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Is it acceptable for judges to be fans of a contestant, or should they be impartial?
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On ITT, Zoe said the judges were fans of a certain contestant; and at least one of the judges said it themself during the final. That makes me wonder whether they can be judging fairly.
I think many agree that judges shouldn't be fans. Just look at all the complaints that appear when people think someone is the judges' favourite. (The disagreement is more about who, if anyone, the favourite is.)
I'm often sceptical of the idea that the judges have favourites in that sense (rather than just thinking someone is the best dancer because of how they've danced), but it's a different story if the judges are fans of a contestant. That casts real doubt on whether they are sufficiently impartial, imo.
I think many agree that judges shouldn't be fans. Just look at all the complaints that appear when people think someone is the judges' favourite. (The disagreement is more about who, if anyone, the favourite is.)
I'm often sceptical of the idea that the judges have favourites in that sense (rather than just thinking someone is the best dancer because of how they've danced), but it's a different story if the judges are fans of a contestant. That casts real doubt on whether they are sufficiently impartial, imo.
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Pixie's latin and ballroom technique was not that great but because she was all jazz hands and pirouettes Craig loved her.
"Simon's up next, so Darcy is hunting for her 12 paddle"
It seems they all probably showed it, for Zoe to tell the contestant the judges were fans.
Obviously for that system to work properly another judge or two apart from Craig would need to employ their low paddles too (so that it's not Craig's mark dropped every time)...but that's fine with me.
Who did Craig give 10s to?
so he can spank her with it
Caroline:
Craig 8.3
Darcy 8.8
Len 8.8
Bruno 9.1
Frankie:
Craig 8.1
Darcy 8.6
Len 9.0
Bruno 9.1
Simon:
Craig 7.4
Darcy 8.6
Len 8.5
Bruno 8.4
It seems that, by that, Craig and Darcey favoured Caroline, Len favoured Frankie, and Bruno couldn't decide between F & C.
I'd like to see that adopted. I think they are currently very inconsistent with their scores, sometimes being picky about technique, sometimes being carried away by the performance so the scores end up very random.
But then, it suits the show more to have the ability to manipulate the scoring when it suits them with the current system.
They will inevitably have favourites. Their marking should be impartial though.
Craig is used to produce the right total. He distinguishes the 39 from the 40 , and the 35 from the 36. He also stops everyone weak getting 28 every week by opning up 24-28. . I think they think its easier to have one baddie, than to have an anti-judge vote because two people have given someone a (realistically) low mark. Arlene and Craig was overkill. You now have the right order produced - while 3 judges remain looking likeable, and someone whose judgement is more likely to be followed. .
Of course, part of being 'entertaining' is not to wildly insult the viewers' intelligence by conspicuously over-marking or under-marking.
As said before, the producers really really don't care who is top/bottom of the leaderboard. ALL they care about is ratings ratings ratings.
That would work if there were judges who were able to judge technique, but as it stands, only Len is able to do that.
If they ditched Darcey and brought in someone like Karen Hardy (not that I'm a particular fan of hers!) they could then have Len & Karen judge technique and Craig & Bruno judge performance/artistry.
If that is what is happening, it galvanises votes. So it does the job they want it to do.
Exactly.
but no adult over the age of 18 should ever be a "fan"
As it's an Entertainment show, the judges are there to add to the entertainment - after all, we're all supposed to be voting for our favourites, so why should the judges be any different!
Of the final 3 - Craig favoured Caroline and didn't like Frankie, Darcey favoured Simon, Len favoured Frankie and Bruno was just very excited about everyone!
At the end of the day, when it gets to the final the judges don't make any difference at all - they might as well give everyone 10s all the way - as it's down entirely to the viewer vote.