simsini wrote: »
    He has well and truly lost it (if you didn't think he'd lost it a long time ago). Anyone who votes 'Yes' surely knows this is all about him?

    There has been plenty of anecdotal evidence of Nats intimidating businesses in Scotland, but this is so overt I am absolutely staggered.
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    MajlisMajlis Posts: 31,362
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    Alex Salmond’s former mentor today promised a “day of reckoning” for big business if Scots vote for independence including the nationalisation of BP, the break-up of the banks and a boycott of John Lewis.

    How can he nationalise BP? - its a British company, nothing to do with Scotland. :confused:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,916
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    If this was UKIP, the Yes Siree's would be scoffing at numpty comments like this.

    If nobody thought this was about power and more about what is right for Scotland, then they may now think differently if they read Sillar's comments.
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    If nobody thought this was about power and more about what is right for Scotland, then they may now think differently if they read Sillar's comments.

    Exactly, for many of the nationalist socialist blueshirt thugs it's not about Scotland at all, it's about creating a Marxist state.
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    How do you think Cameron threatened the big companies so they all spoke in unison supporting a No vote within couple of days. There is no dispute that Cameron spoke to them and they came out in support straight away, so there was almost definitely some coercion.
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    How do you think Cameron threatened the big companies so they all spoke in unison supporting a No vote within couple of days. .

    Paranoid rubbish. When a Yes vote looked unlikely, the companies did not want to speak publicly because they knew that they'd be berated by Salmond and his gang of blueshirt nationalist socialist thugs. As soon as the Yes vote took the lead, they knew they had to speak out because they have a duty to their shareholders, customers and employees to tell them what the implications of an independent Scotland would be.
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    TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    If this was said in England there would be three cheers.


    The establishment have had it coming for years, maybe Scottish independence would trigger something in the rest of the UK?

    And do the banks and business elite fear that I wonder?
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    MajlisMajlis Posts: 31,362
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    How do you think Cameron threatened the big companies so they all spoke in unison supporting a No vote within couple of days. There is no dispute that Cameron spoke to them and they came out in support straight away, so there was almost definitely some coercion.

    Tinfoil hat for Mr Smudge please.. :D
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    CelticMythCelticMyth Posts: 3,090
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    The man is a complete fool and already seems to be drunk with power.
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    Hit Em Up StyleHit Em Up Style Posts: 12,141
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    They really are believing their own hype now.
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    TankyTanky Posts: 3,647
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    Just looking at the list of companies against independence, if you were to go against all of them, there won't be any businesses left in Scotland and to trade with. Why would you want to alienate companies that do business in Scotland and would help support the Scottish economy in the event of independence?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,916
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    Tanky wrote: »
    Just looking at the list of companies against independence, if you were to go against all of them, there won't be any businesses left in Scotland and to trade with. Why would you want to alienate companies that do business in Scotland and would help support the Scottish economy in the event of independence?

    They are beating their chest and trying to look important to the point of blackmail, but to big business, an independent Scotland will just be a small minnow in a big pond and only represent a small percentage of their customer base.

    Still, someone said the other day that Scots will all start supporting their local businesses and boycott the larger ones. What they failed to account for was where the local businesses will be buying their stock from, or whether the £1.89 2 litre bottle of milk is a small price to pay compared to the £1 bottle from Tesco.
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    james_killroyjames_killroy Posts: 1,210
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    I'm convinced that Salmond is on the verge of a breakdown or something. His behaviour has been erratic and it seems everywhere he goes the YES campaign have a group of people in place to bow and cheer like he is some sort of god. So its giving the impression he is adored when I actually think its the opposit. I don't think his ego is doing him any favours.
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    StykerStyker Posts: 49,885
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    GOOD! I hope they tell Standard Life and co to clear off and if they don't that the yes voters vote with their feet with the businesses trying to scaremonger people into voting no!
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    Mc256Mc256 Posts: 362
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    CelticMyth wrote: »
    The man is a complete fool and already seems to be drunk with power.

    Hit the nail on the head here.

    Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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    Gary_LandyFanGary_LandyFan Posts: 3,824
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    Styker wrote: »
    GOOD! I hope they tell Standard Life and co to clear off and if they don't that the yes voters vote with their feet with the businesses trying to scaremonger people into voting no!
    No it's letting the people know the consequences of voting for Independence...

    The SNP may like to sell the lie that not much will change in Scotland but they will rule themselves, but that is far from Reality.

    The Electorate deserve to know what the consequences will be, shame the SNP don't agree... Had they been truthful about the risks they probably would have had more people voting yes.
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    StykerStyker Posts: 49,885
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    No it's letting the people know the consequences of voting for Independence...

    The SNP may like to sell the lie that not much will change in Scotland but they will rule themselves, but that is far from Reality.

    The Electorate deserve to know what the consequences will be, shame the SNP don't agree... Had they been truthful about the risks they probably would have had more people voting yes.

    I don't accept that. I think its scaremongering and I hope the cost to those companies is that they lose millions of customers. I haven't been buying my fuel from BP for some time now and have been using petrol stations run by the CO-OP and I will endevour to do so even more and I certainly won't be giving any of my money/business to Standard Life now or in the future. I hope loads of others do the same.
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    bhoy07bhoy07 Posts: 25,036
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    Styker wrote: »
    I don't accept that. I think its scaremongering and I hope the cost to those companies is that they lose millions of customers. I haven't been buying my fuel from BP for some time now and have been using petrol stations run by the CO-OP and I will endevour to do so even more and I certainly won't be giving any of my money/business to Standard Life now or in the future. I hope loads of others do the same.

    Losing millions of customers = losing millions of jobs.

    Tbh I think standard life would rather keep 90% of its customer base instead of the 10% in Scotland.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    Ignoring the fact BP is British not Scottish, it has assets of US$ 305.690 billion and equity of US$ 130.407 billion, how the hell is the Scottish government supposed to finance it's nationalisation?
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    *Sparkle**Sparkle* Posts: 10,957
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    Still, someone said the other day that Scots will all start supporting their local businesses and boycott the larger ones. What they failed to account for was where the local businesses will be buying their stock from, or whether the £1.89 2 litre bottle of milk is a small price to pay compared to the £1 bottle from Tesco.

    I'm always in favour of people supporting small businesses, but people are always claiming they'll 'never shop in that new Tesco', but do so as soon as it's convenient for them.

    There was a woman at my work who started ranting about how disgraceful it was for RBS to 'blackmail them' and they'd be switching bank accounts, or something to that effect. I'm not sure if she'd follow through, but she did seem to genuinely believe that a business alerting their shareholders and the market of their plans, was all done with the specific intention of winding people up. It just goes to show how ignorant a lot of people are to the basic rules/practices of business.

    Any bank remaining in an independent Scotland is likely to face higher costs of borrowing, and that's where profits will be affected. I wonder how keen people will be to get their mortgage from a Scottish only bank, if the ones relocated to rUK have much lower interest rates?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,916
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    Styker wrote: »
    I don't accept that. I think its scaremongering and I hope the cost to those companies is that they lose millions of customers. I haven't been buying my fuel from BP for some time now and have been using petrol stations run by the CO-OP and I will endevour to do so even more and I certainly won't be giving any of my money/business to Standard Life now or in the future. I hope loads of others do the same.

    Is that the same Co-op as the one with its head office in Manchester?
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    StykerStyker Posts: 49,885
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    Is that the same Co-op as the one with its head office in Manchester?

    I have no problem with that. Its those who are scaremongering about relocating from Scotland to England that bugs me and I think the UK is too London centric so I don't have a problem with other parts of England getting a slice of the cake too.
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    James2001James2001 Posts: 73,678
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    The mask's been slipping on the Yes campaign the past few days, and it's genuinely scary. What sort of country would an independent Scotland be with these sorts of people in charge?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    *Sparkle* wrote: »
    There was a woman at my work who started ranting about how disgraceful it was for RBS to 'blackmail them' and they'd be switching bank accounts, or something to that effect. I'm not sure if she'd follow through, but she did seem to genuinely believe that a business alerting their shareholders and the market of their plans, was all done with the specific intention of winding people up. It just goes to show how ignorant a lot of people are to the basic rules/practices of business.

    Any bank remaining in an independent Scotland is likely to face higher costs of borrowing, and that's where profits will be affected. I wonder how keen people will be to get their mortgage from a Scottish only bank, if the ones relocated to rUK have much lower interest rates?

    I believe there's an EU law that implies a bank should be located in the same country as the majority of it's customers. So theoretically should Scotland become independent, they'll have to leave the country or risk breaking EU law...
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