Tory Cuts Latest...Bring Out Your Dead - Mail Report on This Shocking Development
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2870945/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Tory-cuts-latest-bring-dead.html
Such a sad case of what is going on since the evil Tory cuts were introduced. To think we are one of the richest nations on earth - if you forget, like Ed Milliband, the £90, 000.000, 000 deficit and the
£1, 500, 000, 000, 000 national debt.
So stop the evil cuts now so we don't have 10s of thousands more people suffering like Reg and his family.
Such a sad case of what is going on since the evil Tory cuts were introduced. To think we are one of the richest nations on earth - if you forget, like Ed Milliband, the £90, 000.000, 000 deficit and the
£1, 500, 000, 000, 000 national debt.
So stop the evil cuts now so we don't have 10s of thousands more people suffering like Reg and his family.
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With the greatest respect, did you even read the article? Or are you just not that good at spotting irony?
The article was suggesting that Labour was grossly exaggerating the burial crisis. Yes, burial is prohibitively expensive, (my local council have just doubled charges for a a new grave plot), but no one needs to be buried in their back yard. Basic coffin, no extra cars, do your own flowers, service at the crematorium instead of a church, and scatter the ashes or keep them in an urn... you can do it for a little over a thousand pounds.
I know it's possible, as I organised my mother in law's funeral after she died leaving no savings, no life insurance and two children under 16 to provide for. That also included a niche and a memorial tablet in the local crematorium.
Media circus / fuss over nothing / another weak excuse for people to write 'evil tories'.
Whoopee-do. How's someone who has to choose between fuel & food supposed to come up with that sort of money?
Even so ...
Paupers’ funerals making comeback as families exploit loophole to save funeral costs
Sadly dying is one of those things in life which can hit you very hard financially- like having a boiler break down, having your car written off, a fire or a flood. If you can't afford to insure against it, then at some point you are going to be faced with a big bill.
If you really were in a position where you genuinely couldn't afford to pay towards a funeral, then I suppose you'd have no choice but to let the state pay.
The state will pay for a basic burial (or more likely cremation as it's cheaper). My Mum has precided at several rememberance services where the family didn't want to (couldn't afford to!?) take charge of laying a person to rest, so the service was performed in a hospital chapel.
The point I was making is that the price of funerals (I've seen £10,000 quoted in one newspaper) is grossly exaggerated. Like other posters have said, there are no proven instances of people being forced to bury loved ones in their back yard. Most families (including my own) seem to be able to scrape the money together or pay for it out of the estate.
Love it, a thread attacking the cuts yet still manages a swipe at Milliband.
You might want to tell the Tories to start worrying about the deficit too since it's increased under them.
Somewhat to the right of that pinko liberal Cameron.
I guess it may depend where you live but around here there is no way you could have a basic funeral for anything less then £1500 .
I buried my Dad back in 2010 and that worked out at around the bare minimum. My Mum's funeral was this year and that price had risen by a few hundred.
We were one of the richest a few decades ago .Reality is household debt and national debt combined , for quite a while has meant we are technically bankrupt .We owe more than we earn .It's like passing round brown bags full of money - we're ok until everyone wants to open them at once.
My mother and father (now in their 90s) had policies taken out on them when they were babies the same was done with their parents and also when I and my two brothers were born
If no deaths had occurred the policies matured when they were 21 (18 in mine and my brothers case) the insurance companies paid you a lump sum, then you became responsible for your own insurance
I and my past family were not rich our family were pit workers but in our area everyone had insurance for burial because it was only pennies a week
My mother, Grandmother and before that her mother were the women the village came to to 'Lay Out' anyone who had died
they cleaned and dressed the 'sleeping past' laying them on a table or bed ready for the family to visit before the day of the funeral when the undertaker would bring the coffin and then go to the service and onto the cemetary
My Grand mother, Mother would have been paid a shilling and that payment never changed from the 1800s to the late 1960s when my mother last did it
I saw my first dead body at the age of 10 when I was shown what to do but by the time it became my turn to carry on the practice of the deceased laying at home had died out
I can remember getting £1,200 from my policy when I reached 18 in 1974 and I put £1,000 into buying a house which was £3,400
I insured my own children who had nice little nest eggs for when they reached 18 but they now dont think they need life insurance as they think they are to young to die so if anything happens to them its left up to their spouses or me to bury them
I don't think we're as badly off as you're making out. We might not be the richest country, but we can afford to throw billions and millions here and there when anything needs it.
http://coffincompany.co.uk/cardboard-coffin
they also have to have a couple of black markers so people can write their farewells to me on the coffin
I will then be buried in a woodland plot (cost around £800)
if people want to bring flowers they can but I have told family they must not buy flowers to put on a grave but they can plant a tree
How do you mean? You seem confused (again).
I seem to remember that each of her three eldest children and her partner chipped in £300 each, so that's £1200. This was in 2009. That covered the coffin, one car, the hearse and a crematorium service with minister attending. I did the flowers. Perhaps it is cheaper where I live - or perhaps we got a compassionate discount, after the funeral director saw that we were looking after two young children and clearly didn't have much money to burn. (ooo, just realised that's an awful pun.)
Oh I'm good at spotting irony alright.
How about you?
I notice they are all sold out. This has, naturally, peaked the interest of my inner conspiracy theorist.