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What will Scotland do now following the PM speech?
The PM want the Uk to leave the Single Market but what does Nicola Sturgeon and Scotland do now if The whole of the UK leaves the EU and everything else to do the the EU once we leave
Does the First minister called for another Referendum once the PM triggers A50, does the FM wait until we leave the EU or does Scotland try there own thing the EU and still be in the Single Market
If Scotland does go fora referundum on Independence they can't go on the same things they did last time in the Last refereundum they would have to come up with something Different from last time?
If Scotland do go for another Referdundum and loses again where does Scotland go from there
Does Nicola Sturgeon know if Scotland goes and wins Independence and try join the EU they also must join the Eurozone too or will she try and get out of joining the Euro and still be in the EU with certain Conditions
Does the First minister called for another Referendum once the PM triggers A50, does the FM wait until we leave the EU or does Scotland try there own thing the EU and still be in the Single Market
If Scotland does go fora referundum on Independence they can't go on the same things they did last time in the Last refereundum they would have to come up with something Different from last time?
If Scotland do go for another Referdundum and loses again where does Scotland go from there
Does Nicola Sturgeon know if Scotland goes and wins Independence and try join the EU they also must join the Eurozone too or will she try and get out of joining the Euro and still be in the EU with certain Conditions
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The Scottish people will just get on with their lives as they always do
DS remainers will be split between supporting Scottish independence for them to escape the so called evil Brexit Britain while the others will try to use Scotland as reasoning to cancel brexit despite that the average Brit doesn't care if any region from NI to Yorkshire & Humber left
DS Brexiters will post anti Scottish crap, petition to kick Scotland out of Britain and rebuild Hadrian's wall Berlin style to prevent millions of Scots coming to London/South East England to take their jobs that were already taken by EU migrants
The non DS visiting English will just get on with their lives regardless of Scotland/SNP/DS posts/whatever
Leave the UK.
The question is whether she goes for independence now before many people have really grasped the consequences of leaving the single market. Or wait for them to find out.
Personally I think the latter is more sensible. Many people don't understand hypothetical economics. As soon as their purse/jobs are hit they'll run for the exit.
Yes that has been the general impression. Out of all the leaders in the UK, the FM has been the one caught staring at the headlights.....Oh no wait a minute...NURSE...
What planet are you Brexiters on? She was the only one with a plan following the vote for self-immolation by England and Wales.
The referendum is coming. Congratulations. You took back control and ended the UK.
I voted to remain.
IndyRef2 would in no doubt be won, plus add in with the universal credit cuts, and fiscal framework reductions the unionist argument for staying is virtually nil.
Aside from the hordes of English people fleeing to Scotland
Good for you.
Pity the majority Brexit vote went ahead despite the widely publicised view on what the Scottish Government's position was - another referendum.
Like I said earlier, Brexiters have only themselves to blame for the inevitable end of the union. What a betrayal for the Scottish unionists...
Do you think they care?
incorrect
70% of scotland's economy is linked to the UK, only 15% to the rest of the EU
so why would we want to leave the UK and be the wrong side of a trade deal that affects 70% of our economy just to try and protect 15% of it ?
Can you quote the source for these figures.
Like to do a bit of research.
Cheers
its easy enough to google it and has been discussed at length on this forum before
Should be easy enough for you to provide a link then
i'm sick fed up tbh of going around in circles with the same old arguments that have been discussed umpteen times previously
i'm confident those figures are correct, if you dont believe me then no skin of my nose
prove me wrong
Ah now come on that is not how it works. You provided a stat. I ask for a source. It is not for me to prove you wrong.
Back up your posts!!
Allow me to assist:-
https://fullfact.org/economy/does-scotland-export-twice-much-england-it-does-rest-world/
(Look at the pie chart in that piece)
or this from today:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/17/snp-brexit-minister-suggests-eu-important-uk-scottish-firms/amp/
(Relevant figures underlined)
Exports to the rest of the UK just over 4 times the value of exports to the rest of the EU.
Given that there are also exports to non EU countries the % quoted by the earlier poster are broadly accurate.
Clicked on the first link.. This is what it says at the end..
"Sadly, given drawbacks these figures aren't on the firmest possible ground. It's especially worth bearing in mind that oil and gas are omitted from the survey. We can't know the extent to which this would change the balance of exports, but we could expect it to be significant."
http://oilandgasuk.co.uk/economic-contribution.cfm
Oil and gas production has increased since then.
I heard on BBC Scotland radio yesterday that 14 new oil fields were coming on-stream this year.
Except Scotland would be bust without its subsidy from England, there would be no one to pay its benefits bills, or nice to have add ons financed by England. The oil price hasn't fully recovered. it would be in limbo, while it tried to get back in , and probably blackballed by the Spanish. And, if it did ever rejoin the EU, it would have to start paying full fees to the Eu- with no opt outs, or rebates. The irish would ahve snapped up any brain and bank drain from London, well before the Scots rejoined the EU. It would also have to use the Euro - which would mean converting Scottish assets and savings into Euros, at the current low rates. It would also have a lot of redundant ship workers, and face tariffs on most of its trade, going to England and Wales.
Agrees
LOL zarkov wasn't expecting that.
It is the jump to conclusions attitude ;-)
Thank you for that sensible post.
More people in Scotland voted to remain in the UK than voted to remain in the EU.
Nicola should shut up and put her vote where her mouth is.
Here are some figures from the Scottish gov....
http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Economy/Exports/ESSPublication
"The total nominal value of Scotland’s International Exports (excluding Oil and Gas) decreased in the last year, falling by £920 million (3.2%) from £28.4 billion in 2013 to £27.5 billion in 2014."
Why is oil and gas excluded?
http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Business-Industry/Energy/Facts
"The North Sea still produces 1.5 million boe a day and Oil & Gas UK estimates that production could reach 2 million boe a day by 2017."
Another waste of time and money from the Scottish parliament. The EU has already told Nicola that Scotland can't remain in the single market if the UK leaves the single market. This is easy to follow but as usual with our first minister she can only hear what she wants to hear. If she wants to be in the single market call indy 2 and if successful apply to join the EU. This is her only route to the single market.