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edited 18/03/23 - 16:14 in Broadcasting #1
Any Londoners excited/enthused/mildly looking forward to London Live's launch next Monday?

Five-and-a-half hours worth of daily news is certainly going to take some beating by the BBC and ITV.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    Winger wrote: »
    Any Londoners excited/enthused/mildly looking forward to London Live's launch next Monday?

    Five-and-a-half hours worth of daily news is certainly going to take some beating by the BBC and ITV.

    As long as it's not five-and-a-half hours of Boris Johnson as per the BBC and ITV local news in London. Does anyone know who the presenters are ?
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    NosediveNosedive Posts: 6,602
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    Winger wrote: »
    Any Londoners excited/enthused/mildly looking forward to London Live's launch next Monday?

    Five-and-a-half hours worth of daily news is certainly going to take some beating by the BBC and ITV.

    As long as it doesn't go the way of that last abortion of a london station, Live TV or something, back in the nineties. They ended up showing topless darts and programmes like strip masterbrain. It certainly died a death.
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    Rowan HedgeRowan Hedge Posts: 3,861
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    All local tv is destined to die, London live will be bankrupt within a year.
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    BluescopeBluescope Posts: 3,432
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    Winger wrote: »
    Any Londoners excited/enthused/mildly looking forward to London Live's launch next Monday?

    Five-and-a-half hours worth of daily news is certainly going to take some beating by the BBC and ITV.

    I actually live a little way outside of London but I am looking forward to the channel as I often have to go their for work. I just hope it is not going to be all news but focus on a spectrum across London. So much going on in the capital it might be nice to have a TV channel which picks up on local events and issues that the main stream channels don't/ With the BBC moving up north maybe it will leave a gap for London Live to fill
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    mike65mike65 Posts: 11,386
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    Topless darts anyone?
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    tedjrrtedjrr Posts: 2,935
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    Does anyone know when the Brighton licence from Whitehawk Hill is coming live?
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    SkyPlatinumSkyPlatinum Posts: 871
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    I live in Colchester, Essex. Outside of the terrestrial digital area of london live but a big commuter town . Anybody know if it will be on virgin in colchester??
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    BluescopeBluescope Posts: 3,432
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    I live in Colchester, Essex. Outside of the terrestrial digital area of london live but a big commuter town . Anybody know if it will be on virgin in colchester??

    I retuned my TV only last week and discovered London Live first I heard of it. I assume as I have the channel I will be able to pick it up. However from the press I don't believe it is just restricted to the London area it is going out over freeview, sky and virgin so you can watch it anywhere I assume.

    London Live will be available on Freeview channel 8, Sky channel 117 and Virgin Media channel 159. London Live executives had been pushing for a more high-profile slot on Virgin Media's cable TV service.
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    sparkie70sparkie70 Posts: 3,053
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    Living outside the M25, I don't expect it to cover stories from where I am so no change from BBC London or London Tonight. We are told that there is not a sofa in sight so no DFS ads:D.

    They seem to be aiming for a 20's, 30's year old audience which might make sense seeing BBC3 might close on freeview..
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    SkyPlatinumSkyPlatinum Posts: 871
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    Bluescope wrote: »
    I retuned my TV only last week and discovered London Live first I heard of it. I assume as I have the channel I will be able to pick it up. However from the press I don't believe it is just restricted to the London area it is going out over freeview, sky and virgin so you can watch it anywhere I assume.

    London Live will be available on Freeview channel 8, Sky channel 117 and Virgin Media channel 159. London Live executives had been pushing for a more high-profile slot on Virgin Media's cable TV service.

    When you say retuned do you mean on the tv digital tuner rather then sky? Do you live in Colchester Bluescope?
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    bringbackGalaxybringbackGalaxy Posts: 1,363
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    Nosedive wrote: »
    As long as it doesn't go the way of that last abortion of a london station, Live TV or something, back in the nineties. They ended up showing topless darts and programmes like strip masterbrain. It certainly died a death.

    Nothing wrong with topless darts, or the weather in Norwegian:D
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    PrinceOfDenmarkPrinceOfDenmark Posts: 2,761
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    Winger wrote: »
    Any Londoners excited/enthused/mildly looking forward to London Live's launch next Monday?

    Five-and-a-half hours worth of daily news is certainly going to take some beating by the BBC and ITV.

    Given that BBC London can't fill the main local bulletin without resorting to repeating national news, it will be interesting to see how this pans out. Also would be interested to know the numbers of reporters involved when comparing the output.
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    TomM44TomM44 Posts: 338
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    All local tv is destined to die, London live will be bankrupt within a year.
    Agreed. As I've said before, most local commercial radio stations have been gobbled up by large groups due to the lack of advertising revenue.
    Only one of Jeremy Hunt's daft decisions.
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    sparkie70sparkie70 Posts: 3,053
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    TomM44 wrote: »
    Agreed. As I've said before, most local commercial radio stations have been gobbled up by large groups due to the lack of advertising revenue.
    Only one of Jeremy Hunt's daft decisions.

    You mean the likes of GWR, GCAP & now Global snapping up rivals with local Hearts having a far bit of local advertising.

    We could see something like 20 new local channels across the UK by the end of the year. OK a few might not launch but are you saying these people have all lost their marbles.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,967
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    In general Local TV will never work commcialy as ITV and ILR have shown recently. London live will most likely never make a profit or at at least only small profits.

    However they are going to repeat good programmes which are linked to London from BBC/C4, if they accept like the ES it will make a loss and focus on good current affairs/news than critically it might work.

    What would help would be to expand the signal area to Berkshire Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire, Dorset, Essex, Hampshire, Hertfordshire, Kent, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire, Suffolk, Surrey, Sussex, Wiltshire (or at least most of them).

    That would give a population of over 20 million and home to over 50% of UK GDP, which would be big enough for a TV Station surely?
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    sparkie70sparkie70 Posts: 3,053
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    ITN Source wrote: »
    In general Local TV will never work commcialy as ITV and ILR have shown recently. London live will most likely never make a profit or at at least only small profits.

    However they are going to repeat good programmes which are linked to London from BBC/C4, if they accept like the ES it will make a loss and focus on good current affairs/news than critically it might work.

    What would help would be to expand the signal area to Berkshire Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire, Dorset, Essex, Hampshire, Hertfordshire, Kent, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire, Suffolk, Surrey, Sussex, Wiltshire (or at least most of them).

    That would give a population of over 20 million and home to over 50% of UK GDP, which would be big enough for a TV Station surely?

    96.4 The Eagle (Guildford) going 18 years, Estuary tv (Grimsby) going 15 years or something.
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    RadiomikeRadiomike Posts: 7,952
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    ITN Source wrote: »
    In general Local TV will never work commcialy as ITV and ILR have shown recently. London live will most likely never make a profit or at at least only small profits.

    However they are going to repeat good programmes which are linked to London from BBC/C4, if they accept like the ES it will make a loss and focus on good current affairs/news than critically it might work.

    What would help would be to expand the signal area to Berkshire Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire, Dorset, Essex, Hampshire, Hertfordshire, Kent, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire, Suffolk, Surrey, Sussex, Wiltshire (or at least most of them).

    That would give a population of over 20 million and home to over 50% of UK GDP, which would be big enough for a TV Station surely?

    But then it wouldn't be a local TV station, thereby completely negating the whole point of what local TV is supposed to be about.:confused:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,967
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    sparkie70 wrote: »
    96.4 The Eagle (Guildford) going 18 years, Estuary tv (Grimsby) going 15 years or something.

    Is Estuary TV not owned by the Grimsby Institute of Further & Higher Education?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,967
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    Radiomike wrote: »
    But then it wouldn't be a local TV station, thereby completely negating the whole point of what local TV is supposed to be about.:confused:

    That is point, you can't do Local TV unless it is not-for-profit.

    Besides London Live is more "Regional" due to its size and population area...
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    sparkie70sparkie70 Posts: 3,053
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    ITN Source wrote: »
    Is Estuary TV not owned by the Grimsby Institute of Further & Higher Education?

    It is & has only been on Freeview ( Humberside ) November / December.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,967
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    sparkie70 wrote: »
    It is & has only been on Freeview ( Humberside ) November / December.

    My point is that it is owned by a not-for-profit body...
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    sparkie70sparkie70 Posts: 3,053
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    ITN Source wrote: »
    My point is that it is owned by a not-for-profit body...

    For me it boils down to the owners & each local tv should have good connections to local universities, arts bodies & so on. I don't agree that one has to buy BBC, itv or C4 programming but have some good thinking ideas.

    I have my doubts on some areas as they are not large enough but for the most I say yes.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,967
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    sparkie70 wrote: »
    For me it boils down to the owners & each local tv should have good connections to local universities, arts bodies & so on. I don't agree that one has to buy BBC, itv or C4 programming but have some good thinking ideas.

    I have my doubts on some areas as they are not large enough but for the most I say yes.

    I agree, all I am saying is that pretty much all the stations will remain loss making and thus would need to be operated on a non-for-profit basis with ties to universities/arts bodies.

    Personally it should be more "regional" and less "local"
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    DragonQDragonQ Posts: 4,807
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    Has anyone actually seen US local news? If it's going to be like that I won't be watching.
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    sparkie70sparkie70 Posts: 3,053
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    ITN Source wrote: »
    I agree, all I am saying is that pretty much all the stations will remain loss making and thus would need to be operated on a non-for-profit basis with ties to universities/arts bodies.

    Personally it should be more "regional" and less "local"

    I would say it is far too local in the south ( outside London ) than the North of England which most are in big cities like Leeds, Newcastle & Liverpool. Here there are plans for Southampton, Brighton, Reading, Basingstoke, Oxford & Guildford.

    A south Coast, Thames Valley & Southeast service would be fine for me.
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