Courts quietly confirm that MMR causes Autism

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  • PrimalIcePrimalIce Posts: 2,897
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    Love and Peace

    Peace and Love

    Peace off.






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  • MesostimMesostim Posts: 52,864
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    Do people with autism not climb ladders, turn 21, get a degree or go to 'well known universities'?

    I fear your knowledge of Autism may be deeply flawed.

    Personally I'm just impressed his son graduated with a first from a well known University aged only 20.
  • angelafisherangelafisher Posts: 4,150
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    Breadstix wrote: »
    My son is Autistic and he's had the MMR vaccine. Does this mean this was the cause? No it bloody doesn't, cannot believe this garbage is still doing the rounds.

    I think the current generation of parents and grandparents don't realise how deadly these childhood illnesses actually are.

    So is my son and yes he had the MMR. Do I think it is the cause. Absolutely not.

    And I agree, the younger generation have not seen what these diseases can do.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    I love how this thread stayed focussed on the science.
  • RhumbatuggerRhumbatugger Posts: 85,713
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    I love how this thread stayed focussed on the science.

    Sarcastic cow

    Give me some science NOW you, cmon, you're all hard and sciency and everything.....:mad:

    :p
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    Sarcastic cow

    Give me some science NOW you, cmon, you're all hard and sciency and everything.....:mad:

    :p

    Obesity can increase the chances of developing diseases such as type 2 diabetes and heart disease.

    Happy now? :mad:

    :D

    I think you should all go upstairs and play with your pens! :eek:
  • PrimalIcePrimalIce Posts: 2,897
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    I think you should all go upstairs and play with your pens! :eek:

    Oh... pens.
  • RhumbatuggerRhumbatugger Posts: 85,713
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    Obesity can increase the chances of developing diseases such as type 2 diabetes and heart disease.

    Happy now? :mad:

    :D

    I think you should all go upstairs and play with your pens! :eek:


    I've always been massively crap with order:o
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    PrimalIce wrote: »
    Oh... pens.

    Yes the exclamation mark deceives the eye a little doesn't it. :D
  • trevvytrev21trevvytrev21 Posts: 16,973
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    MAW wrote: »
    This may be true, I apologise for using a poor example. My son, for the record, is not autistic, and does now eat his greens.:) I merely take slight exception to nit picking for the sake of scoring a cheap point.

    "Scoring a cheap point" suggests nothing was untoward about the initial post. Tbh, I did squirm a bit at the suggestion that getting a degree etc would be beyond the remit of someone with autism.

    I had the MMR, and I'm not autistic. There does seem to be some - perhaps indirect - link, though.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    Oh please now. The anecdote was hardly perfidious or seeking to offend.
  • epicurianepicurian Posts: 19,291
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    Ovalteenie wrote: »
    I'm keeping an open mind. All we can say is there is no evidence for a link at the present time & it may be unlikely. But there are historical cases of people being villified for going against the prevailing wisdom only to be vindicated eventually. Most recently, remember how we were reassured by the government that BSE definitely could not transmit to humans? Dissenting scientists such as Professor Lacey of Leeds university were dismissed as crackpot scaremongers at the time.

    The mistake was the Lancet publishing a fraudulent research paper lacking any statistically meaningful results, and the gutter press running with it. Wakefield wasn't just manipulating data, he was making it up, and with a huge conflict of interest to boot. His vilification is entirely justified.

    Fifteen years and several worldwide studies later, the damage is still being undone.
  • RhumbatuggerRhumbatugger Posts: 85,713
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    epicurian wrote: »
    The mistake was the Lancet publishing a fraudulent research paper lacking any statistically meaningful results, and the gutter press running with it. Wakefield wasn't just manipulating data, he was making it up, and with a huge conflict of interest to boot. His vilification is entirely justified.

    Fifteen years and several worldwide studies later, the damage is still being undone.

    Totally agree - a pile of BAD SCIENCE


    And damaging.
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