BT are showing what's presumably their last women's match of the year tonight, the Continental Cup Final. I like the name of this competition because it makes it sound like a European competition, which it isn't. The football equivalent of the World Series.
It would be a good name for the women's Champions League. I presume its the tyre company sponsoring?
I'm a regular listener to Colin Murray's show and have been since the World Cup. He does an excellent job and manages to get some great guests on. I miss him on TV footy.
He speaks fondly of the great Barry Davies, his favourite commentator, and prior to Barry's MOTD cameo he spent a section of one show reminiscing about the simplicity and effectiveness of some of his best lines.
In today's show Clive came across well, as he always does in interviews. He raises some interesting points about preparation and delivery, 'knowing your audience'. Whatever you think of him as a commentator, it really is clear he does his homework, knows his remit and is one of the few 'big match' commentators left. His story about advice from Reg Gutteridge shows how seriously he monitors his job and performance, not to mention trying to avoid saying 'of course'. Hard to believe that Clive is 60 now!
I must admit I thought he was younger than that, makes him the same age as Ian Darke.
Just want to pick up something from yesterday's infamous Serbia v Albania game:
It was very noticeable that almost as soon as the trouble on the pitch started, the director immediately cut to an indistinct wide shot of the pitch and didn't cut back in until things had died down - when you'd think a director's natural instinct would be to show in detail what was going on.
I don't want to seem a conspiracy theorist, but is it plausible that UEFA could have ordered all the broadcasters under their centralised system to not clearly show anything of that nature (if it happens) so it doesn't show their Euro Qualifiers in a negative light?
Yes, UEFA has very strict rules about what can and cannot be shown. No streakers, no flares, no political banners, VIPs in the crowd have to be approved in advance to make sure they are worthy. (the Germans are particular offenders here,often showing local politicians that an international audience would never recognise.)
There is increasing likelihood that the next Premier League TV rights tender — to be unveiled around the New Year — will include an extra eighth package to show Sunday night football, as revealed by Sports Agenda.
And the slot, which already has the informal support of the top clubs —well aware that it could add at least another £600m to their coffers — could easily become the most valuable. There will be problems over transport and further diluting the Saturday afternoon programme but money always talks loudest in the Premier League.
A lot of non-sport competition on Sunday nights though, whereas Sunday at 4pm is effectively competition free.
It certainly seems like an idea that would work quite well - although adding Sunday night games presumably (if it contains some 1st picks) diminishes the quality of games available for other time slots?
A lot of non-sport competition on Sunday nights though, whereas Sunday at 4pm is effectively competition free.
It certainly seems like an idea that would work quite well - although adding Sunday night games presumably (if it contains some 1st picks) diminishes the quality of games available for other time slots?
If the intention is to open up Sunday nights for the US market, it would be a failure for 20 weeks of the year where is would go up against the NFL. 8pm - 10pm UK is 3pm - 5pm EST, slap bang in the middle of the Fox / CBS NFL windows.
Friday night, while going against College Football would be a better option.
If the intention is to open up Sunday nights for the US market...
I doubt it.
The intention is to add another package of games to exploit the Sky/BT rivalry, with Sunday night being the most likely to get broad police support. Friday and (later) Saturday night would be non-starters in a lot of towns and cities for obvious reasons.
The intention is to add another package of games to exploit the Sky/BT rivalry, with Sunday night being the most likely to get broad police support. Friday and (later) Saturday night would be non-starters in a lot of towns and cities for obvious reasons.
Might get broad police support but Sunday night games will not go down well with match-going fans (who seem to be constantly forgotten about!) - hence why I think it wont work.
Burnley v West Ham- Alan Green
Everton v Villa- Simon Brotherton
Newcastle v Leicester- Steve Bower
Soton v Sunderland- Jonathan Pearce
Arsenal v Hull- John Motson
QPR v Liverpool- Jonathan Pearce
We already have 3 slots on Sundays on a small number of occasions - ie 12.00, 2.05 and 4.15.
If they want to have 3 TV games on Sundays on a regular basis then rather than Sunday evening I would have thought it would make much more sense to fine tune the existing arrangements.
I think 12 noon is too early for TV so everything needs to move back a bit from there. When you think about it, why not just replicate the Saturday times - ie the Sunday TV games would be:
Sun 12.45
Sun 3.00
Sun 5.15 (*)
That has the advantage of:
1) Minimising disruption
2) First game doesn't start too early
3) Last game doesn't finish too late - very important for fans but also to avoid clash with Sunday night "TV entertainment" - the last game needs to end well before the X Factor etc starts.
(*) I know the Sat TV game is 5.30.
In terms of value it will depend entirely upon which slot has which picks.
We already have 3 slots on Sundays on a small number of occasions - ie 12.00, 2.05 and 4.15.
If they want to have 3 TV games on Sundays on a regular basis then rather than Sunday evening I would have thought it would make much more sense to fine tune the existing arrangements.
I think 12 noon is too early for TV so everything needs to move back a bit from there. When you think about it, why not just replicate the Saturday times - ie the Sunday TV games would be:
Sun 12.45
Sun 3.00
Sun 5.15 (*)
I have to say I like that Idea. The only thing I would tweak is 12:45 to 12:30
I would also have for the packages wise split 12:45/12:30 and MNF. The other games on a Saturday and Sunday stand for everyweek of the season. So on those 4 time slots (Sat 12:45, 17:30 & Sun 15:00, 17:15) I would have 33 games each a season = 132 + 33 games on the split package and 10 for midweek. Total games 175 games.
I would remove quoters from packages and add them up after the bidding so for e.g the thing I would say to BT/Sky is you can only show (total of a team) per season. Who ever wins the 17:15 slot on a Sunday could show all there matches then.....I.E Man Utd etc and don't have to in any other slot?
MLT you are good on Quoters and working these things out, How many do you think that will mean in total of 175 games approx?
Saturday Man City v Spurs - Peter Drury & Jim Beglin Arsenal v Hull City - Tony Jones & Davie Provan Burnley v West Ham - Joe Speight & Alan Curbishley Crystal Palace v Chelsea - Gary Taphouse & Tony Gale Everton v Aston Villa - Gary Weaver & Barry Horne Newcastle v Leicester City - David Stowell & Ray Houghton Southampton v Sunderland - Jim Proudfoot & Brian Little
Sunday QPR v Liverpool - Jon Champion & Brad Friedel Stoke City v Swansea City - Peter Drury & Kevin Kilbane
Monday West Brom v Man United - Martin Tyler & Jim Beglin
Interesting to see the co-commentator on the World Feed for QPR v Liverpool! Plus, nice to see that Jim Proudfoot has got one of the 3:00pm matches.
With Martin Tyler set to be at the Hawthorns on Monday night for World Feed duty, surely that will mean that he and Rob Hawthorne will do the Sunday matches, with Alan Parry on Sky for MNF. Hawthorne will surely be in Moscow on Tuesday, so just the matter of what game he will do, and Tyler.
Also, with Weaver set to be at Everton, could that mean the main commentator at Rotherham tonight, also due to be at Bradford tomorrow evening?
Andy Hinchcliffe is the co-commentator for Rotherham v Leeds. He has just been interviewed at the New York Stadium by David Craig, who also confirmed that Natalie Sawyer will be presenting, and her guest will be Ronnie Moore.
Burnley v West Ham- Alan Green
Everton v Villa- Simon Brotherton
Newcastle v Leicester- Steve Bower
Soton v Sunderland- Jonathan Pearce Arsenal v Hull- John Motson
QPR v Liverpool- Jonathan Pearce
Two Jonathan Pearces... there's only two Jonathan Pearces...
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It would be a good name for the women's Champions League. I presume its the tyre company sponsoring?
It is indeed, as the boss was presented to the teams beforehand. I'm not amazed by the co-commentator, by the way.
I must admit I thought he was younger than that, makes him the same age as Ian Darke.
Yes, UEFA has very strict rules about what can and cannot be shown. No streakers, no flares, no political banners, VIPs in the crowd have to be approved in advance to make sure they are worthy. (the Germans are particular offenders here,often showing local politicians that an international audience would never recognise.)
There is increasing likelihood that the next Premier League TV rights tender — to be unveiled around the New Year — will include an extra eighth package to show Sunday night football, as revealed by Sports Agenda.
And the slot, which already has the informal support of the top clubs —well aware that it could add at least another £600m to their coffers — could easily become the most valuable. There will be problems over transport and further diluting the Saturday afternoon programme but money always talks loudest in the Premier League.
It certainly seems like an idea that would work quite well - although adding Sunday night games presumably (if it contains some 1st picks) diminishes the quality of games available for other time slots?
If the intention is to open up Sunday nights for the US market, it would be a failure for 20 weeks of the year where is would go up against the NFL. 8pm - 10pm UK is 3pm - 5pm EST, slap bang in the middle of the Fox / CBS NFL windows.
Friday night, while going against College Football would be a better option.
The intention is to add another package of games to exploit the Sky/BT rivalry, with Sunday night being the most likely to get broad police support. Friday and (later) Saturday night would be non-starters in a lot of towns and cities for obvious reasons.
Might get broad police support but Sunday night games will not go down well with match-going fans (who seem to be constantly forgotten about!) - hence why I think it wont work.
Everton v Villa- Simon Brotherton
Newcastle v Leicester- Steve Bower
Soton v Sunderland- Jonathan Pearce
Arsenal v Hull- John Motson
QPR v Liverpool- Jonathan Pearce
"... could be shoehorned in to give BT more games" "Sky would retain their current share" - how does he know? It depends on what they each bid.
Stoke v Swansea- Alistair Mann
If they want to have 3 TV games on Sundays on a regular basis then rather than Sunday evening I would have thought it would make much more sense to fine tune the existing arrangements.
I think 12 noon is too early for TV so everything needs to move back a bit from there. When you think about it, why not just replicate the Saturday times - ie the Sunday TV games would be:
Sun 12.45
Sun 3.00
Sun 5.15 (*)
That has the advantage of:
1) Minimising disruption
2) First game doesn't start too early
3) Last game doesn't finish too late - very important for fans but also to avoid clash with Sunday night "TV entertainment" - the last game needs to end well before the X Factor etc starts.
(*) I know the Sat TV game is 5.30.
In terms of value it will depend entirely upon which slot has which picks.
I have to say I like that Idea. The only thing I would tweak is 12:45 to 12:30
I would also have for the packages wise split 12:45/12:30 and MNF. The other games on a Saturday and Sunday stand for everyweek of the season. So on those 4 time slots (Sat 12:45, 17:30 & Sun 15:00, 17:15) I would have 33 games each a season = 132 + 33 games on the split package and 10 for midweek. Total games 175 games.
I would remove quoters from packages and add them up after the bidding so for e.g the thing I would say to BT/Sky is you can only show (total of a team) per season. Who ever wins the 17:15 slot on a Sunday could show all there matches then.....I.E Man Utd etc and don't have to in any other slot?
MLT you are good on Quoters and working these things out, How many do you think that will mean in total of 175 games approx?
I'm not entirely clear precisely what you are asking me - but suspect you may be asking what the new individual club total maximum quotas would be.
When the number of TV games rose from 138 to 154 the total maximum quota rose from 26 to 28.
If they now go to approx 175 games then I imagine it would rise to approx 30.
Saturday
Man City v Spurs - Peter Drury & Jim Beglin
Arsenal v Hull City - Tony Jones & Davie Provan
Burnley v West Ham - Joe Speight & Alan Curbishley
Crystal Palace v Chelsea - Gary Taphouse & Tony Gale
Everton v Aston Villa - Gary Weaver & Barry Horne
Newcastle v Leicester City - David Stowell & Ray Houghton
Southampton v Sunderland - Jim Proudfoot & Brian Little
Sunday
QPR v Liverpool - Jon Champion & Brad Friedel
Stoke City v Swansea City - Peter Drury & Kevin Kilbane
Monday
West Brom v Man United - Martin Tyler & Jim Beglin
With Martin Tyler set to be at the Hawthorns on Monday night for World Feed duty, surely that will mean that he and Rob Hawthorne will do the Sunday matches, with Alan Parry on Sky for MNF. Hawthorne will surely be in Moscow on Tuesday, so just the matter of what game he will do, and Tyler.
Also, with Weaver set to be at Everton, could that mean the main commentator at Rotherham tonight, also due to be at Bradford tomorrow evening?
Two Jonathan Pearces... there's only two Jonathan Pearces...
Well, not a bad idea. But it's Gary Weaver at Rotherham.
One game is on a Saturday and the other, QPR v Liverpool is Sunday.
Comm: Peter Drury
Commentators: Kevin Keatings and Gerry Armstrong.