Were all of Foster's lines redubbed? Her character seemed rather pointless to me, why didn't she want Frey to save her? Didn't understand that all, one of many plot holes.
Were all of Foster's lines redubbed? Her character seemed rather pointless to me, why didn't she want Frey to save her? Didn't understand that all, one of many plot holes.
It was a cop out, thats what I thought anyway, rather than explain anything at all about this characters end they just let her die in the most pointless way. for someone that was meant to appear so survival orientated, ruthless, fearsome her end was pretty pathetic. there was me thinking she was instrumental in the story line, but all that happened was she allowed herself to be killed by the comic relief bad guy. not very smart to start winding up a total psycho is it without any weapons or bodyguards at hand, was she the most stupid and pointless villain ever? just another plot hole really, along with why wasnt any of that technology on earth? it seemed pretty easy to get to it in space, it probably would have been harder to get to if it was on top of a mountain somewhere?
I've never seen Jodie Foster in a bad film, or Matt Damon come to think of it.
I'm half wondering how this film will tackle the subject matter of overpopulation. It looks very realistic in terms of the actual future we'd be faced with.
Emotionally this film didn't grab me and the politics of Elysium weren't explored enough.
Although having said that
The concept and the direction is good. The camera work gave the film it's sense of mass ghettoization. The supporting cast gave good performances. The relatively short film time (109m) meant stock actors were used to communicate ideas. William Fichtner who played John Carlyle, has a face that screams corporatism. His character needs no further introduction.
Sandro and Spider (played by Jose Pablo Cantillo and Wagner Moura) add a visceral depth that was lacking when they or Sharlto Copley (Kruger) weren't on screen.
The death of the two protagonists (Delacourt and Max) represented the same thing from different perspectives.
Max was fascinated with an ideal that was bigger than him. So big, it was worth dying for.
Delacourt in stopping Frey from assisting her, was communicating her own belief system. Delacourt had set upon a course of action, with known consequences for failure. Delacourt believed mankind had created the problems it now faced, yet were unwilling to live with the consequences. Her final act showed us, it was beneath her dignity to escape her fate and be consigned (in her own mind) to becoming 'one of them'.
I had high hopes but also thought it was pretty bad. It just seemed like a mess of sequences to me, totally chaotic. The shaky cam also made most of it pretty irritating, I don’t mind it in some cases but the shaky cam was present throughout, you don’t need that effect if some guy is walking down a corridor. The only thing I liked was Matt Damon, who as always was solid but the others were rubbish IMO. The bad guy was more comic relief and made it a farce. Foster was doing some weird Margret Thatcher impersonation and her story was anti climatic to say the least. In fact the whole story was a big boring cliché and didnt make much sense (in the way it was a stupid idea). The setting was ok but it was all just done so badly IMO. big let down this one.
Watched Elysium last night and pretty much agree with your summary, not nearly as enjoyable as District 9 was for me - 6/10
I was disappointed with this film, the concept is really quite interesting but the execution only so-so. I felt the whole idea behind Elysium was badly under developed and you never really get to know any of the people that lived there on any level other than Foster's stereotypical "evil bitch" and the weak arse president. Who were these people? What were they thinking? What was there perspective on the people on earth? These kind of ideas work better if you can see them from both sides.
The best thing about the film was probably the character of Kruger, who made for an engaging secondary villain.
I thought this film had a good premiss, but contained too much violence & too much technical stuff; the noise that Max & Kruger made whilst fighting as their various bits of metal crashed against each other annoyed me.
Even accepting that it's a dumb "popcorn flick" rather than the same kind of film as District 9, I still think it was awful.
Foster was terrible, Damon was nothing special, and although the premise was interesting it was very badly executed and the plot was a badly thought out mess. I don't expect this kind of film to be deep and meaningful, but it would still be nice to have a plot that doesn't fall apart at the slightest glance.
District was way better, probably an 8 from me, Elysium gets a 6.
They are obviously set in the same universe, very similar feels, but something wasnt quite there with Elysium.
Those silly robot suits they wore seemed like they were dreamed up by an advertising man saying " Matt damon wearing robot gear, i can sell that", they could have been left out easily.
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yeah there nothing wrong with a bit of channeling but in this case it just didnt work. her character was awful.
I'm half wondering how this film will tackle the subject matter of overpopulation. It looks very realistic in terms of the actual future we'd be faced with.
Hopefully I'll see this tomorrow.
The gore seemed unnecessarily excessive to me. In other respects it didn't come across as a very grown-up film so I don't see why they needed it.
Although having said that
The concept and the direction is good. The camera work gave the film it's sense of mass ghettoization. The supporting cast gave good performances. The relatively short film time (109m) meant stock actors were used to communicate ideas. William Fichtner who played John Carlyle, has a face that screams corporatism. His character needs no further introduction.
Sandro and Spider (played by Jose Pablo Cantillo and Wagner Moura) add a visceral depth that was lacking when they or Sharlto Copley (Kruger) weren't on screen.
Max was fascinated with an ideal that was bigger than him. So big, it was worth dying for.
Delacourt in stopping Frey from assisting her, was communicating her own belief system. Delacourt had set upon a course of action, with known consequences for failure. Delacourt believed mankind had created the problems it now faced, yet were unwilling to live with the consequences. Her final act showed us, it was beneath her dignity to escape her fate and be consigned (in her own mind) to becoming 'one of them'.
Watched Elysium last night and pretty much agree with your summary, not nearly as enjoyable as District 9 was for me - 6/10
The best thing about the film was probably the character of Kruger, who made for an engaging secondary villain.
5/10
Me too, was she trying to sound British?
Such a good film.
Even accepting that it's a dumb "popcorn flick" rather than the same kind of film as District 9, I still think it was awful.
Foster was terrible, Damon was nothing special, and although the premise was interesting it was very badly executed and the plot was a badly thought out mess. I don't expect this kind of film to be deep and meaningful, but it would still be nice to have a plot that doesn't fall apart at the slightest glance.
All's I can say is that it's just as well that Blomkamp didn't get to shoot the Halo movie.
Christ:o, yo mad bro?;-)
District was way better, probably an 8 from me, Elysium gets a 6.
They are obviously set in the same universe, very similar feels, but something wasnt quite there with Elysium.
Those silly robot suits they wore seemed like they were dreamed up by an advertising man saying " Matt damon wearing robot gear, i can sell that", they could have been left out easily.