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houdini, channel 4

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Just watched this on catch-up from yetserday, I thought it was very good, and learnt some things about his life, I did not know, great acting as well from Adrien Brody, and the cast.
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    eye3eye3 Posts: 2,551
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    I just checked online and many of the incidents shown are not fact
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    Omniconsumer93Omniconsumer93 Posts: 735
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    eye3 wrote: »
    I just checked online and many of the incidents shown are not fact

    Maybe because it's a drama and not a documentary.

    I've recorded this, hoping I get chance to watch it when I get home from work tomorrow.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    eye3 wrote: »
    I just checked online and many of the incidents shown are not fact

    Really, that a shame, must admit I did not check, still a good drama.
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    Torch81Torch81 Posts: 15,621
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    I don't know enough about his life story to know if it was historically correct or not but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Although, having said that I did think it jumped around all over the place in terms of narrative and story line.
    I thought the acting was excellent, particularly Adrien Brody (and even Barry from Eastenders in his brief scene as an American reporter).
    I'll definitely watch part 2 on Sunday. The Virgin on screen guide says about it... (in his later years)... "Houdini works to expose fake magicians and spiritualists", but surely that's ultimately what he was himself? None of them are ever 'real' its just all about admittedly clever trickery and convincing deception.
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    Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    The choppy editing, when one continuous shot would have sufficed, I could have done without.
    What's the punch in the stomach thing supposed to be 'about', I'm guessing there's a metaphor there, it was used a bit too much just to be a link to what killed him.
    I wasn't totally concentrating though, so might have missed something.
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    ......................What's the punch in the stomach thing supposed to be 'about', I'm guessing there's a metaphor there, it was used a bit too much just to be a link to what killed him..............................

    I'm guessing it's just to show that he was accustomed to issuing that type of challenge. So that the circumstances of his death don't come out of the blue.
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    Chas1989Chas1989 Posts: 157
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    Watched this earlier. It was a decent watch but pretty obvious that a lot of the stuff shown wasn't true.

    Adrien Brody was pretty good as Houdini i thought. Will give part 2 a watch.
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    RadiomaniacRadiomaniac Posts: 43,510
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    I enjoyed it, but would rather see only the truth.
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    Tom2023Tom2023 Posts: 2,059
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    eye3 wrote: »
    I just checked online and many of the incidents shown are not fact

    If a program is going to be based on and named after a real life historical character then I expect it to stick largely to the facts.
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    gomezzgomezz Posts: 44,625
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    Even if it is about a real life character who made their name dealing in illusion?
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    donna255donna255 Posts: 10,176
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    It said based on a book, not sure if it was a true bio or fiction.

    Houdini the psychology and the mystery or might have been magic??? Didn't catch the author.
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    jsmith99jsmith99 Posts: 20,382
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    eye3 wrote: »
    I just checked online and many of the incidents shown are not fact

    You managed to find a website called "Tricks Houdini didn't Perform"? Or do you mean you simply failed to find anything to say he did do them?

    Or did you find a webpage about either the book or programme, which pointed this out?

    It makes a difference.
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    Tom2023Tom2023 Posts: 2,059
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    I think it's okay to play around with a fictional character. When they have run out of James Bond books why not write another in the style of...

    Or Sherlock Holmes. Why not bring him up to date.

    But to play around with a character who lived a real life is not on.
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    CentaurionCentaurion Posts: 2,060
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    Strange casting, Brody is tall, lean and angular, Houdini was small ,compact and muscular.

    His life was interesting enough, no need to invent situations that didn't happen.
    I like the look of it, the Yanks do this early 20th century period drama very well.
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    eye3eye3 Posts: 2,551
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    It was made for or by the history channel in the us so a lot of people aren't happy that fact merged with fiction
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    What was the whole link with him being contacted by someone in government - something to do with spying?. I dont know Houdinis (real) story - I didn't even know what had killed him until I read a mention on twitter :-/ the assistant, was he based on someone in real life?.
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    cliveb2005cliveb2005 Posts: 665
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    I thought the whole thing was slick, glossy and very easy to watch. It flowed well. Am I the only only that thought there were ad breaks every few minutes??
    Looking forward to part 2.
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    eye3eye3 Posts: 2,551
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    IzzyS wrote: »
    What was the whole link with him being contacted by someone in government - something to do with spying?. I dont know Houdinis (real) story - I didn't even know what had killed him until I read a mention on twitter :-/ the assistant, was he based on someone in real life?.
    His assistant was british not American and not from a magic shop
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    RedSnapperRedSnapper Posts: 2,569
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    Amazing the number of people above who obviously missed the start which said "this story is true and also fiction" - decide which is which.
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    RadiomaniacRadiomaniac Posts: 43,510
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    RedSnapper wrote: »
    Amazing the number of people above who obviously missed the start which said "this story is true and also fiction" - decide which is which.

    Well, seeing as I tuned in halfway through, yes, I did miss that at the start.
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    eye3 wrote: »
    His assistant was british not American and not from a magic shop

    You don't see many of those, these days.
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    Prince MonaluluPrince Monalulu Posts: 35,900
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    RedSnapper wrote: »
    Amazing the number of people above who obviously missed the start which said "this story is true and also fiction" - decide which is which.

    I didn't see the beginning either, missed the first couple of minutes.
    gomezz wrote: »
    Even if it is about a real life character who made their name dealing in illusion?

    Seems like they've used the fact that he was an illusionist as licence to 'spice things up'
    I know next to buggerall about his life, so I've got no clue what bits are true and fake.
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    I didn't see the beginning either, missed the first couple of minutes.



    Seems like they've used the fact that he was an illusionist as licence to 'spice things up'
    I know next to buggerall about his life, so I've got no clue what bits are true and fake.

    Same here.
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    jerseyporterjerseyporter Posts: 2,332
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    The choppy editing, when one continuous shot would have sufficed, I could have done without.
    What's the punch in the stomach thing supposed to be 'about', I'm guessing there's a metaphor there, it was used a bit too much just to be a link to what killed him.
    I wasn't totally concentrating though, so might have missed something.
    jsmith99 wrote: »
    I'm guessing it's just to show that he was accustomed to issuing that type of challenge. So that the circumstances of his death don't come out of the blue.

    It is said that Houdini often proclaimed that he could survive any blow to his abdomen - hence many people being given the chance to land a blow over the years. It is very relevant to see this established because it was indirectly, to a greater or lesser extent, involved in his death - a student had asked if the claim about the blow to the stomach was true, but started landing the blows before Houdini had properly tensed the muscles in his stomach. This hastened the rupturing of the appendix that was already 'rumbling' in Houdini's abdomen, which in turn eventually led to his death a few days later (Houdini initially didn't seek medical help, and when he did it was too late). Ironically he died on Halloween of 1926, 7 days after the initial blows to the stomach. I'd imagine that's why they're labouring this from the start in this story of his life - and at least that bit is based on reality!

    There's a brilliant website www.thegreatharryhoudini.com which has lots of fascinating links to aspect of his life and 'art'.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    Just watched the second part on carch-up, and even though some of it was fiction, I did enjoy it, and fine acting, with a mix if American and British actors.
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